Apparently in apostate apostle Malm's eyes we are are not fearfully and wonderfully made. In his world tomorrow all males will be forced to get the big cut.
Brethren we are to circumcise our children on the eighth day; which
is an allegory of spiritual circumcision. Only adult converts who are
circumcised in heart being more than eight days old are not required to
be physically circumcised. In the millennial kingdom there shall be no
uncircumcised person allowed to enter the temple.
Ez 44:9 Thus saith the Lord God; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel.
7:8 And he gave him the covenant
of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the
eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve
patriarchs.
These COG leaders are insane. So, all one has to do is wait to become an adult and circumcision is necessary. Where do the dig up these morons? Don't they realist the NT apostles (well at least those who had it more right such as Paul) made no distinction between the "circumcised" and "uncircumcised", between Jews and Gentiles? These COG leaders need to study the Bible, not make up lies.
ReplyDeleteThat's right brethren, because god is only concerned with the figurative, the allegorical, and the physical. What's going on underneath the surface is irrelevant. god doesn't care about how much you hate others, only how much you demonstrate your devotion to him through alegorical symbols. We know this because arrogant, self-righteous, judgmental, intolerant, douchebag, pricks like James Malm tell us how much god loves them and no one else. Oh well. Fuck it. Since my parents didn't circumcise me, I might as well live the way I want, isn't that right?
ReplyDeleteExcuse me, but was Adam circumcised? And didn't Christ refer to "the beginning" when He was asked about divorce, that is, it was never God's original intention regarding marriage. So I highly doubt that it was God's original intention that males undergo physical circumcision. And for a NC Christian there is no need for it. I'm personally not against it having undergone the knife myself due to a health condition, but to say that it's mandated under the NC is as Peter said: "...putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear" (Acts 15:10).
ReplyDeleteNot only that but Adam and many subsequent descendents were not Jews either. Yet COGs try to be like Jews so hard they not only fail to see the true Gospel message about salvation, they also fail to be Jews in more ways than they succeed according to the Mosaic Law. They are such hypocrites.
ReplyDeleteLet's face it...It would have been MUCH easier if YHVH demanded a simple hole punch in the ear lobe. Mr. Malm is the Apostle to the Genitals.
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Two five year old boys are standing at the potty to pee.
ReplyDeleteWhen one says, " Your thing doesn't have any skin on it!"
" I've been circumcised." Says the second boy.
" What does that mean?"
"It means they cut the skin off the end."
" How old were you when it was cut off?"
" My mom said that I was two days old."
" Did it hurt?"
" You bet it hurt, I couldn't walk for a year!"
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Why are Jewish men circumcised? Because Jewish women won't touch anything unless it's 20 percent off!
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Local Veteranarian got a side job circumcising elephants for Ringing Bros Circus. The pay was lousy but the tips were big...
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This really happened to ME. Four of us were at a restaurant and were taking about a potatoe skin order. The waitress overheard us and said. "Can I get an order of four skins for you guys?" :(
HUMAN BEINGS ARE HILARIOUS IN THEIR PRACTICES TO PLEASE THEIR CULTIC DEITY
Cray Z. Beliefs
"Don't they realist the NT apostles (well at least those who had it more right such as Paul) made no distinction between the "circumcised" and "uncircumcised", between Jews and Gentiles?"
ReplyDeleteThat was certainly the approach the Church took when I was growing up, at least that's what I remember. Members were to be "circumcised in their hearts" etc., etc.
I would say, based on what little I've seen commenting on Malm's views, that he takes after the Messianic Jews, far more than he seems to follow the teachings of the Church.
WTF? I thought it was only women's reproductive organs (and sexuality) that these religious types wanted to control. Oh, ......that's the Republicans I was thinking of. I would assume most COG people are Republican if they are anything. After all Obama is a Muslim, Socialist, Foreigner and the Anti-Christ.........one of the "mud people." Republicans are mostly old, grouchy, white men who listen only to Fox News and, worse of all, believe everything it says.
ReplyDeleteTo explain my reference to the "mud people" in the previous post, I am copying something from the Christian Identity people.
ReplyDelete"Christian Identity beliefs
White Anglo-Saxons, the supreme race, are God's chosen people because they were created by God and are the descendants of the lost "12 Tribes of Israel."
Jews of today are false Jews and not the chosen people; instead they are the offspring of Satan as a result of Eve mating with the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. Some preachers say Jews "must be killed."
God will send another savior to restore the state of Israel to the rightful people; all others will be condemned.
Nonwhites are soulless "mud people."
Isolationism and segregation are required; socializing with Jews or people of other races is condemned.
Interracial marriage, or mating with a non-white, is a sin.
In some parishes, pastors call for the death penalty for homosexuals.
Other religions gloss over the true meaning of the Bible, therefore assisting in the erosion of society's morals.
The mass media, controlled by the Jews, further erode our society's moral standards.
"If you were in the KKK, I want to win you out of that. At best, it's a stumbling block."
Charles Jennings, self-proclaimed racist, who spoke recently at a Christian Identity conference in Branson
It is interesting to note that, circumcision was commanded of Abraham in a 13th year, when his son Ishmael was 13 years old. The number 13 is a major symbol in the occult, death and Satanism. Consequently, in mathematical proof, Malm is a follower of Satan.
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ReplyDeleteJames Malm, virtually always "right in his own eyes," wrote: "...In the millennial kingdom there shall be no uncircumcised person allowed to enter the temple..." and then cited Ezekiel 44:9, but James is way out of context!
That verse has nothing to do with the mickey mouse millennium, where at the end of 1,000 years Christ and those with Him fail and Jerusalem is trodden down, etc. Satan has lots of work to do after that thing gets out of that pit!
Ezekiel 44:9 applies to the time AFTER the second resurrection occurs and billions of human beings are brought back to life.
At that time, the dual circumcision will become a reality, not during James Malm's supposed millennium, but time will tell...
John
Reminds me of the time all of us guys about age 8 or 9 went to the swimming pool. I grew up in a virtually all Mexican neighborhood.
ReplyDeleteWe were in the locker room , taking our clothes off, when all the boys started looking at everyone else's "Johnson". Their was one other anglo boy besides me, and we were both circumcised, and the 7 or 8 Mexicans boys were not.
Said the lead Mexican boy to me loudly so all could hear---"What the HELL is wrong with your Pee Pee?"
My response "MY PEE PEE?? What the HELL is wrong with YOUR Pee Pee???
No- Your Pee Pee is the wrong one. (Repeated back and forth between us several times)
We ended up in a fist fight, that as I recall ended up in a draw! LOL!
The conclusion of the matter is this... IMHO , circumcised just LOOKS BETTER, and my wife tells me that women prefer it too.
Good enough for me!
Joe Moeller
Cody, Wy
Who is Malm preaching to? Who cares what this blowhard says?
ReplyDeleteThis is what I was attempting to expose on the other thread. These guys are just so reluctant to accept any non-Jewish aspects of the New Covenant. Paul is pretty plain about the expansion of circumcision from a physical ritual to a spiritual matter involving the heart, but these guys always want a ritual they can perform, and use to judge everyone else, every single time. It's not as if Paul was the only one understanding this principle, either. Jesus taught that sin began in the human mind or heart, and James and the Jerusalem Council validated what the Holy Spirit led St. Paul to believe.
ReplyDeleteBut, HWAcaca dictates that you must go back to the old understandings of 2,000+ years ago. No growth, no expansion of understanding. This also perfectly illustrates why Gary has stated so many times that Armstrongism minimizes Jesus Christ. Someone takes him to task on this, and boom! Several perfect examples to the contrary come crashing over the horizon!
BB
Byker Bob said: "...these guys always want a ritual they can perform, and use to judge everyone else, every single time."
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely correct!
Look at their form of water baptism for instance.
Armstrongists teach the Holy Spirit will ONLY be imparted to a Christian if the ritual of "laying on of hands" is performed with it. So this means to the hardline Armstrongists that all other Christians who have undergone water baptism through another denomination doesn't have the Holy Spirit.
What BALONEY!
It's exactly as you say Byker Bob--to use as a measuring stick to judge other Christians with!
And yet I don't recall anyone who's been baptized according to HWA's formula proving (to both converts and non-converts alike) that they had a monopoly on receiving God's Holy Spirit by "speaking in tongues" and/or "prophesying"
And looking at HWA himself he was baptized by a Sunday-keeping Baptist minister without the ritual of LOOH
And reading about what went on behind the scenes in WCG and the personality politics, double-talk, corruption, abuses, etc. that is still ongoing in the splinters today indicates they're far more like the Catholic and Protestant churches they continually accuse of being "pagan" and "satanic" as they're running around themselves like a bunch of carnal, misfit, uncontrollable and ignorant rebels than Holy Spirit-filled members of the Body of Christ!
Welcome Church of God of the Holy Prepuce and the Circumcised . . .! Behold the Special Apostle to the Genitals.
ReplyDeleteNext time, don't be surprised to hear of the Church of God of the Holy Saliva. Or Church of God of the Armpit Hair.
These people, no - they don't deserve to be called God's ministers - but rather God's misers - are just ridiculous. Can't they think of more difficult yoke for the faithfuls like buying chicken and beef making sure that the butcher's knife hasn't touched any pork? Or eating in a restaurant where the plate nor the spoon and knife hasn't touched a piece of pork?
I have the impression this minister is gay. He just wants to see male genitals (and maybe touch them) to make sure that they are circumscized according to the Old Testament Law. What a good pretext. Horay for the gay minister!
ReplyDeleteIf their god hates foreskins so much, why did he create them in the first place?
ReplyDeleteWhen I was pretty little and the YES instructor was trying to tell us that man is made in God's image and likeness I got yelled at for asking why God needs a "ding-a-ling". But she never answered the question :(
ReplyDeleteWell, for starters God doesn't hate foreskins at all. Secondly, He created it to allow the Jews to be distinct from the rest of the human species for a number of specific purposes. Obviously you haven't studied the Bible.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the last anonymous poster. God gave the Hebrews an entire culture at Sinai, not just 613 laws. And, the purpose was to make them his "peculiar" people.
ReplyDeleteThese were for a specific time and purpose, and to point us towards the Messiah, Jesus Christ.
Look what happens when you don't acknowledge the edict of James and the first Jerusalem Council. You get gentile peoples in the Southern Hemisphere with the holydays upside down as compared to the seasons to which they are related for their metaphoric purposes. You get gentile Eskimos in the land of the midnight sun who find the whole concept of a sunset to sunset sabbath to be a riddle. To say nothing of the commandments to appear before God three times per year in (gasp) Jerusalem.
It isn't the legalism that makes Christians. It is transformation of the heart to embody the Two Great Commandments of the Lord, the morality, respect, and sense of fairness for all, and the value of human life, and the worship of the only real God. These are timeless values which can be practiced in any culture around the world, including but not restricted to the Jewish culture.
BB
I am familiar with the reasoning. However, I think it's pretty stupid. If such a barbaric custom is required to make a people "separate", then I would say your god is seriously disturbed.
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