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Thursday, December 1, 2011
Windstorm In Southern CA
There have been no posts for the last couple of days because of the hurricane force winds we had here. The San Gabrie Valley was hardest hit. Pasadena has over 40 homes and apartment buildings that are red tagged. Power has been off in many areas since 8:00 Wednesday night. Power in some areas is supposed to come on Thursday night around midnight. For others, this area included it may be Saturday before power is restored.
One crackpot Armstrongist wrote me and said that this area no longer had God's protection because the WCG sold the property out from under God who no longer had a home here. I am sure it will not be long till Flurry or Meredith start talking about how this is prophecy in action. I am suffering from COG withdrawl!
Unfortunately, the "God controls the weather," thing is a favorite tool of the God Haunted and ignorant.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if God controls the weather on Mars or Venus? And if so, why? Maybe they are like those isolated and uninhabited islands that get nuked and bombed for practice?
Also, we're going to have to get our story straight. If wind, rain, fire, quakes and sword hit Pasadena, to some it is God's work for foreclosing on his home. For others, however, it is Satan attacking his true people who live there.
God? Satan? Which?
Neither actually... Mostly high and low pressure, tectonic plates, folks living in bushes that burn like tires and seasons.
Glad you are ok there NO2.
If this happened in Oklahoma, it probably would be Satan attacking PCG. (Or at least PCG probably would tell you that.)
ReplyDeleteBut hold on -- wouldn't PCG be tracing these Santa Ana winds to 1979? Not 1994-95?
My sister, who lives in El Monte, had no great damage in her area, but they took a drive into Pasadena where they used to live yesterday afternoon and found a maze of blocked and closed streets.
ReplyDeleteThe area is a mess which will take days, if not weeks, to clean up. Many of the magnificent old trees and palms are now candidates for firewood and some of them are in the middle of expensive homes and cars, etc.
More fodder for the wild-eyed fanatics who see spirits behind everything physical that happens. If it can happen, you can wager that it eventually will happen.
Sorry to hear of the destruction in the area.
ReplyDeleteHopefully, things will be cleaned up and repaired as soon as possible.
"One crackpot Armstrongist wrote me and said that this area no longer had God's protection because the WCG sold the property out from under God who no longer had a home here."
God no longer has a home there? I thought God had divine omnipresence.
Maybe God can go spend time in Boca Raton. The weather there is nice this time of year. Plus, if God hangs out with the retirees in Boca Raton, maybe He'll get the good idea to retire from His smiting ways.
Why does God throw those childish violent temper tantrums; with so much colleteral damage?
Maybe it's bad aim.
I mean, when God threw this latest temper tantrum in the Pasadena area, did it even come close to harming Joe Tkach Jr?
When God threw His temper tantrum in New Orleans, did it kill the homosexuals there?
Or, maybe God can take a hint from His kid Jesus about that forgiveness stuff, and ease up on all the smiting.
Especially since He has such bad aim.
No wonder he needed the Israelites to throw little children against rocks for Him. He would probably have missed the rocks and thrown them onto mossy areas by mistake.
Bad aim.
Heck, even His nemesis Allah seems to have better aim than He does.
He's jealous, like a little league pitcher who's jealous of other pitchers who have better aim.
Norm
"Why does God throw those childish violent temper tantrums; with so much colleteral damage?"
ReplyDeleteFundamentalist Christian: God's Ways are mysterious and not to be questioned. However, God is probably punishing a sinful world. No one is without sin. If Believers are hurt in the process though, then God is teaching them some sort of lesson that will be explained in the World Tomorrow or Heaven.
Enlightened Christian: God's Ways are mysterious and unfathomable. But why concentrate on matters that can only detract from the most important issue: Your Personal Relationship With God.
Really Enlightened Cherry Picking Christian: Only those poor, ignorant, wacked out Fundamentalists believe that God controls the weather. We know better, and we also know that God is love and is bigger than natural disasters or divine punishment. Personal Relationship with God.
Paul Ray
"One crackpot Armstrongist wrote me and said that this area no longer had God's protection because the WCG sold the property out from under God who no longer had a home here."
ReplyDeleteI had to chuckle over that one. I don't believe there is a god to worry about a little piece of planet earth to begin with. However, if there were, since when does the owner of all the magnificent universe have to be concerned over a gaudy bauble like HWA's "house for god."
Let's get real here! It was a house for Herb's ego -- nothing more, nothing less. I'll grant you it was impressive, but I don't miss it, and I'm certain any all-powerful deity wouldn't miss it either.
While I'm still here, I try to keep up and improve my little quarter acre of homestead, but it's just a small piece of physical earth and not all that important in the grand scheme of life and history. Neither was Ambassador College. Most of the population of the earth is totally unaware that it ever existed.
We were so sure it would exist into "the world tomorrow." And, we'd all be there to spread it around the world as a blessing (?) to humanity. Wha hoppen?
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ReplyDeleteand too....hot air has been blowing out of Southern Caliornia in many forms for many decades
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M.T.Pews
Grab a camera and give us a tour of Pasadena.
ReplyDeleteGod is not the micromanager that the culties believe Him to be. Basically, He set up all of the long range cycles, including the evolutionary ones, and they effect all people alike. What happened in Southern California is that the wind blew. That's all. It is very egocentric and self-righteous for any cultic group spawned by false teachers to believe that God centers his activities around their own little distortion of Christianity. That would be one of the primary symptoms of legalism, one shared with the ancient Pharisees. Basically, God is within all who love Him, and simply provides the reinforcement to deal with the natural cycles which are part of His will, raining on the just and the unjust alike.
ReplyDeleteProbably many of His followers will be joining in the cleanup efforts now going on in the San Gabriel valley. They will sacrifice their time to unselfishly do this, and will probably be thankful for an opportunity to be part of the solution, easing the burden of others as Jesus Himself did. However, we know that most of those infected with Armstrongism have embedded programming which would not allow for them to assist those outside of their own little group, and who will joyously interpret this all as yet another sign that the tribulation has started. That, unfortunately, suffices as spiritual enlightenment for the remnants of HWA's pitiful empire. Frankly, the many non-believers who will be assisting in the cleanup are more in tune with the real teachings of Jesus than this!
BB
BB,
ReplyDeleteYou wrote: "...Basically, God is within all who love Him, and simply provides the reinforcement to deal with the natural cycles which are part of His will, raining on the just and the unjust alike.
Probably many of His followers will be joining in the cleanup efforts now going on in the San Gabriel valley. They will sacrifice their time to unselfishly do this, and will probably be thankful for an opportunity to be part of the solution, easing the burden of others as Jesus Himself did. However, we know that most of those infected with Armstrongism have embedded programming which would not allow for them to assist those outside of their own little group, and who will joyously interpret this all as yet another sign that the tribulation has started..."
Where did that "embedded programming" come from, BB?
You said that God, who we know is a spirit Being, is: "...within all who love Him..."
Is that "embedded programming" some sort of spiritual thing too?
I don't know if you had any particular verse come to mind, but James tells us that something else is going on inside of true Christians: fellow sealed Firstfruits like James was:
"...The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?" James 4:5
Is that the "embedded programming" you had in mind? With lust? And envy? Something that sounds like of god: of Satan, another spirit being?
Is "embedded programming" the reason that Paul would tell us the following?
Romans 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Yes, he knew about sin dwelling in him and evil being present with him...even when good was done.
By their fruits/works you know them. I think there is something to that "embedded programming" you speak of. Who would have "thunk it?"
Actually, I know there are people who for years have considered that "other spirit" of James 4:5 to be like an embedded "computer chip" that causes bad programming in one's life. It is more the "lauguage of the day," our day after all, what did James and Paul ever know about computers, chips and solid-state devices.
It appears that the fruits/works displayed by individuals will depend upon which spirit is doing the most overcoming/overwhelming of the other spirit in one's life.
Anyway, I found it interesting that you used that phrase "embedded programming."
Thanks for sharing...
John
"Where did that "embedded programming" come from, BB?"
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, I think Bob was referring to evolutionary programming having to do with biological altruism and <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110317102552.htm>intergroup bias</a>. Your conjecture about spirits, while interesting from an anthropological perspective, suffers from a severe lack of any testable hypotheses.
Oops. Here's that link on the evolution of intergroup bias for those who are interested.
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