At least according to Apostle Malm.
He is none too happy with Merritt's book called "When Does Human Life Begin?"
The main issue being promoted by the Merritt book is that life does not begin until implantation and that if there is no implantation of a fertilized egg there is no life. This is the premise that all the fancy Latin and involved explanations are designed to support.
The point of this position [no life before implantation] is to justify certain birth control devices; and to justify in vitro fertilization and the destruction of “extra” fertilized eggs. This argument is used to justify the abomination of harvesting eggs and fertilizing them, then choosing one or two and destroying the rest.
To begin with and completely outside the issue of the beginning of life, is the simple fact that this is adultery and illicit sex; without the natural act of intercourse, but illicit sex just the same!
For a woman to allow the removal of some of her eggs and then to have an anonymous “donor” contribute his sperm is a shocking abomination! It is illicit sex without face to face intercourse between the two.
Then, The Apostle get's into some more rules and regulations for unclean women:
The argument is made in the book that many fertilized cells are simply not implanted and are flushed out of the body. This is seen to bolster the argument that life does not begin until implantation. First, this issue is greatly exaggerated by the medical community because it is self serving to do so. Second, this argument actually ignores a specific command of God which completely reverses this argument.
God commands in Lev 15 that sexual activity must be avoided from the first onset of menstruation for a full seven days. This command is given because of the obvious issue of cleanliness and uncleanness, but it also prevents the fertilizing of the egg as it passes through the uterus!
Only TRUE CONVERTED MEN who will avoid menstruating women will be made RIGHTEOUS before God!
Avoiding a menstrual woman is one of the commands that makes a man righteous before God; and will bring the gift of life to him! Please study this list, as it reveals very much about true conversion and the way to life eternal
The next thing you know The Apostle will be requiring the women in his cult to wear red bracelets to let everyone know they are having their period !
How long will it take before The Apostle starts advocating menstruation huts?
You can read the rest of The Apostle's screed here: When Does Human Life Begin? by J L. Merritt, M.D. & J. Lawrence Merritt, M.D
Adultery in the good ol' Bible had less to do with romance than it did with property rights and a man having the ability to identify his legitmate offspring, sooz some other child, not his, didn't get his stuff.
ReplyDeleteWe are told not to covet a mans ox, mule or woman. All are property unless one wishes to make the ox and mule equal to the wife, which could be risky in a happy home.
In the good ol' Bible days, only the woman's absolute ability to prove children were those of her husband kept her alive. Thus, the harsh rules for and death for adultery. A good public stoning worked like the best birth control and "that baby is my husband's" you can imagine.
Men of course were not subject to these rules as the women had no issues with inheritances. He could have all the kids by all the women he wanted. You just can't steal another man's property.
In the New Testament, a deacon or elder had to be the husband of ONE wife. Others had several but he had to rise above this to be an elder or deacon. It does not mean they had to have a wife. It means they only could have ONE in a culture where a few was ok.
The original reasons for Priestly singleness had to do with inheritance as well and little to do with holy righteous chasity for Jesus. Priests stole, I mean got a lot of stuff from parishinors along the way in life and the RCC was not about to let it all go to the wifey. Soooooo, no dating!
Anyway....Human life, in fact, begins the moment the person can pry himself free from any COG splinter or sliver...
M.T.Eggcartons
"For a woman to allow the removal of some of her eggs and then to have an anonymous “donor” contribute his sperm is a shocking abomination! It is illicit sex without face to face intercourse between the two."
ReplyDeleteDon't the egg and sperm have to face each other to unite??? Seems good enough.
The truth of God's word is that God ordered many abortions in the battles between His Chosen abortionists and the pagans. Pregnant women had their wombs opened by the sword and then killed. The issue was that it was ok to do this to gentile types and not each other. Thou shalt not kill meant each other, or I don't understand the Old Testament conquests.
In the Bible, as long as the child was actually born it was really ok to kill it if not of the chosen race. All bets are off when the babies not Israel but a round Israel are actually born.
Malm needs Meds
M.T.Uterus
WTF??????????? I have never understood why so many men in Armstrongism are such ignorant morons! I feel sorry for Malm's wife and the struggle she must go through with all his rules. I can guarantee you that she has more rules placed upon her than he places upon himself. Women are chattel in the COG. Something to be used for ones pleasure and to dominate.
ReplyDeleteFoul mouth Sharon is typical of many of the apostate women in the Church of God today. You are wearing the pants in the families, you speak in from of other men as teachers, you raise rebellious children because you are out working and not at home raising them as REAL CHRISTIAN women do. You have become Jezebel's in God's sight!
ReplyDeleteIt's God's Plan Poopyhead!
ReplyDeleteIn chapter 2 of Rick Warren's The Purpose Driven Life, we read...
"Because God made you for a reason, he also decided when you would be born and how long you would live. He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. The Bible says, "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16]
Take a moment and think about the Bible says, it said, "He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death."
Let's examine one simple implication of this statement.
What this means is that God has pre-planned every abortion that has taken place on our planet.
If the concept of "God's plan" is true, you can first of all see that God wants us to be aborting children. Every single abortion is planned by God, so God must be doing it for a reason.
Second, you can see that both the mother who requests the abortion and the doctor who performs it are blameless. Since it is God who planned the abortion of the child (God chose the "exact time" of the death, according to Rick Warren), the mother and doctor are simply puppets who are fulfilling God's plan, are they not?
What about all the Christians who are fighting against abortion? If abortion is part of God's plan, why are they fighting it? God is the all-powerful ruler of the universe, and his plan is for more than a million children a year to die in the United States through abortion. [ref] If God's plan is true, then each one of those abortions was meticulously planned by God.
If God does not intend for us to perform abortions, is Rick Warren then wrong that God has a plan? If God has a plan, is he not the direct cause of every abortion? Simply think it through, and you will begin to see the problems in Rick's proposition.
If God has this all planned as we read in scripture, why pray, fast, ask, resist, overcome or anything else that would thwart the plan of God already knowing the day of our birth and death?
If we are conceived on a Saturday night and die on a Friday afternoon a few weeks later, it's all good....
It's all in the plan!
M.T.Clinics
(Source-God Is Imaginary)
Listen Sweetheart.....I have no time for emasculated men that seem to dominate the Churches of God. If some of you wimps would grow a pair, your wives might respect you. Why not go and worship at the feet of Super Dude Meredith. He is your gold standard for masculinity, is he not?
ReplyDeleteSharon said...
ReplyDelete"WTF??????????? I have never understood why so many men in Armstrongism are such ignorant morons!"
MY COMMENT: Why do you think we were there?
"I feel sorry for Malm's wife and the struggle she must go through with all his rules. I can guarantee you that she has more rules placed upon her than he places upon himself. Women are chattel in the COG. Something to be used for ones pleasure and to dominate."
MY COMMENT: Do you really think that this ignorant moron is married? If he is, which is very doubtful(I'd be willing to bet he isn't), I'm sure his cow wears a veil, a muzzle, and a chastity belt..
A Called Out One said...
ReplyDelete"Foul mouth Sharon is typical of many of the apostate women in the Church of God today. You are wearing the pants in the families, you speak in from of other men as teachers, you raise rebellious children because you are out working and not at home raising them as REAL CHRISTIAN women do. You have become Jezebel's in God's sight!"
MY COMMENT: Let's see...I guess all of that is better than what the mousy women of the COGs have become, listening to their moron husbands and the asshole "ministers" who have caused many break-ups in families, rebellious children, poor and destitute families who have to pay "first, second, third tithes and offerings", who have made hypocrites of the sons and daughters of hell that continue to follow them, all in the name of gawd, taking his name in vain!
Hmmmmm.....
ReplyDeleteI think it is an abomination that GTA impregnated women and then him and his honchos counseled them to get abortions and keep everything under wraps.
The legacy of Herbie's "church" is indeed an abomination.
Called out Fool said:
ReplyDelete"Foul mouth Sharon is typical of many of the apostate women in the Church of God today..."
I'm going to suggest you apologize to Sharon who you don't know and whose experience you have not had or perhaps we can get your self righteous ass blocked for a time until you can watch your self righteous mouth.
It is your type that makes critically thinking people hate what the Bible does to people.
Apologize or leave
WTF means "Wonderfully Tough Female" however for you we can make an exception...
How about the regulars here? Is the Holy Righteous One allowed to stay or does he need a vacation until he learns speaking here is a priviledge and not a given.
Perhaps for a time we can change "The Called Out One," to "The Culled Out One," until he learns to love as Jesus, or "Christ" as I am sure he would prefer would behave towards a Jezebel!
ReplyDeleteM.T.Cranium
It is hard for me to block people who post anonymously. I was not next to my computer this afternoon so could not delete his remarks. I am tempted to leave them up for all the world to see what kind of fools the COG/Armstrongism has produced, unless you all think I should delete it. I have delete a couple of other peoples post a while back because of thier hatefulness. What say ye?
ReplyDeleteForgive him...it will drive him nuts.
ReplyDeleteIf he gets mad at us, he has to forgive us because , well you know, he has to...
My father used to say, "You can learn more from one bad example than from twelve good ones."
ReplyDeleteMy father, a dedicated follower of HWA was wrong about most things; however, I have always thought that motto was pretty good. So I'd say leave anonymous alone. We can learn a lot from him.
If he wants to show his ignorance by commenting like he has, let him. He's not going to get anywhere against common sense.
ReplyDeleteIt's not my problem you cannot handle the truth! We are called to "spare not" the message of God so I don't care if you are offended or not.
ReplyDeleteOnly God's true remnant has the REAL Word of God today.
All that I see here are heretics and apostates. Even the few who claim to follow Jeebus and who promote the license to sin with all that warm Jeebus love means you refuse to keep the laws of God.
You are all reprobates and losers.
Women belong in the home and not leading men around or teaching them.
By the way, there is nothing wrong with Mr. Meredith. He has set the standard for all of us to follow. As he follows God so shall we!
I say leave the comments as is unless they get too foul. Baiting should be ignored and ignoring foolishness is good practice for us all.
ReplyDeleteThe only ones that deserve time and attention are the ones that can carry on a civil discourse even if we disagree.
All others should be treated like the ill mannered children they are.