Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Aaron Dean on "The Sign"


"...we do have a respect for HWA that was often missing by some who have left."
(talk abut taking the knife and sticking it in COGWA's ribs and twisting it!)

You all know that I believe what I was taught by HWA. I helped write his books and was trained in all his schools, 12 years of Imperial, 4 years of Ambassador and 12 years with him. I treasure the time I spent with him and the many lessons in faith. He made me promise to help prepare the bride and continue the work. I have hoped and prayed every day that this world would end and have tried to encourage brethren. My greatest fear is that Christ would tell me that I buried my talent and didn'd contnue to do what he taught me to do. 

While there is no Question that God used HWA powerfully in building the endtime church and reaching the world, he himself told me we should keep on with all the energy and power we can give. If we do not fellowship or help one another, how can we grow spiritually?  If we don't have a cause greater than ourselves to give to, how will God judge us?  I asked HWA in his final weeks if we should stop preaching the Gospel when he died. He said "no" because there was no place in scripture that said when he died that the work was over. (Remember, he picked the telecastor's that would replace him - something he wouldn't have done if it 'was over.)  He knew there would be a falling away. He told me people would quit keeping the Sabbath and quit tithing. He knew there would be men who would seek power and start their own churches if they couldn't be in charge. He knew many things would stop, but he didn't want us to be the cause of stopping it. The spiritual body should go on. Christ is still alive.  We are still judged by what we do with what we have. That doesn't change.

I attend with UCG because God hasn't named a replacement for HWA. We are not to forsake fellowship and I do believe many of God's children are here. Christ is the head of the church and always had been - HWA taught me that in no uncertain terms.  Sadly we have had men who thought they should be in charge to the point that they started their own churches to be in charge. God hates division, and I pray for those who have done this, especially since they lied and caused great damage to the brethren of God on their way out and since. They have taught others to follow them, not Christ.  The splintering has also hurt the power of the Holy people-the spiritual body. I wonder if this is what God fortold through Daniel.  I am happy in UCG, because for the 1st time I feel we have men who are yielding to God for direction and not to themselves. We have few assets and little strength, but we do have a respect for HWA that was often missing by some who have left. I know, because past men asked me not to speak about HWA. They wanted to build their own names. We also try to respect others of like belief who do not attend with us. God knows his sheep.

It was obvious God used HWA, and following him was to follow Christ as he taught us. I pray the 2 witnesses appear on the scene soon. This country has so forsaken God in every way. We all need each other for encouragement and hope. HWA wanted the members to stay together, as only with a common cause can we provide local churches for fellowship, and feast sites with which to worship God together.  While this HWA film evokes so many fond memories, I pray it doesn't make anyone complacent that they can sit on their talents and expect God to be happy with that. HWA would never condone sitting at home alone if there were members to fellowship with. He even sent the young men on baptizing tours to fellowship with Sardis. It will be a sad day when everyone sits at home by themselves with no one to fellowship and no greater work going on to help educate the world as to God's way of life.

I pray for all of you.  HWA did finish his work God had for him to do, but 26 years later, if all we have done is hold on to our talent, then what will Christ have to say to us. HWA would be mad at me if I stopped trying to do the work of God. I will talk about the Kingdom of God till my last breath, and serve God's people as I am able. It is often discouraging, as I am sure it was for a young John Mark or Timothy, in watching Paul's death, or Policratees and Polycarp who tried to uphold the Apostle John's teaching as apostacy jumped in.  May we all hold to the truth of God and be using what talents and tithes we have, and be judged worthy to escape what his soon to come.  I wish I could fellowship with you all.

With Deepest Respect for all,
Aaron Dean

11 comments:

  1. Obviously Aaron is sincere, but just as obviously, he is still indoctrinated.

    I wonder how he deals internally with the fact that HWA did select Joseph W. Tkach Sr. as his successor. (not that I believe there even was a mantle to be passed, but surely this must have meaning to those who believe that HWA was of God)

    BB

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  2. While there is no Question that God used HWA powerfully in building the endtime church and reaching the world...

    Uh, I question that statement. I don't see any evidence of either one of these premises; that God used HWA or that it was the endtime church. Time should have ended before the church did, shouldn't it? Besides that, I think HWA used God instead of the other way around.

    In fact, I think every preacher is using God instead of the other way around. I haven't seen anyone prove any different from that and I haven't seen any followers become "perfected" either.

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  3. First of all, it would be nice for Aaron to explain what he was doing with that spy equipment on A.C. Campus with his brother Kevin.

    Next, if God hates divisions so much, why would He support Herbert Armstrong to split with the CoG7D with his proveably wrong heresy of British Israelism? That's pretty rude and it makes no sense to say that God would support a man who did such a thing.

    If we believe in such things, it's clear that Satan used HA (no W, unless it stands for "W"olf) powerfully in his work of lies and deceptions. The immorality of the WCG (and now the ACoGs) is a wonder to have beheld.

    The WCG certainly was the end time church -- the end time of Armstrongism.

    Finally, the sign... the sign:

    STOP!

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  4. "While there is no Question that God used HWA powerfully in building the endtime church" [corporation]...

    Yes, there is no Question that god used a child molester to build a large, powerful, and totally corrupt corporate church empire. I guess where the Questions arise is when one has to ask oneself why god would do such a crazy thing?

    "It was obvious God used HWA, and following him was to follow Christ..."

    See, if you follow HWA you ARE following jesus. That's why you can forget about jesus. HWA was the real christ. (But Herbert Christ sounds funny.)

    "HWA did finish his work [HWA] had for him to do, but 26 years later, if all we have done is hold on to our talent, then what will [HWA] have to say to us. HWA would be mad at me if I stopped trying to do the work of [HWA]. I will talk about the Kingdom of [HWA] till my last breath, and serve [HWA]'s people as I am able."

    There, all fixed.

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  5. I have hoped and prayed every day that this world would end and have tried to encourage brethren.

    That's some messed up thnking.

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  6. I believe it would make a more effective case that Aaron had actually studied the writings of the Antenicene Fathers if he at least could spell their names correctly.

    BB

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  7. Idolization of HWA is undoubtedly the biggest problem in the churches assoicated with WCG.

    I would be happy if I never heard HWA mentioned in a sermon again.

    I don't follow HWA (or any man for that matter). Jesus is my guide.

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  8. "I would be happy if I never heard HWA mentioned in a sermon again"

    Don't hold your breath! That's asking for the impossible like asking the Adventists to no longer mention false prophetess EGW. It's never gonna happen.

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  9. "You all know that I believe what I was taught by HWA. I helped write his books and was trained in all his schools, 12 years of Imperial, 4 years of Ambassador and 12 years with him. I treasure the time I spent with him and the many lessons in faith. He made me promise to help prepare the bride and continue the work."


    I am not sure that I know that at all!

    HWA taught various ideas in his literature and sermons that the little people in the WCG used to take seriously. (For example, that HWA was the Elijah who was to come and restore all things.)

    Often, the big shots in the WCG (Pay attention, Aaron!) did not appear to read HWA's literature or listen to his sermons. If they had read or heard anything, they often did not take it very seriously, or even believe it at all. Sometimes, they did not even seem to know what was taught by HWA. After all, they were just there for the paycheck. It did not matter what HWA taught, as they would pretend to go along with whatever for the paycheck. When JWT Sr. came along, they continued to go along with whatever for the paycheck.

    Now the splinter groups are full of these big shots who continue to teach whatever and pretend that they are standing up for what HWA taught.

    Give your famously wimpy and wishy-washy head a good shake, Aaron!


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  10. This is interesting, considering I asked a UCG Pastor several years ago during an open congregational Bible Study if UCG still considered HWA the "end-time Elijah" - and he said no.

    That minister is a Regional Pastor now.

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  11. "It was obvious God used HWA, and following him was to follow Christ as he taught us."

    Thanks, Aaron, for not only giving the definition of the Armstrong cult in a single sentence, but for also admitting the basis of your personal faith.

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