Gerald Flurry Claims Fire Will Come From His Mouth To Kill His Enemies

Just when you think all the silliness of the Philadelphia Church of God has been used up, along comes Gerald Flurry claiming he is one of the Two Witless Witnesses.  Apparently lil'Stevie is the second one.  As the Two Witless Witnesses they will have the power to devour their enemies with fire from their mouths as the prattle around Jerusalem proclaiming Herb's Word.

According to Flurry it is only he and his church that are doing a work because not one single other Church of God has a lamp that's burning brightly in this wicked dark and sinful world.  This must really frost Dave Pack who thinks he has the only lamp burning.  All this in turn ticks of UCG and COGWA who think they are God's gift to humanity.

They have all become such useless windbags saying such incredibly ludicrous things that nothing they say any more can be regarded as "truth" - not that it ever was.

These two men are to prophesy for 1,260 days. That means they start prophesying at the very beginning of the Great Tribulation and continue until the end. The point is, they are ready to prophesy for God when the Tribulation starts. These two men have great power. “And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will” (verses 5-6). Would a Laodicean leader have the faith for God to use him so forcefully? If he didn’t have the faith to do God’s warning Work, could he have the faith to demonstrate such power? Where in the Bible can you find God using a “blind” Laodicean-type leader who is about to be spewed out of His mouth to do such a job? (Revelation 3:14-19).

True Philadelphians did God’s Work in both the Philadelphian and Laodicean eras. Even though this is now the Laodicean era, God’s Philadelphia Church still does God’s Work. Only they are willing to “rise and measure the temple of God” (Revelation 11:1), or do God’s Work. So the godly representatives from both eras are Philadelphians. The two witnesses are called two lamps (“candlesticks” is not a good translation). And we know these lamps (two witnesses) are both burning at the beginning of the Tribulation. So it is really the lamps on which God is focusing. The Laodiceans do not have a lamp—so how can a Laodicean be one of God’s witnesses or lamps? These two lamps or witnesses could only come from the Philadelphia Church, where God’s lamp is located!  Who Are The Two Witnesses

LCG Members Ask: Since we are the only TRUE church, how is it that Flurry can afford A new college in England?

With Gerald Flurry's recent announcement that the Philadelphia Church of God had bought a property in England to start a college, many COG members are wondering why and how.  This seems to particularly gall some of the LCG members.  They wonder why he can do such a thing when he is NOT the true church and is preaching false doctrines.  Only the Living Church of God has the truth but cannot afford to do such a thing.

What is significant of note is that "Papa Bear" seems to really believe deep down that Flurry is a minister of truth.  That has been the problem of the splinter personalty cults of Armstrongism for decades.  None of them have the guts to speak out and condemn other COG's for being heretical.  They all think they are "brothers" on a similar journey and will eventually end up in the same place.  Petra certainly is going to be one contentious place to be when all of these groups converge thinking they were going to be the only ones there.

From the LCG Facebook page.  Names have been changed to protect the guilty

Papa Bear: Where is PCG getting $7 million from to purchase such property? Any property for that matter? LCG could do this too, but that money is better used elsewhere - like actually doing a worldwide proclamation of the true Gospel while we have the time and opportunity to do so. https://www.pcog.org/article/884/pcg-gains-new-campus-in-britain

Cowboy: A project to vanity?

November 14 at 11:12am · Like · 4

Love Nugget: Nice Vacation Get A Way for the higher ups.

November 14 at 11:30am · Like · 3

Smoochie Poo: good for them, beautiful property

November 14 at 5:42pm · Like

Ms. Sugar Babe: They are trying to duplicate everything that Mr. Armstrong did.

November 14 at 6:31pm · Like · 1

Captain Canoodle: Not a word of Thanks. Gods not even a passing thought.

November 14 at 6:46pm · Like

Precious Princess: Preach the Gosple, not build a compound.

November 14 at 7:15pm · Like

Tuff Stuff: WCG had plenty of property back in the day.

November 15 at 4:40pm · Like

Love Nugget: Yes Tuff Stuff, they did and look who has it now and it has also gone the way of all material things. Back to rubble. The new owners of the property tore down the administration halls so they can build condos.

November 15 at 5:24pm · Like

Cowboy: PCG is not doing the Work - is not carrying out the seven fold mission!

November 15 at 5:27pm · Like · 1

Tuff Stuff: I don't know if there is one true church anymore, I was a WCG member for several years. I do read "The Trumpet" and I haven't found anything in it that seems wrong.

November 15 at 8:19pm · Like

Love Nugget: Tuff Stuff, like Cowboy mentioned...The "Work" seek God to find out who is actually doing The Work....also known as "the Ezekiel warning" that the Church, Jesus Christ raised up and gave the commission to do until the end. There is one out there but one must be seeking God to find out where it is.

November 15 at 11:12pm · Like

Ms. Sugar Babe: Tuff Stuff Their literature is riddled with error. For example: Mr. Flurry claims the prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:15 is him. That scripture refers to Christ, not to any human being. If you read their booklets you will find a ton of error. On the subject of one true church, there is a sermon by Mr. Lambert Greer--"The Body of Christ" that addresses the subject. No one claims that there aren't true Christians in more than one group. But is God directly working through every group? Read Ephesians 4. Things today are no different than they were when HWA was alive. Back then we understood that there was one body. The parts of a body work together, not at cross purposes. I hope you will find Mr. Greer's sermon and listen to it. If you can't find it on the website, I'm sure your minister has a copy.

November 15 at 11:27pm · Like

Ms. Sugar Babe: With regard to buildings--much of the property acquired by HWA was either given to the church (by the Hammer family) or bought for very little money. When the auditorium was built, the church was a lot bigger than it is today. This is a different time. None of the COG's have the numbers or the money to do what Mr. Armstrong did. Time is short. The work of preaching the gospel and the Ezekiel warning take priority now. We've learned to do things in a more economical manner. Technology has made some of that possible. Mr. Armstrong built a foundation that we are building on now.

November 15 at 11:37pm · Like

Living Church of God Appoints Rod McNair and Bob League to Begin Pogrom Against Dissident Ministers and Members

In my last post I had an article about a sermonette from Rod McNair reinforcing the rules of disfellowshiment that LCG uses against members and ministers.  That post stirred up a strong reaction form many LCG members who lashed out that it was all a lie because LCG is the most unified COG in this dispensation. It is filled with more brotherly love than any other COG out there because it has true doctrine and government.

That facade is now crashing down around them.  Various Elders and ministers of the LCG are under the microscope of Rod McNair and Bob League.

James Malm is reporting:

Rod Meredith has now appointed an inquisition to cleanse LCG of any who are not in full agreement with everything he says.   “I’ve asked Mr McNair and Mr League – they’ve been working as a team to get all the information on many of these things – and I’m working with them and other leaders … We’re trying to keep God’s church clean.”  That is, they are now purging LCG, due to the extensive divisions in that organization, which until now Meredith has lied about.

Malm is correct in the fact that Meredith, McNair and others have deliberately lied to members as they tried to present the facade of extreme unity.  Any thinking person could have seen through that facade if they actually used their brains instead of swallowing every word from Charlotte as the gospel truth.  Countless articles, letters, sermons, sermonnettes and messages of encouragement in the LCG News have repeatedly in the last year made comments about the importance of keeping unity in the church.

Malm continues:

Rod Meredith then lies in an effort to defame those who do not follow him as their idol.  Roderick Meredith says, “We found that some of these people we’ve had to put out (of the church) … they often lie and lie, and they’ll twist and turn, and turn things around …”  which is exactly what Rod does.

For some time there have been more than a dozen elders and a large number of brethren who have been very unhappy with changes in LCG teachings and with the heavy handed obey Rod or else, exalting Rod Meredith above the Word of God.  It appears that Rod now knows who they are or he would not have announced the League/McNair team.  It is easiest to gather such information in secret before announcing what is being done.

How swift with be the naysayers hopping on here denying that there is still no problem in the LCG with unity?

Meredith and others in the Living Church of God have a rich history of causing division and destroying unity.  He went on numerous witch hunts while over Church Administration in Pasadena before he was exiled to Hawaii for insubordination. He caused another division when he turned his back on the Worldwide Church of God and started the apostate Global Church of God.  Then after Raymond and Eve McNair came crawling to him on their knees with trembling lips begging his forgiveness he then took Global Church of God's money and started the Living Church of God.  McNair and those few who remained in Global never recovered financially from Meredith's despicable act.

Hundreds and hundreds of destroyed lives have been left in Meredith's wake over the decades.  When will these people ever wake up?

Rod McNair Attempts to Quell Dissension by Telling Members the Rules of Engagement for Disfellowshipment

For months now various LCG members and others are reporting how disunified the Living Church of God currently is.  Turmoils seems to boil in Charlotte and elsewhere.  As the LCG moves closer to the day that Rod Meredith dies, it is having to deal with dissension emerging from the ministerial ranks and the members.  Many fear that Meredith's son will be pointed as successor.

Right before the Feast of Tabernacles 2014, Rod McNair preached a sermonette where he discusses those who cause division and how the church is to deal with them.  He lists four categories of those who disagree with the church.  This information is so serious that the LCG sent this sermonette out on tape and COMMANDED all the church areas play it along with a sermon by Rod Meredith..

He starts out though reinforcing the rule that the ministers have been placed OVER the members.  They are there to ensure an atmosphere of unity.  He tells LCG members that the ministry is also there to help stop them from being deceived.  I had to laugh at that one since most of the ministry of the LCG is deceiving the members day in and day out with aberrant doctrines and other silly rules.

Authority of the ministry has a great responsibility and that includes disassociating people from fellowship....but members should always remember it is done in love......

Then he says, 'When a flyswatter will do - don't bring a sledge hammer."  This too is laughable considering the heavy handedness of Meredith and others that have disfellowshipping hundreds and hundreds of people over the decades.  Very few times was it done in "love."  Most of the time is was for revenge.  Meredith was particularly good at the revenge part in the late 70's when GTA got kicked out.  Meredith went on a scorched earth policy kicking out all kinds of people who had the slightest association with GTA.  I saw the letters that he sent to those people.  They were shocked at the vehement attitude he exhibited.

The categories the LCG uses to disassociate people are:

• Those who drop out and leave, whether it be to another COG or just stop attending.  McNair claims, "...we do not force people to stay in the church."    He claims that if LCG members happen to meet these people in the store they are not to hide from them but are to look at them as they do anyone else in the world.    This is all laughable again since the LCG and most other COG preach insistently that those who leave the church have the holy spirit taken from them.  So when an LCG member sees these people in the store they immediately think what sorry creatures they are for turning their backs on God.  The commendation is ingrained.

• Those who are suspended.  If a person has done wrong or continues to do wrong they are suspended for period of time.  It usually is for a couple of months so a person feels apart from the body.  The person is not announced from the pulpit and members are not told to stay away from the person.  The individual is told to keep away from members.  Those close to the person may be told to not associate with them for a period of times though. 

• Those disfellowshipped.  They are not to return because of issues that can harm the church.  he reason is not announced from the pulpit.  Only close associates will be told to stay away from them.  LCG members are not to hide from them if they see them in the store.  Members are not to meet socially with them or to take part in any social media they are on.  This comment stands out above every thing else McNair presents.  Social media has wreaked havoc on the Churches of God over the last several decades.  Many like Pack, Cox and Flurry see social media as dangerous and tell members to not read the Internet or participate in Facebook groups and other social media so that they be not corrupted.  Social media right now is keeping the dissension in the LCG alive and flourishing.

• Marked members.  Those who cause deliberate division and who go against church doctrine or teachings.  These people are sicked out and publicly marked in order to protect the church.  Personal details are not supposed to be mentioned because "love covers a multitude of sin."  Excuse me while I recover from laughing.  There have been very few times this has ever been done on "love" towards the individual or families.  It is almost always a weapon used to punish an individual or a family.  It is deliberately done to embarrass them and to be a warning to other church members that they too can share the same fate.  It has always been used in the Church of God as a tool of fear and intimidation.

Tough times are ahead for the Living Church of God as it tries to deal with the grumbling ministers and members.  The more they kick out the less money will be coming in.  That seems to be the most important factor in constantly talking about unity in the church.  As much as they desire it, they will never have unity.

You can listen to Rod McNair's COMMANDED sermonette here:  

The other commanded sermon is by Rod Meredith and was on GOVERNMENT.  It can be listened to here.

A sermonette on the authority ministers have in kicking people out and then a  sermon by Meredith on proper government.  Fear is definitely in the air in Charlotte as these two recordings are being used as a weapon of intimidation and fear.  Tough times are ahead for the LCG members.

Another Church of God Pedophile Sentenced To Prison For Child Molestation

Stephen Gough appears in the Waitakere Distrct Court. Photo / Jason Oxenham

A former woodwork teacher repeatedly molested children 
aged between three and 16 
while reading passages from the bible 
and posing as a churchgoer.

Another Church of God member has been sent to prison for child molestation.  This time it was a man in New Zealand.  He was a former member of the Worldwide Church of God in Auckland and has recently been the spokesman for Fred Coulter's Christian Biblical Church of God.

Earlier today I received several emails concerning this case.  I checked on Gavin's site and he also had the story up.

The London Daily News carried this story:  He Used Children As Sexual Toys

The New Zealand Herald has this: Teacher Molested Children While Reading From Bible

Christian Today:  Teacher Scentenced To Prison For Molesting Chidlren While Reading The Bible

I am on a Facebook page that one of his children is on and this person has spoken how he molested his own children.  They described recently how they had been testifying in court to lock the bastard away.

Amazingly this guy only got three and half years in prison, though the authorizes are expecting more people to come forward and will review the case against him to add more time.

The London Daily News says:

A former woodwork teacher repeatedly molested children aged between three and 16 while reading passages from the bible and posing as a churchgoer.

79-year-old Stephen Gough admitted to nine acts of child sex abuse charges on Wednesday at Waitakere District Court in New Zealand.

He received three-and-a-half years behind bars for his disturbing crimes.

The judge said that Mr Gough carefully orchestrated his acts and used the children as 'sexual toys'. 

While the story does not say if he molested church members children, it is highly likely he did since he was also molesting his own children.  I wonder how many of the WCG members testified against the guy?

It was revealed that Gough would read passages from the bible to the innocent children while sexually abusing them, between 1976 and 1987.

The court also heard that Gough watched children showering by carving out a peep hole under a house.

His crimes only came to light after his victims came forward last year.

The New Zealand Herald says this:

A former Auckland teacher posed as a God-fearing churchgoer but behind closed doors molested children while reading passages from the bible, a court has heard.

Stephen Gough - who can be named for the first time after name suppression lapsed - was jailed for three and a half years at Waitakere District Court yesterday after admitting nine sex charges.

The 79-year-old man, who propped himself up in the dock with the aid of a walking stick, committed "persistent, relentless and repeated" offences against three girls and a boy between 1976 and 1987.

Sentencing Judge Kevin Glubb said Gough, a former intermediate school woodwork teacher was an active member of the church and gained people's confidence by his standing in the community.
"It's hard to imagine a more gross breach of trust," he said.

Some of the most shocking revelations which emerged in court were that Gough would molest victims, aged between 3 and 16, while reading the bible.

The court also heard how the offender made a peep hole under a house so he could watch children in the shower.

The Church of God has a very sad history of covering up for child molesters in its midst.  Ministers and church leaders covered up for many of the molesters over the decades.  Some were ministers themselves.  They got transferred to other areas where they did it all over again.

Gough has apparently been caught doing this before since court records state that he has been in three separate programs to deal with his sexual deviance.

The court heard that by 1993 Gough had completed three programmes addressing his deviant sexual urges and now considered himself to be "fully cured of the terrible addiction".

 Compounding this horrible issue is that parents knew he was molesting their children and they did NOTHING about it!  This too is a long held standard in Armstrongism.  Parents refused to believe that another church member could do such a thing.  They did not want the embarrassment of having to tell the story and they did not want to bring shame upon the church.  It was preferable for the children to suffer instead.  This is still going on today in the Philadelphia Church of God and other groups.

One of Gough's victims told the Herald his offending had ruined her life.

She said people around her knew what he was doing, but never intervened. She struggles with that daily.

"It was horrible. My mother knew this was going on, the neighbours knew, other relatives... no one ever did anything," she said.

She also believed there would be more victims and was pleased his name suppression had lapsed so his crimes could be "put out there finally".

"I have just about died five times in the last year. I've overdosed, I'm just so depressed, so pissed off with life - I'm just sick of it," she said.

"I hate him. He did this to me from when I was a little girl... I just want what he did acknowledged."

The victim said she was angry at Gough, whose "disgusting" offending had pushed her to drugs, alcohol and an eating disorder.

"I've been an alcohol and drug addict since forever. I had good jobs, I've been a good mum but what he did impacts on my life hugely."

She said his guilty plea was "a relief", but it didn't take her pain away.

"Two months ago I tried to take my life... it was pretty bad, they thought I was going to die this time.
It's pretty hard. He has totally and completely ruined my life, I'm a complete mess. I drink to forget... I've been to rehab four times, I got sectioned last year because of my drinking. I'm so f***ing angry."
She said Gough had apologised to her, but his words meant nothing.

"It wasn't just the sexual abuse, he had me living in terror. I will never get over that.

If you would like to speak to police about Stephen Gough, please call Detective Sergeant Murray Free at the Waitakere police on 09 477 5021.