The Real Truth: Why Dave Pack's Creature Called "christ" Has Been Delayed....

From a reader:

Various denominations have the title “Right Reverend” for certain of their dignitaries (compare to “Right Honourable” in British usage, “right” carrying the sense of “very”) who merit such distinction. David Pack doesn’t get such a title —even if the COG allowed such titles — because he is not very “reverend” and he is so very wrong much of the time, the opposite of the another use of the word “right.”

However, I do see, thanks to some scurrilous website, that he has made the following remark:

“But if somehow God wanted to do that and let things drift out of Unleavened Bread, but "raise" everybody for the “Great Supper” on that day, then that's his prerogative. I don't see how it fits but I don't want to preclude it“
This is an important statement for several reasons: “I don’t see how it fits,” is probably the truest and rightest thing Pack has said. Secondly, if God wants to do something, that’s God’s “prerogative.” Two true statements in one sentence. Is this a personal best for Mr Pack?

Further, he doesn’t “want to preclude” God’s right to do whatever the hell God wants to do. I can’t think of a greater example of modesty and humility.

I offer up another possibility here, Coming from the East, on His way to Wadsworth, Christ’s ship was delayed by that mess in the Canal. Surely we can find a prophetic verse to back this up. But failing that, I revert to my often voiced prophecy that Pack will “discover” that Christ has indeed returned, and is presently dwelling in Mr Pack’s body. He has resisted the truth of this simply because he was being modest, but now (or when) all other possibilities are exhausted, it’s the only logical possible solution.

Stay tuned.

Dave Pack Moves The Goal Posts Again: Wild Elephants Can't Stop us from a 1 Year Wait!

“Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.” – Judge Judy

The craziness in Wadsworth continues as Dave moves the goalposts once more concerning the timing of his creature he calls "christ" and the date of his second coming.

From an RCG source:

(This message was given on the First Day of Unleavened Bread, where Dave skipped the double service so he could prepare these 45 minutes explaining why RCG’s predictions were wrong again. The quote is the conclusion to Part 300) 

 

Now I want to just say this because I've been wrong before on timing. Let's allow that somehow, all these points [the previous 45 minutes of points] could, somehow suggest a Last Day of Unleavened Bread, start of the “84 hours.” ...But if somehow God wanted to do that and let things drift out of Unleavened Bread, but "raise" everybody for the “Great Supper” on that day, then that's his prerogative. I don't see how it fits but I don't want to preclude it, because if we got through Tuesday, the question is the same. “Do you think we're going another year or maybe another three and a half days? Or through to Wednesday morning?” Therefore, we may speculate that sometime midweek, about Tuesday night through Wednesday morning, mirroring “Christ's Last Supper” we'll see God and Christ for the "Great Supper."

The 84 hours were described in Daniel as opening with a resurrection, some unto eternal life, others would go on to everlasting shame and contempt. That's the start of it. Everything begins with the "Great Supper." Now, I guess, after all was said and done, this is Part 300. All right. I guess it was destined to be. Would this "short message," in fact, be the “final ration,” “given in due season” before Christ is revealed in the same season, before on the last day of that season, we see all Israel and all the saints. On the first day of unleavened bread, the message would be given, that I unexpectedly had to race, rush to review and then assemble, through nonstop study beginning last night at the dinner table with some ministers. And I went home late into the night, got up this morning and stayed with it all day long. And didn't get to hear what I'm sure were, two wonderful sermons and sermonettes to others.

And then that message would be delivered after which we are to "watch." It would seem so. We're still more on track than the whole church knows, you now know it, but everybody else does. And if I go too long, it's too much translating and too much other time loss of time and then others may not hear this. But if Unleavened Bread totally all of it ends, then "wild elephants" cannot pull us back from a full one-year wait. That's why I wanted to throw in, in case I'm wrong on the timing that everything on the last day, rather than Tuesday night or Wednesday, I wanted to say only then would we have a one-year wait, not because as we got through, um, Passover a couple of nights ago, and we were somehow still here. I hope this helps, godspeed Christ's return sometime the middle of this week before we all are together, on the last day you now know of Unleavened Bread.

 

Kevin Dean Molestation Victim Speaks Out - - - LET THE HEALING BEGIN!!!

One of Kevin Owen Dean's victims speaks out:

This is my the post I made this morning on Facebook.

I have been dealing with other things and was delayed in posting about the court case with my predator from high school. I had no idea about this article until my friend sent it to me this morning.

This article, in a nutshell tells the story of how we got that lame excuse for a man in jail for LIFE!!! We (the ladies that came forward) got to watch Kevin Owen Dean get sentenced on Zoom last Wednesday. We are very fortunate that we got to see justice prevail. We cannot un-ring that bell but it is nice to have some idea of closure in the knowledge that he can't hurt anyone in that way ever again. I have been waiting 36 years for this. Karma is a thing and it will pay you back.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SAY SOMETHING if anyone ever touched you in the wrong way. The statute of limitations has been lifted. The possibility of catching your predator is REAL. Child molesters are sometimes relatives and/or like to hide in churches, schools, youth groups, etc.

*Special note to parents. When your child, male or female comes to you and tells you a horrific story, YOU BETTER LISTEN AND FOLLOW UP!!!! Lots of people keep molesting because the kids are afraid to say anything because they think they will get in trouble and won't be believed. (That was exactly the case with the 3 of us girls. Our parents protected the predator because he was a high ranking person in our church.)

I am grateful to my friend for reaching out to me back in 2010 to tell me her story. I am grateful to another woman who reached out to me just 2 weeks ago and I was able to put her in touch with the DA. I am grateful that the step-granddaughter told her mother and that mother believed her. I cannot take the pain away from these women, but I love and commend them for their bravery, tenacity and courage.

By law, the prosecution has to share the witness list with the defense. When Dean found out that the 4 of us were coming IN PERSON to testify against him, he caved and switched his plea to guilty.

Special thanks to Lindsay Raynor, Assistant District Attorney -Cobb Judicial Circuit and Jessica Hines, Victim/Witness Advocate, Special Victims Unit Cobb County, District Attorney's Office for all of your help, understanding and perseverance on this case. I also want to give thanks to Sharon M. Fox, the retired Senior Assistant District Attorney who started this case back in 2010. xoxoxoxo

I do offer my condolences to his 2 daughters; I hope he left them alone.

LET THE HEALING BEGIN!!! 

By Lisa Davis 

 

FOX News Atlanta: Former teacher, pastor sentenced to prison for molesting young Georgia relative

 

BREAKING: Kevin Dean Has Additional 25-Years Prison Term Added To His Present 20 Year Sentence After Admitting He Molested Numerous Girls/Women

Kevin Dean was one of Herbert Armstrong's stewards on the jet, worked at Imperial Schools, SEP summer camps, and some other offices in Pasadena. In 2012 while waiting for trial for molestation, he cut his ankle tracker off and headed off to Mexico, with assistance from friends and some say, family, who all covered up where he was. Another sad legacy of the Church of God.

A Kennesaw man already serving 20 years for child molestation was sentenced to 25 more years for similar crimes in Cobb County, the District Attorney’s Office said Thursday. 

 

Kevin Owen Dean, 70, pleaded guilty Wednesday to eight counts of child molestation and three counts of aggravated child molestation for acts committed beginning in 2000 when the girl was 4 years old, the DA’s office said. Dean abused the girl until she was 14, according to investigators, and the molestation escalated over the years. 

 

In 2010, the victim disclosed the abuse, and her mother contacted Cobb police. In a forensic interview, the teen told investigators Dean had abused her at two residences in Cobb and at his Marietta office, the DA’s office said.

See: Ex-principal and serial molester gets additional 25-year sentence in Cobb 

In 2010, the victim disclosed the abuse, and her mother contacted Cobb police. In a forensic interview, the teen told investigators Dean had abused her at two residences in Cobb and at his Marietta office, the DA’s office said. 

 

Dean initially denied everything, but eventually admitted to investigators that he had shown pornography to the victim and given and received oral sex with her, according to prosecutors. Dean also stated he was a former teacher and should have known better. 

 

At Dean’s home, investigators found toys and videos the victim had described. In September 2010, Dean was charged with numerous counts of child molestation and sexual battery, records show. 

 

When the investigation revealed Dean also abused the victim in a Cartersville office, he was also charged in Bartow County. 

 

In 2012 while awaiting trial in both counties, Dean cut off his ankle monitor and fled the country, the Cobb DA’s office said. He evaded capture for seven years until U.S. marshals caught up with him in Mexico in 2019 and he was returned to the United States. 

 

Later that year, Dean pleaded guilty to child molestation in Bartow. He has been serving that sentence at Jenkins Correctional Institute, according to the Georgia Department of Corrections. 

 

Since the allegations against Dean went public, three other women have said he molested them in the 1980s in California. Dean was then a church pastor, a principal, and ran a summer camp, according to the Cobb DA’s office. 

 

The victims addressed the court Wednesday before Dean was sentenced, with one of the California victims calling the Cobb victim “a hero” for speaking up. 

 

Cobb Superior Court Judge Ann Harris sentenced Dean to 25 years to serve in prison without the possibility of parole, plus life on probation.

See: Mugshots.com: KEVIN OWEN DEAN

“It is more honorable to admit a mistake than to cover it.”

 Ok Dave,  It's over.  You've had your day in the limelight and it's lights out. For the last decade and more you have made one "absolutely clear to me" mess of the scriptures after another. I don't know what your definition of a failed "prophet" and ministry is but we do as should your followers. I say followers because they aren't really members of any real Christian Church. They just follow you and endlessly evidently to their future harm. 

You are the epitome of what is wrong with religion today. Weaving tales about the end times, as does Bob Thiel and others, as if you know, and making scriptures mean what they never meant in the first place.  Weaving and cobbling one unconnected scripture after another into a stinking mess of mere speculation unrelated to the core values and teachings of Christianity.  

"Your Creature Christ" is a apt description of just who and what you have come up with over the past years. 

"We now have, and now I clearly see this, with no disagreement among the Headquarters ministers, one more year.  

Dave....that is bullshit.  You are postponing the inevitable. No Jesus and no God the Father are coming in your lifetime.  (In my view never).  

I was told once "Dennis, we think you know an awfully lot about Jesus, but we don't think you know Jesus."   I got the point and did not disagree though I suspect that was said to make me think long an hard about that and come crawling on my knees back to the emotional and evangelical "Jesus".

You don't even get that.  "Dave, we don't think you know much about Jesus at all. Hell, we don't think you understand the  Old or New Testaments either."  

I'm not confident you or RCG can survive you.  I am not confident you can pull back and actually focus on the teachings of the NT , or if you really wish to be a New Covenant minister even. I think HWA and WCG got you so caught up in end time prophetic baloney that you probably can't give it up. It is the habit WCG gave to most of the gurus of the splinters. And while it is the gift that keeps on giving, to you, it is a Trojan Horse and will bite you and your followers in the ass before long. No, actually I believe you won't give it up and that will be your end and the end of your mini Kingdom of Yourself fairly soon. 

Dave, you, like everyone in WCG before you and RCG are going to die. We all here reading this are going to die like every other human being who is and has lived on this earth has died.  We don't like to think about that. We wanted and you still do, want to feel special.  Don't forget that the Apostle Paul, who boldly claimed "we shall not all die but we shall be changed", died without the change.  He didn't lie I am sure but he was wrong. Just as you are wrong.  So very wrong. 

"It's very difficult for humans to say the words "He/she/they died." What a marvelous number of euphemisms for death we have. We pass on, croak, kick the bucket, go home, expire, succumb, leave, meet our maker, go to our reward, get wasted, check out, eternally rest, are a goner, end, bite the dust, get liquidated, terminated and annihilated. We give up the ghost, make the change, transition, get mertilized, go to to the other side, fall asleep, get taken, rubbed and snuffed out. We depart, transcend and buy the farm. We are feeling no pain, lose the race, cash in, cross Jordan and go with the angels. We get done in, translate into glory, return to the dust, wither away, give up, take the long sleep and a dirt bath. It can be curtains, a dropped body, six feet under and out of our misery. We find everlasting peace, new lives the great beyond, ride into the sunset and that's all we wrote. But in plain fact, we are dead. And we all will die. 

https://ezinearticles.com/?Death-Kicking-the-Bucket,-Being-a-Goner,-Biting-the-Dust,-Checking-Out-and-Feeling-No-Pain&id=155908

Take some of your ill gotten gain Dave and invest in some seriously honest classes in theology, Christology, Church History and why one should not be too quick to read the Book of Revelation like a newspaper. (old term I know)  A Lutheran minister told me that years ago and it stuck in the back of my mind even as a pastor as one of the dangers in the WCG approach to it all. Time has proven that correct. 

Time will prove you mistaken, as if it hasn't enough already,  and your followers to have completely wasted their precious life time and weekends. 

Admit to them you were wrong. Not just a little wrong but completely wrong. God is not giving you more time. God is not revealing more baloney to you to keep your mistaken views alive. No God has anything to do with anything you are doing.  And then assure them you will give the New Testament a good read again and see what it really says. 

Try giving just one sermon where you make no references to either the Old Testament or yourself.

That will always be your challenge in ministry even if your ministry proves just to be a figment of your imagination.