Sunday, December 29, 2013

David Hulme Cult Fires and Disfellowships More Ministers



The rapid implosion of David Hulme's secretive splinter group readily becoming apparent.  James Malm has several interesting facts posted today.

Steve Andrews had expressed concerns to David for some time, and had been taken off all ministerial duties for this past year [2013] because of his airing of his concerns to David Hulme;  he has now been disfellowshipped for writing a letter to David [in November 2013] expressing his concerns, and now an effort is being made to circulate that letter from Steve to David.

As a result of this firing and disfellowshipment;  Peter Nathan, Cliff Veal (UK/Germany) and Bob Rodzaj (Phoenix, New Mexico), have also been fired or resigned; and it is widely expected that Brian Orchard (N. Cal) will be next.  Brian Orchard and David Hulme were brothers in law from David 1st marriage until his wife died.

I am informed that these men and the other unnamed persons in trouble, seem to have almost 100% backing from their congregations.

There are several other ministers who have recently resigned for whom I do not have names; and several more elders are in trouble as well

Here is the chain of events:
 * A year ago David removed Steve from all ministerial duties because Steve questioned some of David’s policies.
* A couple of weeks ago Steve gave David the six page letter of concern, and David immediately disfellowshipped him. The letter was also sent to the regional pastors.
* Peter Nathan wrote a letter of support and was immediately removed from all ministerial duties.
* Cliff Veil, the minister in UK/Germany was fired.
* Bob Radzaj resigned
* Some local elders stopped attending and or resigned
* Brian Orchard and another minister met with David this week [week of Dec 22nd] and expressed their concerns and issues.
David agreed he would address them, so they have not resigned yet.  How David will address the issues remains to be seen.
These are all well respected regional pastors.

Bob Thiel Resents Being Called A False Prophet By The Living Church of God



Poor Bob.  No matter how hard he tries, he is constantly being labeled a false prophet and teacher.  Even though he claims to be the worlds foremost authority on prophecy, the Mayan's and the Catholic Church, he still cannot shake the stinging rebukes he constantly receives from Living Church of God and others. Between his pathetic video sermons to his badly researched booklets, the troubles keep piling up for the poor guy.

The world's foremost naturopath tries to invoke the words of Herbert Armstrong to justify his world encircling ministry as legitimate and that he is NOT a false prophet.

12/24/13 a.m. After considering how many improper attacks have been posted online against me by various ones (including a couple more by an LCG minister who continues to demonstrate that LCG is not what it claims to be--hopefully those there will stop their improper attacks), I came across something that the late Herbert Armstrong wrote:
PERSECUTORS HAVE CALLED me a "false prophet." Now how would you KNOW whether the accusation IS true- or false?...
Actually, it probably is not very important to you to know whether my persecutors are right or wrong, when they call me dirty names, hurl epithets, resort to innuendo, impute sinister motives, strive to discredit, attempt character assassination. What is important to YOU is whether what you read in The PLAIN TRUTH really is the truth - whether what you hear over The WORLD TOMORROW broadcast is true- not whether I , as an individual, am true or false.
I think our readers know by now that we always say: " DON' T believe what we say because you believe in us." We say " Listen with open mind, without prejudice, then CHECK UP in your own Bible-prove whether it is true, and BELIEVE what you find proved!" I don't seek to induce people to believe in ME- I seek to lead them to believe in JESUS CHRIST! (Armstrong HW. Personal from the Editor. Plain Truth, May 1966, pp. 2)
We in Continuing Church of God (CCOG) urge people to believe the truth and check it out. We have information on numerous websites and two YouTube channels. Satan is the accuser of the brethren, and sadly many in the COGs these days prefer to rely on improper accusations and will not truly check us out to see if what we are teaching is true (including our responses to accusations).

David Hulme Personality Cult Has More Resignations



More resignations in David Hulme's Church of God an International Community.  Peter Nathan and Steve Andrews resign