Wednesday, February 8, 2017

Dave Pack on the Ungodly COG Ministry


Poor Dave.  He just cannot get over the fact that no one wants to follow him. The heretical ministers in the splinter groups refuse to follow him just like they would refuse to follow Peter, Paul or Moses.

He also accuses all of them of running off at the mouth because they know everything about everything.  Apparently he is talking about know-it-all Bob Thiel.  I mean who else knows more than Dave Pack?????
“The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished…[So it’s the same day. Good for us, in 1:19, is bad for certain others, as we saw in II Thessalonians 2. They’re going to be punished on a particular day.]…[And] chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government…[Most of the men out in the splinters now follow committees. They follow democratic governments. They have rejectedGod’s government—speak evil of the idea God works through one man—Mr. Armstrong or me or Peter or Paul or Moses, or any other one man that God raises up. They say committees are the safer way to go, because look what Joe Tkach did. You all know that. But they despise government.]…Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities…[I know a lot of these men. They shoot their mouth off faster than you can say their name. They know everything. Great swelling words of vanity.]
“Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord…[They’ll attack other human beings, but angels won’t even rail against these men. Be careful. Don’t do it. Let God take care of them. Say “The Lord rebuke you.”]
Dave claims that these splinter group ministers were made to be captured by the angels and destroyed  during Dave's kingdom.
“But these…[Again, think of what we read in Jude.]…as natural brute beasts…[The same group.] made…[The word “made” there is gennaō. It’s “born.” Born]…to be taken and destroyed…[They were ordained to this end. Judas was ordained to a certain end. The False Prophet and the Beast are ordained. They’re handpicked by God toward a certain end. There are such people. They were made to be captured by angels and destroyed. They]…speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Dave also says that COG ministers live wanton lives.  At least he got something right!
“And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time…[They just live wanton lives. They do not change, even on the outside, never mind from the heart, brethren, as we are to do.]…Spots they are and blemishes…[It’s just reading like Jude, only it’s adding a little more.]…sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you…[These people have been around for a while. We may go through a feast season where these guys play an important role. We’ll see.] 
COG ministers are adulterous too...and are incapable of not sinning.
“Having eyes full of adultery…[Remember back there in Malachi, a lot of them are treacherous to their own wives.]…and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: [Look out!]…an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; [And they’re called] cursed children…[Well, remember Malachi 2:2. God is going to curse them worse; but He says they’re cursed already. There are some who are cursed already…We read, woe unto the idol shepherds, who leave. They’re going to be cursed again—worse. There’s nobody out there I know of today that is blind or crippled…eye and hand. That has not happened yet.] 
The evil prophet, the man of sin, is to arise from the COG.  Is it Bob Thiel? James Malm?  Dave will most likely have less than three years to warm us all about these three evil men to arise from the COG.  Of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to believe that Dave could be one of the three.
“These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest…[Same as the Jude group. The group to whom woe is coming]…to whom the mist of darkness is reserved forever. [Reads just like Jude.] For when they speak great swelling words of vanity…[That was in Jude.]…they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error…[They’re going to lure some of God’s people. I am going to warn with all my heart. Acts 20verse 32, is my guide; 28 to 32. I don’t think I’ll get three years. But, I’ve warned and warned and warned about evil men and seducers. What I’ve never done, brethren, is “connected the dots” in the splinters to an Evil Shepherd none of them are looking for—to a Man of Sin they think is a false prophet way on down the line among the seven seals.
Dave says we will not believe him when he tells us who the Satan possessed blasphemer is.
And yet it all happened…So when I tell them there is going to be a Satan-possessed blasphemer, who says he is God, and thousands of God’s people are going to follow him…Do you think they’re going to believe me? You make your own decision on that. You draw a conclusion. I just hope some do. But a loving God has a solution for those who don’t, right away. They will survive…You’ve now heard the verses…many will not. But for those who say, “Wow! This is all just new and amazing, but is it scriptural? I would add verse 18, right here, leaving II Peter, “But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen” (vs. 18). 
These rebellious COG ministers were preordained to be evil.  Dave has no intention of letting these degenerate men just come waltzing back into his group without jumping through a lot of hoops.
“For there are certain men crept in unawares…[Paul said they would enter in among you. Jude is saying it…almost the same words…just a little different.]…who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men…[Now look, there were men selected for this task as a great test for a people who would become wretched, miserable, poor, blind, naked, divided; rejecting God’s government and truth; not doing His Work, paying His tithes, and attacking the Church. They were going to have to go through a tremendous test. What are they going to do in that test? They can’t just waltz back into the Church having spent decades—a near full generation attacking and trying to destroy it…So let’s read. They were “ordained to this condemnation”…they’re going to be condemned—certain evil men.]…turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness…[The mystery of iniquity, it’s called. Those who do not keep God’s Law]…and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ” (vs. 4). We now know how they’re going to do that.
Dave's "jesus" is really pissed...
Let me just say it bluntly—Jesus Christ is coming back with vengeance in His heart. He also has a reward with Him. He is also establishing a Kingdom…He’s got a Kingdom with him.  
Here a little, there a little...that record has been broken for so long in the Church of God. It is nothing more than an excuse for mistrial stupidity.


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Tuesday, February 7, 2017

UCG Minister Accused Of Killing His Wife Is Back Out On Bail For Second Time



United Church of God minister Stephen Allwine has posted bail for the second time.  His family has put up the money for the bail again.

After his rearrest the other day for attempting to contact his son, the judge set a new bail amount:

Allwine appeared Wednesday in front of Judge Mary Hannon. She raised unconditional bail to $1.5 million — originally $1 million — and conditional bail to $600,000. The judge ordered Allwine to have no contact with his son or Amy Allwine’s parents.

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BREAKING NEWS: UCG Minister Charged With Killing Wife After Failed Attempt To Hire Hitman








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Philadelphia Church of God: Update on Cal Culpepper/Scott Flory Scandal

The Happy Couple? 
What happens if this new wife runs afoul of Culpepper?


In August of 2016 I posted a letter that was up on Exit and Support about how Cal Culpepper destroyed a marriage in the Philadelphia Church of God.

How Sick Can Cal Culpepper and Gerald Flurry Get?

Recently, I was surprised to receive a call from a good friend from my PCG days whose name is Cassie Flory. Cassie, who was baptized, was married to Scott Flory.1 I was very fond of Scott and Cassie and when I first came into the PCG I would fellowship with them often. We would have meals after services, and I even stayed at their house from time to time. Scott, as I recall, was a very devoted husband and father. I never saw him mistreat his wife and kids in any way. He worked hard to provide for his family and his wife and his kids never lacked anything. In all actuality, I envied them because at that time I was single and living alone. Cassie told me that her marriage to Scott was, for all practical purposes, dissolved by the Regional Director of the North East PCG--Cal Culpepper. She said they both were cast out ("suspended") from the PCG a few years ago under the direct orders from Cal Culpepper for certain offenses that Culpepper found unacceptable. 
Scott apparently pined away faithfully during all the time of their suspension and was waiting for that special phone call from Culpepper that would allow them to return to the "church." Well, some time ago, he got the green light from Culpepper to return. However Scott was faced with a dilemma. The condition of his return to the PCG was that he had to turn out his wife Cassie and no longer allow her to live with him. When Scott told Cassie that he was allowed back in PCG, she said, "What about me?" He told her to leave his house ASAP. Cassie told me that she had nowhere to go!! She packed some of her belongings and lived for a while with various friends. She finally found her own place and is trying to rebuild her life, but is now living without the man she loved and was married to for over 10 years. All of this on the direct orders from the demonized Cal Culpeper.
This couple has two children, a boy and a girl. They are both grown young people and, from what I understand, do not attend the PCG any longer. So it seems that my once good friend Scott who I always remembered as a loving husband has--at the behest of Culpepper and for the sake of saving his skin from the Tribulation--lost his wife and children. As a consequence of this new policy from Flurry, he will (in his own mind) never see his family again unless they repent under torture from the Beast power and be "martyred for the faith." Then they will all be happily united in HWA's "World Tomorrow." My question is this: What kind of poisonous spiritual Kool Aid is Gerald Flurry forcing his followers to drink that would turn a loving husband and father into something like this?
Now there is more to the story.  Thanks to Twitter we now know what Cal Culpepper had up his sleeve.


From a PCG source:
UPDATE on the Scott Flory PCG Scandal:
Scott Flory has been given a new wife by Cal Culpepper as a reward for obeying Gerald Flurry's new disfellowshipment polices.  Culpeppepr had ordered Flory to kick his first and legitimate wife out of the home as a condition for admittance back into the cult. 
Culpepper has been extremely nasty in his treatment of PCG members who have spouses who are no longer part of the PCG cult.  Either kick them out, divorce them or loose your eternal salvation.








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Obama's Brother Works With Dangerous Church of God Splinter Cult



I was doing a search on Yisrayl Hawkins and the House Yahweh today and discovered this little tidbtit that I had never seen before.  The article is in one of the Church of God's favorite ultraconservative "news" sites...World Net Daily. Bob Thiel and Flurry quote from WND frequently assuming it is a legitimate news source.

NEW YORK – President Obama’s half-brother from Kenya, Abongo Malik Obama, will return Friday to the U.S., not to visit the White House as he has done before, but to begin a partnership with a cult leader in Texas who has been compared to David Koresh and Jim Jones.
Malik will be in Abilene, Texas, to attend the Peaceful Solution Character Education Convention hosted by known polygamist Yisrayl Hawkins, head of a group called the House of Yahweh, reports Arabic-speaking Islam researcher Walid Shoebat.
Hawkin's traces his ties back to the Worldwide Church of God movement under Herbert Armstrong.
Hawkins believes he is personally mentioned in the Bible and has actually rewritten his version of the Bible to include his name and the House of Yahweh in it.  Hawkins also believes that a baby was born in 2007 that will grow up to cause a nuclear ward that will burn the entire earth in a matter of 30 minutes.  Like Bob Thiel and Dave Pack, Hawkins self-appointed himself as God's most important man on earth that will lead the chosen people of God into the kingdom.

In 2008, Hawkins was prosecuted in Baird, Texas, after being charged with performing polygamous weddings and forcing children as young as 11 to work at his 44-acre compound, the the Associated Press reported at the time.
“But this isn’t the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints’ ranch, which authorities raided last month in Eldorado after receiving reports that underage girls were being forced to marry much older men,” the AP noted.
“This is the House of Yahweh: a different, even darker sect that the state has been investigating for years.”
In 2009, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the bigamy charges against Hawkins were dropped in his Callahan County court case, because a Class A misdemeanor bigamy charge had a two-year limitation and the charges dated back to 2005. There also was a resource limitation when the trial judge granted a change in venue from Callahan County to Parker County, Texas.
Hawkins, however, pleaded “no contest” to four counts of child labor violations for which he was assessed a $2,000 fine, 100 hours of community service and 15 months probation for each count.

Malik Obama partners with House of Yahweh
Shoebat pointed out in a report that Malik has described Hawkins’ group as a “partner organization” in a posting titled “Impacting people everywhere for meaningful change” on his Barack H. Obama Foundation website.
Barack H. Obama Foundation website announcement of Hawkins “Peaceful Solution Character Education Incorporated” meeting in Abilene, Texas
press release issued this week by Peaceful Solution Character Education promoted the upcoming meeting.
“Various speakers from around the globe, including Malik Obama, yes, the brother of President Obama, will address a variety of issues. The group says each speaker will provide answers that will solve many of the problems being faced in the home, school, workplace, and society as a whole.”
The press release also quoted Yisrayl Hawkins, as founder of the program, saying: “We will give you answers to solve any problem you can think of. Just show up, and be ready to get your solution.”


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