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Monday, June 3, 2013

Bob Thiel: My God Is Tired of Tornadoes and is Now Using Fire to Get Peoples Attention



Bob Thiel has been running on and on lately about his god using tornadoes to smack up vile sinners and get them to join the "True" church.  After wrecking havoc over the Midwest, Bob's god is headed off to California where he/it is causing wildfires to burn people homes and kill animals.  Those dumb stupid animals are filthy sinners that need to die too.

The logic he uses below to try and prove his point makes him look rather silly.

June 3, 2013
LANCASTER, Calif. Nearly 3,000 people from some 700 homes were under evacuation orders Monday as a wildfire north of Los Angeles kept growing, feeding on old, dry brush, some of which hadn’t burned in decades.

The blaze had burned about 46 square miles in the mountains and canyons of the Angeles National Forest, destroying at least six homes and damaging 15 more…
The Bible shows that God uses weather to get people’s attention.  Sometimes to punish, sometimes to lead to repentance, and other times to consider that God, not humankind, is in control.

With it being so wet in the East and Midwest and dry in the USA West, the following weather passages came to mind:
15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: 16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country. 17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. 18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks. 19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out. 20 “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And your heavens which are over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust; from the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed. (Deuteronomy 28:15-24)
6 “Also I gave you cleanness of teeth in all your cities. And lack of bread in all your places; Yet you have not returned to Me,” Says the Lord. 7 “I also withheld rain from you, When there were still three months to the harvest. I made it rain on one city, I withheld rain from another city. One part was rained upon, And where it did not rain the part withered. 8 So two or three cities wandered to another city to drink water, But they were not satisfied; Yet you have not returned to Me,” Says the Lord. (Amos 4:6-8)
Although California historically has wildfires and the rest of the USA storms, the Bible also mentions fire as something God sometimes uses. Here are some examples:
11 The Lord said:
“Surely it will be well with your remnant;
Surely I will cause the enemy to intercede with you
In the time of adversity and in the time of affliction.
12 Can anyone break iron,
The northern iron and the bronze?
13 Your wealth and your treasures
I will give as plunder without price,
Because of all your sins,
Throughout your territories.
14 And I will make you cross over with your enemies
Into a land which you do not know;
For a fire is kindled in My anger,
Which shall burn upon you.” (Jeremiah 15:11-14)
12 O house of David! Thus says the Lord:
“Execute judgment in the morning;
And deliver him who is plundered
Out of the hand of the oppressor,
Lest My fury go forth like fire
And burn so that no one can quench it,
Because of the evil of your doings.
13 “Behold, I am against you, O inhabitant of the valley,
And rock of the plain,” says the Lord,
“Who say, ‘Who shall come down against us?
Or who shall enter our dwellings?’
14 But I will punish you according to the fruit of your doings,” says the Lord;
“I will kindle a fire in its forest,
And it shall devour all things around it.”‘ (Jeremiah 21:12-14)
11 The Lord has fulfilled His fury,
He has poured out His fierce anger.
He kindled a fire in Zion,
And it has devoured its foundations. (Lamentations 4:11)
15 There the fire will devour you,
The sword will cut you off;
It will eat you up like a locust. (Nahum 3:15)
Although my prayers are with those affected by the fires and other severe weather, I also pray that those in the USA will repent as worse problems are ahead if it continues to go in a moral direction away from the Bible. Weather problems can be a warning.

10 comments:

  1. What's the point of being a supernatural being if your arsenal of attention-getting techniques are all naturally-occurring phenomena?

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  2. Bob Thiel

    "Although my prayers are with those affected by the fires and other severe weather, I also pray that those in the USA will repent as worse problems are ahead if it continues to go in a moral direction away from the Bible."

    Bob is not praying for anyone. The word "although" means he has no stomach for actually praying for anyone and no faith in it to be of any good. "I also" means this is what he prays about actually and that they will come to him . As we know, going to any other church or God than him is going to just get them more wind, water and fire until they get it.

    Going towards the Bible can be just as immoral as going away from it. In fact, going away from it improves morals sometimes.

    Newest contribution to the immoral nature of much we refuse to admit to found in the "moral" Bible.

    http://www.amazon.com/Immoral-Bible-Approaches-Biblical-Ethics/dp/056730549X

    M.T.Prophet

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  3. The Bible is completely moral...truly truly the only way to live.

    http://www.evilbible.com/Evil%20Bible%20Quotes.htm

    Louis C Furr

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  4. Dedicated to Non-Prophet Bob.

    http://www.amazon.com/Immoral-Bible-Approaches-Biblical-Ethics/dp/056730549X

    A new recognition that the Bible is not the moral book or culture that would make the World Tomorrow wonderful

    I guarantee that Bob is only praying that they repent and come to him. Not coming to him , which would be lame, just means more wind, shake and bake until they get it.

    M.T.Prophet

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  5. I believe then according to Thiel we have a case against the Deity for arson and malicious mischief.

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  6. He might as well be saying: "See all of the disasters, brethren? It means God wants you to do what I'm telling you to do!" Of course, when real prophets said "Thus saith the Lord", they had the witness of God behind them, something to indicate that God was actually speaking through them. Think Moses.

    So, Bob, got a staff, or any snakes? How's that leprous hand? Gonna send us some manna? Have you smitten any rocks for water lately? (I speak as a fool, because Thiel is one of the last persons you'd want to see trusted with such power, and thankfully, God is the ultimate profiler and knows this about Bob all too well!)

    Actually, the Bible does say that God rains on the just and the unjust alike. This cuts both ways, because the principle is that God controls the weather. It means that tornadoes (and other natural activities) affect the just and the unjust alike as well.

    BB

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  7. Bob Thiel's god sounds remarkably like SATAN.

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  8. Bob has finally convinced me. I have decided to stop using King James' English to communicate, and instead use cryptic methods such as fire and crossword puzzles. Hey, if it's good enough for god, it's good enough for me.

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  9. Bob's god has to use tornadoes and fire to get people's attention.

    His self-proclaimed prophets sure aren't doing the job.

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  10. NOAA Prophetic Monitoring Servie is tapping the mind of the Deity to predict punishments as God continues to TRY and get people to repent.

    DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
    NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
    0100 AM CDT MON JUN 03 2013

    VALID 041200Z – 051200Z

    MULTIPLE SCENARIOS FOR SEVERE TSTM DEVELOPMENT ARE POSSIBLE
    ESPECIALLY TUESDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING. WITH A RELATIVELY STEEP
    ELEVATED MIXED LAYER AND LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE HAVING RETURNED INTO THE
    REGION /SOLID 60S F SURFACE DEWPOINTS/…THE AIRMASS SHOULD BECOME
    MODERATELY UNSTABLE BY AFTERNOON…ESPECIALLY ACROSS SOUTHERN KS AND
    WESTERN/NORTHERN OK AND ADJACENT TX PANHANDLE. ON THE SOUTHWEST
    FRINGE OF EARLY DAY CLOUD COVER/PRECIPITATION…SEVERE TSTM
    DEVELOPMENT MAY OCCUR ALONG THE WSW-ENE ORIENTED FRONTAL ZONE ACROSS
    SOUTHERN/EASTERN KS. DEEP CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT…AT LEAST ON AN
    ISOLATED BASIS…WILL BE POSSIBLE BY LATE AFTERNOON NEAR THE SURFACE
    TRIPLE POINT ACROSS WEST/NORTHWEST OK OR NEARBY TX PANHANDLE. OTHER
    STORMS ARE LIKELY TO INCREASE ACROSS THE CO/NORTHEAST NM FRONT RANGE
    AND SPREAD EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE HIGH PLAINS INTO TUESDAY
    AFTERNOON.

    GIVEN THE EXPECTED MOISTURE/INSTABILITY ACROSS THE REGION…VERTICAL
    SHEAR WILL BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT /40+ KT/ FOR SUPERCELLS/SUSTAINED
    MULTICELLS CAPABLE OF LARGE HAIL…WIND DAMAGE…AND PERHAPS A
    TORNADO OR TWO. WITH AID OF A NOCTURNALLY STRENGTHENING LOW LEVEL
    JET…STORMS MAY PERSIST/CONSOLIDATE AS THEY DEVELOP GENERALLY
    EASTWARD IN VICINITY THE FRONTAL ZONE TUESDAY NIGHT.

    Non-Prophet Robert Thiel will update the Deity's intended targets with his predictions after they happen.

    Pictures at 11



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