Dave Pack Says He Went To Visit In-laws But Spent Most Of The Time In His Motel Room Studying His Bible

Lost Time

 

Where in the world is David C. Pack?

 

For the Pastor General and Elijah/Not Elijah/Maybe Elijah of The Restored Church of God to have gone silent during such a time of epic craptacular failure is unprecedented.

 

The last time he went dark was when he contracted COVID at the Feast of Tabernacles in 2020. Even then, he "emerged from his house" with the idea that he was a type of Ezekiel. You know, to take a normal-life situation and make it biblical. After all, "time and chance" is just for us common folk, not an apostle.

 

During this peaceful period before the prophetic frenzy kicks back into gear, I revisited my notes from The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 385). That was way back on July 30th.

 

There was something Dave said that I did not use in the article Holy Day Whoopsie-Daisy. The content was off-topic to the rest of the message, but it bothered me when I heard it. In fact, most of what you will read here was written that day but not published.

 

 

This will give you insight into how the man thinks. I have stayed away from his personal details that I witnessed while inside RCG, but if Dave states something publicly now, I call it fair game.

 

@ 20:40 I lost time when I was on vacation a week ago. I’d try to study as much as I could, but hadn’t seen my in-laws for four years, a little over. And I wanted to spend a lotta time with them but I spent a lot of time in the motel room studying and thinking about these things. It’s it’s this is dramatic stuff.

 

Only David C. Pack can consider a vacation with his wife to see her family as “lost time.” That does not bode well for the tone of their marriage.

 

He "wanted to spend a lotta time with them" but instead spent it studying. Interactions with other people must be completely annoying to him. So much for life-work balance.

 

Recognize that he is proud of this. See how devoted he is to “figuring out” prophecy!

 

In hindsight, considering he came back to Ohio with the Elul 15 idea which he poo-pooed days later, maybe he should have put the Bible down for a few days and focused on real human interactions with real human beings who are not trained to kiss his backside.

 

Perhaps he could have gained some helpful insight by being surrounded by people who do not tremble when they forget to call him "Mr. Pack" or in a moment of absentmindedness, accidentally pat him on the shoulder.

 

There is something to be said for being too close to an idea. Both creative and analytical types know that your brain needs to take a break from what you are fixated on so then clear answers can manifest. Like going to bed and waking up with the solution.

 

Come on Dave, even God rested on the Seventh Day.

 

Since he is a non-stop Bible study machine, it is no wonder he has zero self-awareness of what he is saying and what he is thinking, and what he is teaching. His attention is typically three inches in front of his nose. If it is on his mind, it is important. What is important to you is considered “lost time.”

 

His poor wife. She is one of my favorite people still inside RCG. I feel sad for her, but then I also think what a wonderful vacation moment for her when Dave chooses to stay back at the motel. Now she can spend time with her family and friends relaxing and not have to measure her words carefully when they ask, “How are you doing?”

 

“Where’s Dave?”

 

“Back at the motel. He’s studying.”

 

She is met with rolling eyes, but then a bright smile, “Good!” Finally, she gets some peace and quiet.

 

“I lost time when I was on vacation…” This was not whispered at a private dinner among close friends. He said this to the entire church. I immediately felt bad for Mrs. Pack and wondered how she might react to such a statement. If any “regular non-apostle” had said such a thing to a crowded room with his wife present, he would be sleeping on the couch that night.

 

Oh man, that car ride to and from Ohio must have been draining. To have Dave at the wheel talking continuously for hours. Every thought that falls into his mind slips out of his mouth.

 

Being stuck in a car with him on a long trip must be like enduring a marathon. You pace yourself. Control your breathing. Keep your mind focused away from the pain. Have a clear image of the finish line with you crossing it to keep yourself from going crazy or collapsing along the way.

 

Believe me, there is no tougher cookie inside RCG than Mrs. Pack. Guaranteed.

 

Marc Cebrian

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Thought for the Day

 

Bricket Wood Campus Was Built In The Middle Of Wiccan And Nudist Enclaves

 

Hanstead House on former Ambassador College Bricket Wood Campus, England

1960 Bricket Wood students

The Herts Advertiser had an article the other day that mentioned the former Ambassador College campus in Bricket Wood England Area Guide: The Hertfordshire village of Bricket Wood between St Albans and Watford. That campus was shut down in 1974 because the church could no longer afford to keep it up. In 2021 the former campus was bulldozed down. More COG  members tithe money down the drain.

The Herts Advertiser says:

Hanstead House is one of the village’s best known buildings and has a rich and varied history.

It was once owned by the Scottish entrepreneur Sir David Yule, arguably the most influential Brit to do business with India during the British Empire.

Hanstead House was subsequently used as an Arabian horse stud farm, the UK college campus for American evangelist Herbert W. Armstrong's Radio Church of God movement, and a corporate training facility.

More recently, it’s been transformed into 11 luxury apartments as part of the wider Hanstead Park development of new build homes.

All the elegant apartments have been sold with prices from around £1m.

The article goes on to describe other properties and buildings in the Bricket Wood area. It has become the hot real estate market for the region.

What was interesting were the following about the area Herbert Armstrong picked to put his campus.

The area around Bricket Wood is also a hotspot for naturists. 

 

For those who dare to bare, naturist resort Spielplatz – German for ‘playground’ – is located off Lye Lane.

Then there's the nearby British Naturism's Sunfolk facility, a five acre woodland naturist site in How Wood, that also provides ample opportunities to strip off and unwind among like-minded nudists.

Bricket Wood was also a hotbed for Wiccan activity:

Bizarrely, Bricket Wood is also known for its ties to Gerald Gardner, who is regarded by many as the "father of modern witchcraft".

In 1945, Gardner purchased a plot of land near Bricket Wood, now known as Five Acres.

He dismantled a 16th century Wiccan witch cottage in Ledbury, Herefordshire, and reconstructed it at Five Acres as a convening point for his brand of pagan witchcraft. 

It is interesting that Herbert Armstrong placed his two campuses (Bricket Wood and Pasadena) close to two areas known for Wiccan and satanic activities. Bricket Wood had its Wiccans and Herbert's campus was just up the street from Jack Parson's den of satanic debauchery and sex orgies that was frequented by Aleister Crowley and L Ron Hubbard.

Pasadena Now reports Exploring the Occult World of Jack Parsons:

Jack Parsons led a double life: rocketry pioneer by day, black magician by night who worshipped Aleister Crowley, had a run-in with L. Ron Hubbard and called himself the Antichrist 

 

"Aleister Crowley was a mountain climber, poet, chess player, writer and mystical magician. And he was one of the most controversial spiritual figures of the 20th century. He developed occult philosophies, practiced sex magic and called himself the Beast 666. The British tabloids called him “the wickedest man in the world.” 

 

He was also the spiritual mentor of one Jack Parsons, the rocketry pioneer from Pasadena whose fuel inventions led to the founding of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)."

"In 1942, Parsons moved to 1003 S. Orange Grove, a mansion next door to Lilly Anheuser Busch that became known as both the Parsonage and Grim Gables, and turned it into a Gnostic Mass temple where they hosted OTO gatherings—including orgies and magic rituals. The mansion was the former home of Arthur Fleming, Caltech benefactor and lumber millionaire who hosted Caltech luminaries such as Albert Einstein in that house, which he built in 1899 as one of the first Craftsman houses in Pasadena. 

 

Parsons, Betty, Helen and Smith all lived in the 11-bedroom abode along with an eclectic and debaucherous group of people, many of whom regularly swapped partners sexually. Pendle called it a “Dionysian climate of excess.”"

Describing Jack parsons:

He began practicing black magick, witchcraft and voodoo. From December 1945 to March 1946, he performed a series of intense magical rituals called Babalon Working in an effort to conjure up an “elemental mate” using his own blood and semen, in order to then birth a “moonchild.” He chanted in the Enochian tongue, developed by 16th century alchemist Dr. John Dee, and drew pentagrams in the air. He believed he experienced supernatural phenomena, but it was likely Hubbard pulling a fast one on him. However, his future second wife Marjorie Cameron soon appeared at the Parsonage.

And then there was Armstrongism right in the middle of the mix.

See:  

Area Guide: The Hertfordshire village of Bricket Wood between St Albans and Watford

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Ambassador College Bricket Wood England Torn Down

Bricket Wood England Campus: Setting For Scenes In New Movie "Plastic"

Bricket Wood, England Campus For Sale (Again)

Gerald Flurry Humiliates Dave Pack By Purchasing Property At Former Bricket Wood England Campus (UPDATED)

UPDATED: Gerald Flurry Fails To Buy A Large Portion of Bricket Wood Campus

The Spirit of Ambassador: The Early Years

Exploring the Occult World of Jack Parsons

How Jack Parsons and the Suicide Squad Created a ‘New Paradigm in Rocketry’

WANTED: Minister for the new Church of Uplifting God's Hurting Sheep (COUGHS)

From a reader:

I came across this Help Wanted ad as I was cleaning out any remaining Rubbish, Crap, and Garbage (RCG) from those who are Rich with INCreased Goods (RCG) aka Rich Cash Guys (RCG). I think I wrote it after reading the Minister's Questionnaire when I saw it sometime in 2021...

Wanted: 

 Minister 

for the 

Church of Uplifting God’s Hurting Sheep (COUGHS)

The person to be considered for this position should have the following qualifications:

Above reproach

Sober

Discreet

Modest

Not a drunk

Not a brawler

Not quarrelsome

Not greedy of ill-gotten gains

Not a whore-monger

Not a gossiper

Patient

Hospitable

Not covetous

Not lifted up with pride

Must be of good report 

Merciful

Compassionate

Understanding

Faithful

Hopeful

And above all, you must have Love…Agape, not Lust

(This is a partial list, see the instruction Book for the full list of qualifications)

The successful candidate will be serving a congregation of unknown size. There are so many beaten, abused, downtrodden, weary sheep… It may start out to be a small congregation, but sheep tend to follow the leader, and once a sheep sees other sheep headed somewhere, they, like Mary’s Little Lamb, will be sure to follow.

The person to be hired for this job must not have either illusions of, nor delusions of grandeur. You are a human being, and only one…You will check your ego at the door. If you have urges to become someone else, or several other people, such as Elijah, Joshua, Moses, or That Prophet, please report it to the ruling Council of Elders/Board of Directors (duly appointed by God)…they will be able to get you psychiatric help and/or medication.

You will answer to the aforementioned Council/Board members. They will be able to hire you and fire you, as directed by God. They will receive no monetary gains for that or any other duty.

You will keep your day job, and collect your income from there (think of Paul working as a tentmaker.) You may or may not be given a small stipend for your work with the sheep. You will not demand money, houses, or any other valuables from the sheep. They do not have fleeces of gold and are not yours for the sheering. This is a not-for-profit occupation.

You must realize that you will be working with predominately Laodicean sheep. These are they who are blind, lame, wretched, miserable, poor, etc. They may think they are rich and increased with goods…but help them anoint their eyes with salve, that they may see their real condition.

Of course, there will be sheep of other eras mixed in with the Laodicean sheep. They each have their good and/or bad points. After decades of dealing with bad shepherds, hirelings, and wolves, they all need a lot of love and attention. Most likely the sheep will think they are Philadelphian sheep, and not Laodicean sheep at all.

You must be able to prove all things and hold fast to that which is good. You must not prove all things one week, and the next week prove that it was wrong, and prove something else to be right, and the next week prove that it was wrong…and each time blame God for showing you one thing to be right, and the next week showing you a different thing to be right, ad nauseam. God tends to frown upon confusion and lies and will have the Council/Board fire you posthaste.

You will not shame and humiliate the sheep. You must treat them with love and kindness. You will not rant about how abused you were by some bad shepherd, hireling, or wolf…the sheep have all had it much worse than you. A good shepherd will be able to gently and kindly rebuke and reprove, and at the same time exhort the sheep.

If you are interested in applying, say a prayer to God. Ask Him to send you to tend, love, and care for His sheep. The Council/Board and sheep will be notified and let you know if you got the job.