Hundreds of Millions of Dollars Will Soon Be Pouring Into The Church From The Wicked

Imagine tens of thousands of present day church members and ex-members flooding into the Restored Church of God.  Dave sees these people also becoming part of the wicked that end up following the two shepherds because the brethren are really, really stupid and think these two men will be the two witless witnesses.  These two men will deceive most of the brethren along with the gullible public.  These two wicked shepherds are crafty and cunning men.  They will make the COG members and thousands of pagans turn over all of their money to the true church for its use.  Hundreds of millions of dollars will flow into superfantabulous Dave's empire.  The glory days will be here!

Now, how does the trial end? Well, this is the brilliant genius of God…I know I’ve explained these things, but I want it all clear. How does the trial end? The trial ends, not with the righteous leaving the wicked, and there went all the assets…but God has Satan’s agents loot the wicked and then has them all leave. They’re sent an additional delusion in some way, and out go thousands and thousands of the wicked. They just depart, and the righteous are left with everything and then they’re told to go to the mountain—because there’s only one government left. That’s why it says “the mountain” and bring the wood. Bring home the beef bacon…or turkey bacon. So God loots the wicked. And if the righteous leave they are disobeying God’s command to stay and bring the assets, because those assets are going to be used.

The wicked are literally going to contribute…and the devil always does. He stumbles into serving God’s purpose. They’re going to gather all…All of this, enormous funds, is going to be used in the Kingdom of God to “juice” us in a way we probably can’t even imagine; but I’m going to tell you, it will involve hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. It has to. It’s the net worth of a large group, plus all the assets they brought going in—just corporately—as well as the individual groups.

Now let’s understand a few other things. God has to have a way to test thousands of people before He brings them back to His flock, so He has to…He hands them over to Satan. That’s what this is. For a longtime, I first thought, wow, the Man of Sin is in the Church, but what we never really addressed is why. Why would God raise up two wizards and a false Jesus and jam all of His peopleunder those men? Why would you do that if you’re God? For the same reason the five other cases I cited, scripturally, He turns them over to Satan. It’s to test them—to forge and temper—and toughen—and wizen them. And after suffering, people learn. Suffering kicks the mental learning mechanism into gear. I learned that decades ago. I think the fifth sermon I ever gave was on the subject of suffering.

The Church of God, even in Passover it cannot be unified

Since Herbert Armstrong's death in 1986, hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups have broken off of the mother church.  Each one claiming they hold the exclusive rights to what God actually thinks and expects.  One self-appointed apostate after another have set themselves up as God's exclusive mouthpiece here on earth. Dreams and endless revelations come to these fools daily.

In spite of all the disunity, one might expect that the Church of God would be unified in keeping it's Old Covenant version of the Passover.  Even with that, the Church of God is divided.

Some groups claim Passover was a few days ago on the might of the 9th, other's like James Malm say it is tonight, the 11th.  Others claim it is later this week.  Others sat outside in the early mornings waiting for the slightest sliver of the moon to show up over Jerusalem and others were outside looking for barley grains, whether in barley fields or along side roads where stray barley has taken root.   If it is there, the legalists will find it.

Chief Pharisee Malm is particularly incensed at those who do not keep it on the same day he does

“Jesus ate the Passover early so that he could die when the lambs were sacrificed and Israel sacrificed the lambs on the afternoon of the 14th and ate it on the end of the 14th:” 

That is modern apostate Rabbinic practice designed to deny the Messiahship of Christ by confusing the date of the Passover.

I cannot imagine why this gross heresy is pushed so hard – behind the scenes – in the various COG groups today; except that Satan seeks to confuse the brethren with lies and blind people to the truth. 

Just under the surface Tkach Evangelicalism is spread very deep and wide in today’s COG groups by Tkach loyalists; especially in UCG and LCG’s Living U. There is a reason why M.G. was so furious at me teaching the truth, because he hates the truth and is a secret Tkachie; yet he runs like a rabbit when I take a stand and insist that he prove his doctrinal attacks. James

How can the COG ever be unified when it cannot keep its sacred Passover together as one?  Even worse, most of these foolish men all claim they will be heading to Petra where God is going to give them final training.  Imagine what a fight will erupt there since none of them can get along together today.  Laughingly, they all expect to do some major mind boggling work in the near further.  They won't and they can't.

But I Kept The Sabbath!!!!!

LCG: Oh the joy, the excellence, the uh, excitement! Ugh the fakery, the condescension, the scorn!

From an LCG source:

Tomorrow's World Now (Live) . Actual quotes (excerpts from first 4 minutes out of 20):

Host Dylan King: It's a brand new technology.

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We're excited to come to you right now, live, wherever you might be. You might be on your phone, you might be on your computer, you might be at home, you might be at work, you might be in Asia, you might be in India. You could be ANYWHERE in the world and seeing us RIGHT NOW, which is SO exciting for us to be able to talk to you, right here now.

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What do you think about this really neat endeavor that the Living Church of God is doing through Tomorrow's World now; this new show?

Wyatt Ciesielka: First of all, I'm really excited about it. God has called his church to preach the gospel to the world and this is one way we can do it.

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It's a big day for us. Hopefully God will bless it (scornful comment: if you don't get huge numbers does it mean God isn't blessing it?), hopefully those who watch it online will pray for us and pray that it will be blessed, and that it can be effective (scornful comment: if it fails we know who to blame, the faithless viewers!) .

Host: Right now there's probably 10, 20, 30, we don't know how many people watching, but, you know, there's  a really HUGE potential out there for this technology (scornful comment: but if nobody views it other than LCG members it means that God is obviously not calling anyone, so it's still a success because you tried but it wasn't in God's will for anyone to view, right?). I mean, how many people are actually on Facebook these days? 'Cause I know it grows pretty much every day, every minute, every hour, right?

Wyatt Ciesielka: Some stats that we looked up before the show, there are more than 5 new profiles created every second. Uh, there's probably about 2 billion active Facebook users, some uh, sources say about 1.9 billion, but those are ACTIVE Facebook users.

Um, and we know Facebook reaches people all around the world, like you were mentioning. There's something also coming out, uh, which we're excited about, it might be an opportunity for us to reach people in the developing world: Facebook Lite.

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Yeah, and what's really, uh, exciting, and I think, um, you know, we know that uh, media can be used for good or bad, we understand that. But, uh, I think the church has to take advantage of technology, and doors that God opens.

I have a Question: Is this True? Is this Reasonable? Is this Confusing? Why does my stomach hurt?

Dear Split (UCG/LCG), Splinter (RCG/PCG)  Sliver (CCG) and Assorted Types Attracted to Those Who Claim to Know...

When you listen, week after week, month after month, year after year and now decade after decade to your under educated, poorly trained, Biblically haunted,  self absorbed, tale weaving, psychologically unstable, personality deficient, title taking,  mistaken and misapplication prone Apostle, "Prophet" or Pastor, allow yourself what all people are entitled to in life to wonder about and openly ask of any one who insists you believe them. 

Is this true?  Is this reasonable?  Is it kind?  Can we prove this?  How does he know that?  Is he stable?  Does the Bible really mean that?  Is this for us today?  Is it confusing and causing confusion?  Does it matter?  What is the chance this fantastical view is correct?   What will happen to me/us if it is not correct?  Do my concerns, fears and questions about this matter him?  What has happened to those who have disagreed in the past?  Was that the proper response to "prove all things?"  Will he apologize personally if completely wrong?  If he was wrong then why is he right now?  If he is wrong again, why would he be right in the future?  What does "In the multitude of counsel there is safety" mean to my leaders?  ...and all the other questions that race through your mind as well as thinking your  doubts should match the questions you actually ask and wish an answer for without fear of unintended consequences.

It's ok to ask....

 Why be skeptical?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/secularoutpost/2014/10/25/why-be-skeptical/

Nobody should be skeptical just because they are told by me or by a teacher or by a parent that they should be skeptical.   I believe there are good reasons why people should be skeptical, especially if they are interested in knowing and believing what is true and what is reasonable to believe:

1. People are often dishonest, deceptive, or have been deceived by others.
2. People are often irrational or motivationally biased in their thinking (e.g. egocentrism, sociocentism, wishful thinking, superstition, and sexism).
3. People have natural tendencies to think illogically, even when they manage to avoid being irrational or motivationally biased in their thinking (e.g. hasty generalization, post hoc fallacy, confirmation bias, false dilemma, errors based on the ‘representativeness heuristic’, belief bias (“When one’s evaluation of the logical strength of an argument is biased by their belief in the truth or falsity of the conclusion.” See article on Cognitive Bias:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias )
4. Most of what people believe, they “learned” from others (parents, teachers, pastors, friends, books, magazines, television, movies, newspapers, blogs) who are usually not experts in, and not well-informed about, the topics that they were talking about. Misinformation is a widespread cultural phenomenon.
5. The truth or the best solution to a problem is often difficult to figure out, even when everyone involved is thinking logically, rationally, and being honest (which is almost never the case).
6. Skepticism works, especially in relation to trying to understand nature and how natural processes work.  Science works by challenging claims, assumptions, and theories, and by demanding carefully gathered facts and data to support claims, assumptions, hypotheses and theories, and by subjecting scientific arguments, hypotheses, experiments, and theories to skeptical peer review."

(A Timely Reminder and one of the greatest COG quotes of all time )

  

"I want to make a statement about...me...now, if I became deceived, I will never tell you what I'm going to tell you now...I am telling you  if I go off into strange ideas,  misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don't follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I'm gonna try to get you to follow me! I'm gonna come to you and tell you it doesn't apply, it doesn't mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I'm saying? Listen to me now, when I tell you don't follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct,because if I do I'm gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I'm saying brethren? Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I'll forget it, and I'll want you to forget it...And  I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me...But I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere.

Dave Pack

December 12, 1998