Friday, September 19, 2014

Public Is Getting Sick of Restored Church of God's Web Advertising


There have been lots of discussions on various FB pages and elsewhere about the incessant advertising of Dave Pack's cult popping up on web sites as advertising.  It is starting to create a backlash against David C Pack's cult.

As a side note....every time you click on one of Davey Pack's ads he has to pay $2.00+ per click.  I say we click on them every chance we get and cost him as much money as possible!

Benjamin Dickmann Shares His Experince in the Cult of Restored Church of God




Part 2

Restored Church of God Recruiting Methods

Tuesday, September 16, 2014

Bob Thiel Now Claiming That Dibar Apartian Thought He (Thiel) Would Eventually Be Pastor General of the Living Church of God

Bitter Bob

If you thought things couldn't bet any crazier in Theildom, think again.  Thiel is making a claim that Dibar Apartian wanted him to whip the LCG headquarters into shape.  Thiel was supposed to weed out false doctrine and teachings in order to bring the truth back to LCG.

Thiel even goes as far to claim Apartian thought Thiel should be leading the Living Church of God!

This just adds another dimension to Thiel's illegitimate claim that he is THE anointed heir of the message of "god."  It just adds more fuel to the intense hatred he has for Rod Meredith.  Mededith's rejection of Thiel has been a devastating blow to Thiel's ego and self worth.  He has never been able to recover from that rejection.

Yet, prior to the GCG split, Dibar Apartian expressed his opinion about various actions and decisions that the then presiding evangelist Roderick C. Meredith made that he did not care for.  Dibar Apartian personally told me in late 1998, that he told Dr. Meredith if he ever did something like this again that he would not follow him into another organization.  This clarified, for me at least, some of his views of Dr. Meredith.

Dibar Apartian was disappointed with LCG's Tomorrow's World magazine.  He stated it lacked interest, depth, and relevance.  In 2007 and 2008, he pushed Dr. Meredith to agree to have articles in it from me as he told me that my articles were what LCG needed.  Dr. Meredith agreed at the time.  I agreed, but under the proviso that LCG would first fix errors in its booklet on church history as I did not want to have LCG publish more materials that contradicted others.  Although LCG leaders agreed to do that and told me on numerous times that they were working on it, it never happened as various ones promised.  The reality is that one of the top people did not want the magazine changed. He also prevented the booklet changes from being adopted as a reason to not have me submit articles.

Despite this, Dibar Apartian frequently used to urge me to try to get the other leaders in LCG to correct various historical, doctrinal, prophetic, and literature errors.  Although I tried to get him to do more of that himself, he always instructed me to not only do that, but to remind other leaders in Charlotte to keep their promises to fix errors, literature, etc. Which I did. He did what he did differently to try to affect change.

Dibar Apartian indicated to me, multiple times, over the years that he wanted me to lead needed changes in Charlotte and I tried for years.

In 2008, he told me that I may be "the one," meaning the one to lead the final Philadelphia work, and he confirmed that in 2009 and 2010.

Thiel then adds this odd statement:

In one of our last conversations, he concluded with the words, "I love you." I was emotionally touched.

Church of God News 9/16/14

Dibar Apartian: HWA Was Against Meredith Being A Church Leader And That LCG Is NOT A Godly Organization





Things have never been rosy in the Living Church of God headquarters in Charlotte, North Carolina.  Power struggles and dissension have always plagued the organization since Meredith split off from two previous COG's..

Bob Thiel, leader of the greatest COG to ever to exist in human history, has an entry up today that he claims was sent to him by a former LCG employee in Charlotte.

Of course this sets Thiel into orgasmic fits of ecstasy that he can discredit Meredith and crew further.  The more he can smear Meredith the more he thinks people will flock to his personalty cult.  Except they aren't......Thiel's visions of grandeur are just as stupid as Dave Pack's.

I just wanted to write you about Mr. Apartian and what he REALLY felt about LCG and its leaders.

I know that Dibar Apartian expressed serious concern for the LCG brethren, as he made comments about the "true colors" of LCG's upper leadership would come out after his death-which is exactly what happened.

Mr. Apartian told several LCG members, whom he trusted, that LCG was no longer God's true Church, and was no longer even a Godly church.

Mr. Apartian was against the "falling away" doctrine, just as John Ogwyn was against it also.

Mr. Apartian also knew that Herbert W. Armstrong was vehemently against Rod Meredith being the human leader of the church. Mr. Apartian always felt uneasy about following Rod Meredith, since he knew HWA's feelings about that.

Mr. Apartian was also having private meetings, near the end of his life, with ministers of different Church of God groups-one of those ministers, whom Mr. Apartian met with, told me about their meetings in person. Those private meetings were about Mr. Apartian leaving LCG.

However, due to his rapidly failing health and a few other reasons, he stayed with LCG.

He did make it very clear though, that LCG was heading the wrong direction, in terms of doctrine and other major decisions as well.

Mr. Apartian was also very upset about Rod Meredith's lack of compassion and concern for him, while he was near his death.

Rod Meredith had heard about some of Mr. Apartian's revealing comments about LCG, and Meredith was not happy.

Therefore, Rod Meredith did not visit much with Mr. Apartian towards the end, and Meredith even discouraged other LCG members from visiting with Mr. Apartian-worried that more negative facts about LCG would "get out."

I hope this info is helpful-God's people need to know the truth about LCG and about Rod Meredith