Tuesday, November 22, 2022

RCG: Lessons Learned by Jessica Brown

 



Lessons Learned

by Jessica Brown

 

Since leaving The Restored Church of God in August 2022, my perspective on many matters has changed. As a baptized member, I forced myself to accept whatever I heard, read, or experienced without questioning it (most of the time) because I wholeheartedly believed it was where God was working. Any doubts or concerns that came into my mind I dismissed as "of the devil." I did not want to be a doubter like Miriam and Aaron, questioning the authority of "God's leaders."

 

Little did I realize how dangerous that mindset of blind trust would become when the prophetic teachings of The Restored Church of God began to change. "The Greatest Story Never Told!" Series by Pastor General David C. Pack started in November 2015. Part 405 was delivered last week.

 

The goal of this article is to help current or former members who are struggling with their thought processes. It is not intended to force people to "see things my way" or to rip apart the members and ministry still in RCG. There are some good, kind people still attending.

 

There is a misconception in RCG that ex-members are "bitter" and "dangerous" people trying to "make members leave the Church." I firmly believe we are to “work out our own salvation with fear and trembling," and it is not my place to pressure anyone into deciding to stay or leave. I can only encourage and help guide those damaged by the prophetic confusion and chaos currently occurring within RCG.

 

Here are some lessons I have learned since departing from The Restored Church of God.

 

 

Lesson 1—Never think that teachings/decisions by church leaders should not be questioned.

 

This mindset caused a lot of The Worldwide Church of God members to spiritually stumble when some church leaders told them not to question the doctrinal changes occurring in the 1990s. It was still touted as "God's government," and people who spoke up against it would get kicked out of the Church. 

 

I recognize the act of questioning a leader must be done cautiously and respectfully, and I don't condone the "Miriam and Aaron" style of questioning. But telling people to just "sit down and shut up" and forcing the members to remain silent about their concerns is incredibly dangerous. It leaves members believing that they have to do what they are told no matter what or face the consequences, even in the face of flaming heresies.

 

This is called “obeying man rather than God.” Sadly, many in RCG have taken on this mindset, even though many have some degree of awareness that what is happening and being taught is blatantly wrong and unscriptural.

 

What makes things worse is that David C. Pack and the RCG leadership will claim that they are not doing what the WCG did in the 90s and that they have not changed the core doctrines of God or the "traditions and standards" of the Church.

 

The problem is that prophetic heresy is being woven in and passed off as "growing in grace and knowledge," similar to when WCG called their doctrinal changes "growing in grace and knowledge." Today, it is packaged as revealing The Mystery of God. It is almost the same thing; instead, it is “a falling away” from the prophetic teachings that were once taught in RCG and WCG. It was an apostasy then, and it is an apostasy now.

 

Pack even told the Church, "We have not changed one single doctrine." That is a flatly false statement.

 

We once believed that “no one knows the day and hour” of Christ's return, and the understanding was that Jesus Christ is "That Prophet" of Deuteronomy 18 and Acts 3. But now there are endless predictions of when Christ will return, and David C. Pack claims the title of Elijah, who is “That Prophet.” Not to mention changing the Father and Christ's roles and Pack seeing himself all throughout the Bible. That is far more frightening and dangerous than leaders deviating back into traditional Christianity. And this is coming from a man who is not very fond of Joseph Tkach.

 

Ultimately, the end result of both scenarios is creating an environment of fear and has led brethren into becoming content to stay where they are, even when the ship is clearly already underwater.

 

ALWAYS ask questions, and never let fear of what others may think block you from doing the right thing.

 

 

Lesson 2—Prove all things. Look into the scriptures to see if the teaching is valid.

 

Unfortunately, this is an area where I seriously failed later in my spiritual walk. When I first came into RCG, I would go into my Bible and look up each scripture listed in the RCG literature and see if the explanation was true or not. RCG actively encouraged this, and Pack often echoed Herbert W. Armstrong's words: "Do NOT believe me, BELIEVE YOUR BIBLE!" That slowly changed as DCP's sermon series continued, and things kept moving in the wrong direction. There was more emphasis on "just believing what God is revealing through His chosen apostle.”

 

Because what was being taught was so confusing, I began to become lax in studying my Bible. I questioned whether God was even with me because I struggled to understand the strange prophetic theories. It harmed my relationship with God and led me to believe He was a manipulative Being, constantly leading His "servant" into date-setting and having to change the dates when they would fail.

 

This is the "god" that Pack serves and teaches. This “god” tells people not to bother proving what you are being taught and to just "have faith" that God is leading "His apostle" to the full truth. There have been quite a few instances where Pack told the members to not open their Bibles but just listen to what he was saying.

 

Pack is not alone in this defection from truth. He has surrounded himself with enabling yes-men who perpetuate false teachings.

 

In December 2019, Edward Winkfield gave a sermon titled "Blessings—God's Quid Pro Quo.” At first, it seemed like a good message about what we can do to receive God's blessings. However, halfway through the message things took a sour turn.

 

Ed talked about how belief in Bible prophecy was tied to God's blessings and how one must be in "God's true Church" to understand it. He also talked about how one can believe what is being taught without fully understanding it.

 

He dropped a bombshell around the 45-minute mark: “Our job is not to interpret the scriptures. That's not my job. That's not your job. That's the job of an apostle (referring to DCP). Our job is to simply BELIEVE IT.”

 

...Whoa. Hold on. What?

 

First of all, no one, not even an "apostle," has the ability to "interpret the scriptures" on their own human steam. The Bible makes it very clear that no scripture is of a private interpretation. He would have been entirely correct if he had simply said none of us have that ability without God's Spirit leading us to understand the scriptures. It is through God and His SPIRIT that understanding of the scriptures can happen. Not through any human being alone. That encourages people to look to DCP as an idol, which a lot of members subconsciously do without admitting it.

 

Scriptures make clear God is not speaking through DCP because one failed prophecy makes a man a false prophet. And the trend of failed predictions has continued, thus proving that God is no longer revealing His truth through DCP.

 

The next point Ed Winkfield made is that "we are to be childlike in our belief." In other words, don't you dare question what is being taught and just sit down, shut up and be an obedient child. There is a grave danger in believing everything you are told without questioning and proving what you are hearing or reading.

 

I liken it to a parent telling a destructive lie to a child and leading them to think no harm will come to them for believing it. The biblical concept of "becoming little children" was twisted in the most deceptive way. Being "childlike" does NOT mean believing everything you are told, especially if it could harm you. 

 

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good" of 1 Thessalonians 5:21 was tossed in the trash can because everyone was told to "just believe." This encouraged members to believe a man over the plain words of God in the Bible.

 

Ed explained how people "explode with pride" when they leave RCG due to confusion about Pack’s failed prophecies. Brethren who are genuinely concerned about following something God says is wrong are labeled as "heretics…full of pride."

 

This was the sermon that left me thinking something was very wrong in RCG. But I did not have a complete awareness of just how bad it was, and unfortunately, I forced myself to "just believe it," which did me much spiritual harm.

 

There is one last quote from this sermon that I want to address. It is among one of the worst lies ever told to the RCG membership by the ministry.

 

“God is not going to fault us for believing what we have been taught.”

 

In addition to “prove all things,” the following scripture dismantles Ed’s statement and everything else mentioned in his awful sermon, which was used to prop up DCP’s prophetic teachings.

 

1 John 4:1

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

 

Do not "just believe" what you are hearing. PROVE it to determine whether it is of God or not!

 

Prove ALL things and search the scriptures to see whether those are so before letting someone encourage you to look to a man and believe everything he says over God's word.

 

 

Lesson 3—Be wary when large numbers of people leave the Church. 

 

This is a lesson I learned after carefully studying what happened in The Worldwide Church of God in the 1970s and 1990s. The 1970s was a period known as the "liberal years," where certain leaders began changing policies and watering down doctrines. They also threatened to fire any minister who reported this to Herbert W. Armstrong while he was traveling abroad. It was during this period that WCG membership stopped growing.

 

In a December 1980 Brethren and Co-Worker Letter, Mr. Armstrong mentioned that the lack of growth was a sign that God was not pleased with the Church and was not blessing it as a result.

 

In the 1990s, after core doctrines were changed, the WCG began to lose mass numbers of members. It was clear God was no longer blessing or working with that organization. Both attendance and finances experienced a catastrophic collapse.

 

Looking at the current state of RCG and how they have lost more members than they have gained reveals that something very similar is occurring now. Some congregations have lost close to half of their members, if not more. This is from personal observation, but I do not know the exact number of people leaving.

 

Anyone with eyes to see can tell that the false prophetic teachings have resulted in God's blessings being withdrawn from RCG. Recognizing that trend helped me jump off that sinking ship and spiritually clean myself up of the heresies that had stained and confused me for so long.

 

RCG claims the loss of members is a "shaking of the tree" removing "tares" from among the "wheat." It is actually quite the opposite. The accelerating loss of members is God's way of telling people to FLEE because something is VERY wrong. It is no different from what happened to WCG in the 1990s when many people departed from the organization. God did it then, and He is doing it again now.

 

So, while it is a "shaking of the tree," so to speak, it is meant to shake God's people out of the hands of a false prophet and heretic.

 

Significant loss of church membership means one thing and one thing only: the organization is under a curse, and God wants His people to GET OUT!

 

 

Lesson 4—Leaving a physical organization has no bearing on whether or not you receive eternal life.

 

Oftentimes, members will hear from DCP and the ministry that if they leave RCG, they will lose the Holy Spirit and their chance at eternal life. You will be cast into the Lake of Fire for rebellion against God. This keeps members paralyzed with fear and staying right where they are, even though RCG is now a place that God is no longer guiding.

 

I let myself get snared by these fears for a while until I began doing a deep Bible study on the subject of prophecy. God will not remove His Spirit from people for separating themselves from an organization led by a false prophet. If He did, then all of the scriptures telling His people to beware of false prophets and to not go after them would be meaningless.

 

DCP will go back and forth, claiming he is Elijah the Prophet. Then he is not. All the while continuing to set dates for Christ's return. (The latest is November 24, Thanksgiving.) This is the Biblical definition of an unsound mind. Denying you are a prophet while setting dates is deceitful and still makes you a false prophet, even according to his own literature.

 

“The heart is deceitful above all things," and this is a fine example of it. Would God punish His people for choosing to flee from someone like this?

 

The answer to this should be very clear.

 

 

Lesson 5—God comes first. No matter what.

 

Leaving RCG was not an easy decision by any means. Not only did I worry about God departing from me if I left, but I also was concerned about what others would think of me. I was apprehensive that DCP would blast me in a sermon as he has done with so many others who have left.

 

I finally got to the point where the fear of God became stronger than the fear of men. Reading through Pack’s since-removed book, "Is ‘That Prophet’ Alive Today? The Rise of False Prophets," helped me to recognize the dangers of being fearful of men.

 

Departing from RCG caused me to lose many good friends, while others have put labels on me. But it also brought the peace of God in a way I've never felt before. And that peace came immediately after praying if I had made the right decision by choosing to leave RCG. I continue to see evidence of God working with me and guiding my life. This is quite contrary to what we have all been told would happen when we leave RCG.

 

It is my hope that in the days ahead, more and more can experience the peace that comes when you choose to follow God rather than a man and that many inside RCG will see it for what it really is.

 

Until then, all I can do is exercise patience that God will soon intervene and end the confusion within the Church of God as a whole when Christ reveals Himself to the Church. 

 

May that day come soon!


Marc Cebrain

See: Lessons Learned by Jessica Brown

Sunday, November 20, 2022

LCG: Why are there so many heartless LCG members?

 

Week after week there is always something that LCG members are not doing right. Apparently this week they are unable to keep their hearts and minds focused on the "work". This has been an ongoing issue in the church since the early days of the Worldwide Church of God. There was always some reason the Big Boys found lacking in church members who were not totally engaged (i.e. sending in money). Boys and girls, get your hearts turned in the right direction and your desires will be fulfilled! Magical god will give you all you want, though for some reason it never has done so to LCG as a church.

Winnail makes the claim below that if your heart is in the "work?" you will become a godlet in the kingdom to come and reign with Christ over the rest of humankind. The trouble with his verses quoted is NONE of them say any such thing. All they say is to prepare the way. Touch the lives of people in the world and share the anticipation you have for a kingdom to come. Show mercy and grace now and it will be infectious and draw people in. Oh, wait. This is the LCG we are speaking about.

Where Is Your Heart? The Scriptures clearly reveal that God looks on the heart (1 Samuel 16:7) and that He examines and tests our hearts and minds (Psalm 7:9). Our thoughts, actions, and priorities reveal what is in our hearts. This is why Jesus said, “Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you” (Matthew 6:33). When God sees that our priorities are focused in the right direction, He will provide many of our desires—in His time and way (Mark 10:29–30). Jesus set an example of being focused on His mission of preaching the Gospel, warning the world, and preparing a people to reign with Him in the Kingdom (Mark 1:14–15; John 4:34; Luke 1:17)—and He will receive a great reward (Philippians 2:5–11). Jesus’ heart was in the Work of God! We each need to examine our priorities and ask ourselves the question, “Where is my heart?”
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail

Saturday, November 19, 2022

Dave Pack Delivers Sermon 405 - Says Sermon Series Is Over - There Will Be No 406



Final Part 405


 

Do not let the title fool you. There is no way on God’s green earth that “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 405)” is the end of the Series despite what David C. Pack may claim.

 

He urgently delivered this Livestream message on Wednesday, November 16, to the members of The Restored Church of God just in time for…nothing. Nothing has happened. Nothing is going to happen. Nothing.

 

 

For those in the audience interested in what Dave is trying to teach, a few summary snippets collected together might be helpful. But be warned, it may still give you a migraine.

 

As with all prophetic doctrines coming out of RCG, write it in pencil and have an eraser handy.

 

@ 00:03 We have some very dramatic things to learn today…we opened yesterday with clarifying “years.” Then we explained “the month” that takes you to the year. Then we raced through some verses about Elijah. We proved the Kingdom of Israel…all saints are here when it arrives.

 

@ 00:31 We began to prove that every person who ever lived is here for the Kingdom of Israel.

 

Even when I try to follow Dave, I get lost in the ever-changing time periods. Ten days. Three and a half days. Five days. Jerusalem time. Our time. He mercifully summarized the current state of things.

 

@ 1:34:57 The first Kingdom [of Israel] begins on a Thursday night [Thanksgiving]. The Kingdom of God begins on Monday morning. [Kislev 5 begins in Jerusalem at sunset, which is 9:35 a.m. EDT on Monday, November 28.]

 

@ 1:35:12 The seven-year Kingdom begins on Saturday night and Sunday [Christmas Eve].

 

The Day of the Lord begins on Christmas Eve. Remember the Jingle Bells Lake of Fire?

 

The wise shall understand, but the wicked shall not understand, I suppose.

 

Dave threw this little button in after further explanation to pour salt on the wound.

 

@ 1:36:28 Incredibly complicated, but in many ways, very simple. Elijah first. Then, a month in two phases. Elijah for days. Then, a month before the Day of the Lord. That’s the plan of God. And everything after that, it’s seven years and a thousand and eons to follow.

 

He mentioned himself in all these recaps, but not Jesus Christ. It is easy to overlook the Son of God when you are the one who will have to speak to 100 billion people within the next few days. With Dave doing so much, what is left for Jesus Christ to do, anyway?

 

@ 1:38:05 It makes perfect sense. For the first time in my 56 ½ years of studying prophecy, it all makes perfect sense. Simple.

 

 

Within that plan of God, there is a not-really-five-day period of big things that takes place before Thanksgiving.

 

@ 11:47 We're gonna have to look seriously, expansively, at what happens between now and Thanksgiving.

 

This is the “nothing” phase of Dave’s god’s plan mentioned earlier.

 

This Revelation 10:7 fulfillment already failed before I was able to transcribe it for the article. Even after opening my patio door, I cannot hear Dave shouting here in Wadsworth. Unless he is the source of that echoing "Dooh!" bouncing off the trees.

 

@ 49:38 And Satan rears back, and he [Dave, the Seventh Angel] starts working with the Laodicean era if that's what happens. If we can prove that, and I'm gonna hafta look at it, then "the days of his voice" would be five. They would be from sundown on the Sabbath in Jerusalem. Five more days until the month begins.

 

That was 9:38 a.m. EDT this morning.

 

Dooh!

    D-o-o-h!

        D--o--o--h!

            D---o---o---h!

                D----o----o----h!

 

Being one to often get in front of his own failure so he can be "right" about being wrong, Dave posted this in Member Services last night.

 

Prophecy Update – November 18, 2022

 

As stated in Part 405, the announcement period before the first Kingdom could be short.

 

God calls it: (1) “days,” (2) “about to sound,” (3) “he rushes/runs,” (4) “before (in the face of) Christ’s arrival,” and (5) only “enkindles” an old fire.

 

Mr. Pack repeated, “the shorter, the better”­! However long we wait, be ready!

 

The five-day period Dave suggested is already blown up. This means a day-by-day countdown to another failure, with a more significant failure after pumpkin pie on Thursday. Think of each day as a “Dave Mini-Failure” before the “Grand Poobah Failure” on Thanksgiving night.

 

Once the Black Friday sales are over, so is Dave’s hope for a Lake of Fire Sale on Christmas Eve.

 

Elijah is going to have to be put back in the box in order to get a refund. If you saved your receipt, Kohl’s has a “hassle-free” return policy.

 

The members of RCG are continuously in a perpetual state of “ready.” Perhaps that statement is for the doubters and fakers who have not yet signed on because the wait-and-see approach has been wildly successful thus far for 2022.

 

 

The words of David C. Pack rear up and bite David C. Pack on the backside. The sharpest tools in the shed to expose the fraudulent teachings of David C. Pack are the very words of David C. Pack. The man is his own worst enemy.

 

Combining his voice and a clock creates a powerful explosive able to break down any biblical wall he constructs. Nitroglycerin, TNT, and C4 have nothing on Dave defeating Dave.

 

Try this underhand pitch and blast it beyond the fence of center field.

 

@ 1:04:34 Five days is a lot shorter than six months. And I’m pretty sure I can prove it’s five days. If it’s not, then I don’t have any idea.

 

David C. Pack does not have any idea. A moment of sanity wafted into the Main Hall at Headquarters by accident. It was quickly shooed away by the ushers.

 

He later eroded his stance by saying he was not “absolutely certain” about it being five days. Take that for what it is worth.

 

If we teleport into the future, here is another foot-in-mouth quote you can pin to the fridge.

 

@ 1:34:37 Now, if it is not this Sabbath, I don’t understand Luke 12, Matthew 24. I don’t understand the math. And I don’t understand Zechariah or Habakkuk chapter 2. I don’t understand how all of those verses point to he's gonna speak on the Sabbath, but it isn't.

 

I fully agree with him this time. David C. Pack does not understand.

 

 

In an extraordinary moment of blindness, David C. Pack teaches about “That Prophet” in Deuteronomy 18. He reads the same verses that brethren inside The Restored Church of God get into trouble for bringing up to their local minister.

 

There is a blend of Deuteronomy 18 and Zechariah 11 in his private interpretation of the Scripture, which makes for a genuine four-alarm irony alert. 


@ 44:08 “But, the prophet which shall presume to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.” So, it goes on and says, when he rises, it sorta suggests, initially, like Moses, maybe three people who die at one month, as opposed to in one month, which would mean Jannes and Jambres and Judas would not be those three.

 

As he reads, he injects words and ideas that are not in the text because no matter what words are actually in the Bible, he feels free to add to them at will. Shamelessly right in front of open eyes. Perhaps dozing eyes.

 

From the beginning of my Christian walk, I proved that Jesus Christ is That Prophet. Dave believes it is himself when he is “raised” as Elijah. The facts he reveals point to Jesus Christ and not himself. This is by accident.

 

@ 45:01 Moses got serious pushback for quite a long time.

 

Who received more “serious pushback” than Jesus Christ? From the Pharisees. The High Priest. Satan. Judas. The Romans. Even Peter and Thomas provided a little pushback.

 

@ 45:07 And it looks like, if this man is raised like Moses, then people are gonna ask in verse 21, "and if you say in your heart, how shall we know the word which the Lord has spoken?” It’s what comes to pass and what doesn’t.

 

Dave opens the garage door, so we can all drive through. Now, a brief summary of what did not come to pass just part of this year per David C. Pack:

 

Tammuz 1  •  Tammuz 15  •  Tammuz 20  •  Av 1  •  Av 2  •  Av 3  •  Av 4  •  Av 5

Av 7  •  Av 10  •  Av 15  •  Av 20  •  Av 30  •  Elul 1  •  Elul 15  •  Elul 20  •  Elul 21

Elul 22  •  Elul 23  •  Elul 24  •  Elul 26-ish  •  Trumpets/Tishrei 1  •  Tishrei 12

Tishrei 13  •  Tishrei 15  •  Tishrei 19  •  Tishrei 20  •  Tishrei 24  •  Cheshvan 1

 

David C. Pack is a false prophet. He is a false apostle. He is a biblical fraud. The King Saul of our age. A Simon Magus for the Church of God. A man whose promises mean nothing. Regard him accordingly.

 

Dave reads the words of Deuteronomy 18 but cannot connect the obvious before his face. That is blindness that should put the fear of God in all of us.

 

@ 45:22 So, it’s like Moses…rises in an environment where it idn’t a kingdom yet.

 

Do you mean like in Judea when the Romans were in control? Dave speaks these points as if they “suggest” a future fulfillment with him, but all they do is reinforce that he took away a title from Jesus Christ and placed it upon himself.

 

 

For those wondering if Dave ever says he is in the Bible, this one is for you.

 

@ 46:40 Before Christ comes, in Isaiah 11 and verse 1, it says, "a twig goes forth”…And he’s descended from David. Now, is that me just shuttling down the street until the Series is over? Or does a twig “go forth?”

 

Yes, Dave is the twig. But as Elijah, he is also a type of John the Baptist. He covers that pretty intensely again. He speaks of the future fulfillment of this figure upon the world scene.

 

@ 1:07:58 Anybody think there’s any chance that John the Baptist…the modern version…will be called the Antichrist? Curiously, he’ll be called the Antichrist right before that man comes. And he’s gonna say, “No, I’m not.” And we’re gonna find out who the liars are and who’s not.

 

We already have a pretty good idea of who the liars are today. By their fruits, you shall know them. A tree is known by its fruit. The light shining upon the fountain of bitter water is well-exposed.

 

@ 1:13:22 “The word or utterance of God came to John, the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.” So, John received a direct word from God. I’m all ears as I read all of this.

 

This is how very different David C. Pack is from John the Baptist. Dave has received no utterance from God or an angel. He has never heard a voice or received a vision that aligns with the Bible pattern. And yet, he persists as one who thinks he is throughout your Bible.

 

No news is good news here, I suppose.

 

@ 1:16:32 So, every evidence would be that when this man [Dave] is called to God's foot, God is gonna talk to him directly and he’s gonna use a group called The Last. Well, I knew who they are.

 

And there it is. Dave is alerting the audience he is preparing to receive an utterance from God. When he hears voices, it will be a whole new ballgame, folks. If Dave starts doing miracles beyond curing a ham or turning Coke into Pepsi, know that time is short. Especially for Dennis and me.

 

The Bible will come to life in a way we have never experienced before. But not in the way Dave teaches it. Think upon his blindness to Deuteronomy 18.

 

 

Just as the summation of the Neo-Gospel was spliced together to explain the current narrative (sans Tammuz Cooking Table), here is how convinced Dave is that the seven-year Series is now over.

 

@ 00:52 The Series will be over. So, because of timing, I think we all know that this could readily be called “Final Part Number 405.”

 

@ 47:17 The Series is done. I’m just leading and building. The Series is over.

 

@ 47:33 There is no 406. There’s nothing else to talk about.

 

Professor Peabody dropped off his sermon notes to remind us why this sounds so familiar.

 

Part 12 – January 23, 2016

@ 00:42 …and I wanna make a kind of a conclusive statement. At some point, I’m gonna tell you that’s the end of the last part of the Series. A few weeks from now, I’m gonna say that…but at some point, there are no more sermons.

 

Part 200 – August 27, 2019

@ 00:02 Well, brethren, over the last nearly four years, as I introduce Part 200 that ends the Series, we’ve seen various present truths…

 

Part 284 – January 28, 2021

@ 1:07:39 So there are no more messages. I can almost make you a solemn promise.

 

David C. Pack is not a man of his word. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this. Brad? Ed? Ken? I hear crickets coming from you guys over there. Dr. Ranney has my number. Please fact-check me.

 

@ 36:26 I couldn’t have dreamed that the Mystery of God would end with such extraordinary knowledge. I could not have dreamed it. Not for seven years. What a God we serve.

 

Yeah. Just not the True God. Not the God of the Bible. Not the real Father and not the true Jesus Christ. But that is only a minor detail.

 

Nothing will happen this weekend. Nothing will happen on Thanksgiving. Nothing will happen on Christmas because God is not guiding David C. Pack to teach this nonsense.

 

What will happen is more excuses and more clarifications.

 

God will fulfill His word in His own time. But not as David C. Pack teaches.

 

Do not let the title fool you. This is not the final part.


Marc Cebrian

See: Final Part 405

10th Anniversary of the Conviction of Ron Wienland - The First COG Leader Convicted As A Felon And Sent To Prison


It is hard to believe that it has been 10 years since Ron Weinland was convicted in District Court for felony tax evasion of approx $245,000.00.

False Prophet Ronald Weinland Don't Drink the Flavor Aid Served Up by False Prophets followed closely the trial of Weinland and exposed how money was being siphoned off for the Weinland family to use.

The website states:

District Judge Danny Reeves pronounced sentence on False Prophet Ronald Weinland this morning:A sentence of 42 months, Ron to self report to prison on January 2.
  • Followed by 3 years of supervised release
  • A fine of $7,500
  • Restitution in the amount of the criminal tax loss, approximately $245,000

The judge and attorneys discussed the following:

The first part of the hearing discussed the tax loss calculation of $245K. The defense attempted to reduce that below $200K which would reduce the sentence by 6-8 months. One part of that was $95K of Laura’s travel expenses which the defense argued should be deductible. The prosecution countered that this would require a trip by trip analysis to see whether Laura’s contribution was substantial, and then they would subject all of Ron’s travels to the same scrutiny which could result in an increase in the loss calculations. 
 
The other part was the $290K deposited in the Swiss bank accounts, which the defense alleged was being held in trust for the church. The prosecution pointed out that the expenses were being held for the Two Witnesses to use in the end times for lodging, travel, etc. 
 
After that discussion, the tax loss calculation of $245,176 held.

Then the following was discussed:

Next was discussed the two-level enhancement for Sophisticated Means. The defense argued that the Swiss bank accounts were not sophisticated as fund were wire transferred, and Ron did not keep two sets of books. The prosecution argued that Ron over a long period of time structured his church so that he had sole legal control as the only board member of the corporation and sole spiritual control in his position directly below God and Jesus and being their spokesman. Ron set up multiple church bank accounts and multiple personal bank accounts and multiple credit cards. With his legal and spiritual control total and without government oversight of church activities there was no one to put the brakes on his activities. When the defense pointed out that most transactions were legitimate church expenses, the judge likened his tax evasion to hiding a needle in a haystack, further indication of sophisticated means. That two-level enhancement remained. 

I love the fact that the claimed he was the leader of a criminal organization.  Best description of many COG's ever!

Next was discussed a two-level enhancement for Aggravate Role as the leader of a criminal organization. The government corrected the defenses statement that it was meant to apply to the church, rather it was meant to apply to the Weinland family. The judge responded that he regarded Ron and Laura as equal participants in the scheme and Audra as not having criminal intent. So there was no enhancement for this.

They next looked at "obstruction" by Weinland where he paid for his son's "education" with church money.

The last enhancement was two levels for obstruction. This remained, as the judge said that Ron perjured himself about material matters during his testimony when: 
  • He stated that he did not intend to file false tax returns
  • When he claimed the church funds directly paying for Jeremy’s education were a church scholarship program.

Ron choking his chicken. AC days.

The court also discussed how Weinland manipulated members into giving money to him. Remember. Boys and Girls, once you write that check it is God's money and you do not need to worry about it! How many times have we heard the crooks in the pulpit say that?

McBride stated that the government did not question the sincerity or validity of the religious beliefs of the rank and file PKG members who wrote letters on Ron’s behalf. But Ron exploited them with complete control and with his financial activity invisible except for the false W-2s filed. The members would not question Ron. 
 
He cited the letter on page 153 of the filing I provided in a previous posting. The woman who was given $1000 for medical expenses and later $2000 for other reasons was not given Ron’s money — it was the church’s money. Ron used the doctrine of tithing to extract money from members and taught that once given to God the member had no responsibility.

Weinland, like most COG leaders, try and pass off their mistakes as "unintended". The judge was not buying that excuse:

The judge did not believe that Ron’s behavior was an unintended mistake. Referring to the 169 letters, he indicated that they influenced him to impose the 42-month sentence at the bottom end of the 41-51 month range of the sentencing guidelines. It seems that by imposing restitution of the $245176 amount, he shut the door on the IRS going after Ron on a civil basis for those years. The fine imposed of $7500 is also at the low end of the sentencing guidelines. There is an additional assessment of $500 for the guilty verdict.

In an ultimate slam to the false prophet Ron, the judge sentences him to 3 1/2 years of prison time. The best actual fulfillment of prophetic numerology ever!


Also, see:

Ron Weinland, Convicted Felon, is Asking Church Members To Try and Influence Judge With Letters



Ron Weinland Jurors: The Gift That Keeps On Giving





















UCG Randy Stiver Weighs In On Certain American Holidays


 Randy Stiver has weighed in on certain American holidays and whether or not they are kosher for REAL Church of God members celebrating. Why any ministers feels his opinions on these days are important has always been a question many members asked themselves. Most sat there in church and listen to this drivel and then went out and celebrated those days and even spent time with family at Christmas. Most of these are federal holidays and in this day and age are nothing more than bank holidays.



WHAT IS AMERICA’S BEST HOLIDAY…and WHY?

A commentary by Randy Stiver (11-18-2022)

The U.S.A. has an official listing of its federal holidays (10 in all). But from the perspective of God’s Word and way, which of the 10 is America’s BEST holiday? Let’s review and weigh each one while striving to see it as Jesus Christ sees it.

Official U.S. Federal Holidays (according to days given off work):

New Year’s Day – January 1. 

New Year’s Day was a commonly celebrated holiday in ancient Rome—but it was very distinctly not a true Christian day of celebration. The Roman celebrations were typically drunken, adulterous festivals celebrating Roman, pagan deities. Drunken immorality is profoundly not the conduct of true and faithful followers of Jesus Christ.

PAGAN DEBAUCHERY!!!!!!!!! When UCG had a big presence in the Pasadena area they took full advantage of New Year's activities with the Rose Parade and earned money for their local churches by ushering, parking cars, and selling programs and concessions.

Stiver fails to mention how the Feast of Tabernacles has always been a time of drunkenness, gluttony, and immortality of the true and faithful followers of Jesus Christ (Armstrongite era). Around Feast time certain exCOG groups on Facebook are filled with stories of people about their Feast flings. For many years I worked in the Ministerial dining room at Pasadena's Feast site. The alcohol flowed there like I have never seen in a restaurant or bar. It was amazing to watch certain high-ranking ministers (most of whom went with UCG) get so plastered in one hour that they needed help to walk out the door.

Martin Luther King’s Birthday – the 3rd Monday in January.   

Dr. King was a courageous man of his time. He helped forge an increased level of freedom under the law for vastly more Americans directly and in principle. Recognizing and valuing great leaders of the nation is worthwhile and important but valuing the Word of God is of even greater importance.

Meh! OK to do if you want 

Washington’s Birthday – the 3rd Monday in February

Speaking of courageous men of their times, George Washington became the legendary “father of our country”! The historic, American system of law and governmental function ensuring “freedom for all” was begun during his service as the nation’s first president. He was a great leader, but the day of his birth is still not remotely of the magnitude to be the nations’ greatest holiday.

Meh! OK to do if you want  

Memorial Day – the last Monday in May

Memorial Day began in 1868 on May 30th in the aftermath of the Civil War Between States which claimed more American lives than any conflict in its history. Originally called “Decoration Day,” the observance was later moved to the last Monday in May. Remembering one’s national history and ancestors who forged the path for us today is typically a good thing. On the other hand, if a people ignore the troubled times in their history and the right principles and values they and their ancestors have stood for, then they will also soon forget who they are. Identity is forged in remembering. But God has even greater things for us to remember!

Meh! OK to do if you want. 

Juneteenth National Independence Day – June 19

Rooted in the end of slavery in America at the close of the Civil War between the States, this recently added national holiday is a day of celebrating the freedoms proclaimed in the Emancipation Proclamation. Freedom is a wonderful thing to be treasured by all. And yet, we must always remember the source of true freedom comes through Jesus Christ of the Bible—the true Savior of all mankind.

Meh! OK to do if you want  

Independence Day – July 4

Of all the holidays on this list, Independence Day in America is perhaps the most quintessential. It heralds the nation’s freedom and independence from national oppression.

Of course, this is the PERFECT time to drag out the myth of British Israelism.  

In the Bible Joseph’s two sons Ephraim and Manasseh were prophesied to inherit phenomenal world greatness. Firstborn son Manasseh’s descendants in the end time of this world’s history would become the greatest single nation in world history. The United States of America has fulfilled that prophecy. Joseph’s second born son Ephraim was to become the world’s greatest “company of nations.” The British with its now past but great empire fulfilled that prophecy (see Genesis 48).

American Independence Day marks the separation to the two phenomenal destinies of America and Great Britain.

Maybe Meh! but ok to enjoy and the fireworks are pretty. 

Labor Day – 1st Monday in September

The proverb says, “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going” (Ecclesiastes 9:10). Jesus backed that prophecy up with His own words, “…My Father has been working until now, and I have been working” (John 5:17). A holiday that celebrates good, hard work—especially the direct and specific work of God is worth valuing very highly!

Laborers in the Church are always worthy of being praised, how else would the church get its money? 

Columbus Day – 2nd Monday in October

When Christopher Columbus sought sail across the sea, he may well have realized that he sailed in the wakes of Jean Cabot under an English flag, Eric the Red and other Vikings, a fair number of adventurous Irish, not to mention King Solomon’s navy of about 1000 B.C. However, in modern times Columbus received the largess of the credit for discovering America.

Meh! OK to do if you want. but reeks of colonialism for many. 

Veterans’ Day – November 11

Likely every nation has such a day of remembrance for their young citizens who gave their lives defending their homeland. The irony of God’s children in one place striving to destroy God’s children in another place is profoundly sad commentary on the history of mankind from the Garden of Eden forward. But such has always been ever since the tragedy of Cain murdering his brother Able (see Genesis 4:1-15).

However, the sadness of war more significantly devolves from the pre-Adamic rebellion of the arch-angel Lucifer against God’s plan and divine rule. Satan and his followers (the one-third of the angels who rebelled and became demons) attacked God’s faithful angels led by the member of the Godhead we know now as Jesus Christ. On God’s own sacred calendar the spiritual holyday Day of Atonement marks that ancient tragedy (see Isaiah 14:12-21; Ezekiel 28:11-19).

Meh! OK to do if you want. Even though we are pacifists we do enjoy watching evil countries get their asses kicked. 

Thanksgiving Day – 4th Thursday in November

Credited to the Pilgrims of Massachusetts in the days of the Plymouth Colony (1660s) when they dined with the native American tribesmen. For the Pilgrims it was a day of thanksgiving for a safe journey to the New World. For the tribesmen it was a peaceful greeting to the newcomers. The modern world’s greatest nation the United States grew from that event. Thanksgiving Day’s true fame comes from the expressions of profound thanks to God for the pilgrims’ safe journey across the sea and for the peaceful reception by the local tribesmen already in North America. O that America and all the nations could just keep that peace! Under Christ and the resurrected saints’ Millennial rule they finally will!

SUPERFANTABULOSO!!!!!!!!!! WOO HOO! Use this as a day to celebrate your soon-coming power to rule nations! WOO HOO! Jesus can't rule in the Millenium without your help!

Christmas Day – December 25

This is the supposed day of Jesus Christ’s human birth. However, it’s not only the wrong date—it’s also in the wrong season of the year in ancient Judaea. Winter in both ancient and modern Israel (or Palestine as the Romans called it) was and is a cold season. Shepherds have their sheep in barns at night and they themselves at home in warm beds during the winter. Therefore, the shepherds of the time of Christ would have been out with their flocks during the warmer nights of autumn—but not in mid-winter!

That places the human birth of Christ in the September—October time frame and not in December. The Bible is divinely silent on the exact date, but the season would have had to have been autumn. Jesus Christ knew His mission and His great love for all God’s children. His first coming was to live a perfect life (without sin) and ultimately die for the sins of all humankind—thus providing them the calling to know of and to accept that sacrifice and ultimately be resurrected to live forever in the eternal Kingdom of God.

PAGAN! SATURNALIA!!!!! EVIL!! SATANIC!!! NIMROD!!!! Besides, EVERYONE who is a REAL Christian knows that Jesus was born in the fall time. But we don't really care and that's why we always book Family Winter Weekend in resorts bedecked with holiday cheer with gloriously decorated Christmas trees, Santas, holiday foods, and wonderful music blasting in our ears as we sit around clicking our tongues at all of the paganism and how deceived the poor fools are that are enjoying those sights.

And now America’s Best Holiday selection…

True freedom comes through the spiritual leadership of Jesus Christ. In the inspired words of the Apostle Paul, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage” (Galatians 5:1). So, which is America’s (or any nation’s) best holiday?

The answer is that none of America’s holidays equate to God’s holy days which are specifically listed in Scripture. However, one holiday more closely harmonizes with the principles of God’s truth in true Christianity—and that would be Thanksgiving Day. “Sing praise to the Lord, you saints of His, / And give thanks at the remembrance of His holy name” (Psalm 30:4).

Remember its true, spiritual roots, and have a blessed and happy Thanksgiving 2022!