The spiritual abuse continues to run unabated in the Philadelphia Church of God. Children who cannot read have to be set down and read to from Leviticus 23 prior to going to the Feast this year.
PCG force feeds the law down their children throats but yet never reads to them about Jesus. Don't expect any sermons at the Feast about Jesus either. I don't recall the name being brought up at most Feast sites I have been to over the decades, so it sure won't be happening at PCG's either. If Jesus is mentioned it will be in passing and somehow tied to the law, or that he is coming back really, really pissed and is going to kill 2/3's of humanity because his Dad is pissed too.
Leap then goes on with this:Are the scriptures about God’s holy days, especially the Feast, deeply etched into your heart? Does knowing God’s masterful holy day plan give you goosebumps? If so, it will not be hard for you to want to pass that same knowledge, emotions and feelings on to your child. Remember, children are great imitators. If you talk about what God has taught you with excitement and joy with your children, they will want to know and talk about it too.However, you must teach your children what God says about the Feast from His Bible. How deeply you go into the scriptures will depend on the age of your child. Yet, every child should know well Leviticus 23—the premier holy day chapter in the Bible. Older children and teens should have its salient parts memorized. In fact, memorizing the scriptures related to the holy days is great preparation for the Feast.Don’t skip over your little ones. Take your youngest children, even those who cannot yet read, into your lap and read Leviticus 23 to them. Point to verse 1 to show your child that God personally spoke these words to Moses, the first leader of ancient Israel. Point to verse 2 and show them that God told Moses to teach the children of Israel about the holy days. Then be sure to instruct them about what a privilege it is to know about and be able to keep God’s Feast.
Be sure to explain to your children that Jesus Christ is going to return to this Earth and build an entirely new world founded on God’s law of love, the Ten Commandments...No he's not! The 10 commandments are not part of that new world, not as long as Jesus is around.
Even though the Feast is primarily for spiritual education (Isaiah 11:9), show your children that they can learn best about the millennium and the wonderful World Tomorrow by keeping the Feast. Explain to them that for eight days they will experience what it will be like to live during the millennium.
Yep, for eight days he gets to watch mommy and daddy revel in an alcoholic gluttonous frenzy of excess, particularly if daddy is a minister or elder. Privilege does have its rewards. COG festival site restaurants and bars are well know in stocking up on their booze prior to the Feasts.
It's all about ingraining the law in your child so that they are to be obedient to the ministry of the PCG. When they speak it is as if God is doing it.
Obedience will be the order of the day during the millennium. Show them specifically that you and your family attend the Feast in order to obey God (Leviticus 23:2). Discuss that your family is able to attend the Feast because you obey God’s tithing laws (Deuteronomy 14:22). Then explain to them that when your family goes to the Feast you will obey all the instructions and rules made during announcements. Carefully explain that they should strive to be obedient to you always, but especially during the Feast—not only for their safety and well-being but also for the welfare of everyone else attending the Feast.
Is it any wonder the COG's are facing an enormous 20/30 something drain? Why would any young adult subject themselves to this kind of legalistic bullshit?
The PCG and most of the COG groups know nothing about giving Feast messages. PCG has taught such stupidity at past feasts. Some of the subjects Flurry has come up with were about Princess Diana, The Kennedy's, and of course his building project (which he calls God's House). Like God really would want to live in some physical house in Oklahoma....
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ReplyDeleteI never really "got it" when I kept the feast of tabernacles. Why were people so enthusiastic about the spiritual message of the feast while I just seen it as a glorified vacation. I tried to work up some enthusiasm but I only enjoyed the vacation part of the feast. I really think that the enthusiasm many felt really wasn't about the spiritual message but about what they were going to do apart from sitting in a auditorium listining for eight days to boring sermons.
ReplyDelete"Obedience will be the order of the day during the millennium."
ReplyDeleteI don't know about you, but I can't wait to live forever in the mind-numbing mental hospital that Armstrongism looks forward to, especially during their "feast" each year.
Human beings aren't made for "obedience." Being alive and having free-will is all about being a maverick, being curious, and testing everything to find out what happens when you don't "obey." Being alive is all about mapping the boundaries between the boredom of safety and the excitement of disaster. People who aren't inclined to test what they've been told or think anything they haven't been explicitly allowed to think are nothing more than zombies already. They're also boring as hell!
Armstrongites spend 18+ hours sitting in church during just one week listening to ministurds drone on about how their feast "pictures" their "millennium and the wonderful World Tomorrow." It's wonderful alright. Imagine a devastated planet strewn with the wreckage of infrastructure and the horror of unburied corpses, meanwhile, the Lord of Amstrongism will have supernaturally disabled the prefrontal cortex of any humans who have survived His Glorious Day. Any regular person who wasn't divinely lobotomized would think he was in a real-life zombie flick... "...best...feast...ever...must...eat...brains...best...feast...ever..."
When Armstrongites talk about their kingdom, I picture a place of eternal serenity decorated in white tile where everyone is wearing white robes. What they don't tell you is those robes are open in the back. It's a mental hospital in the sky, where you get to live as a lobotomized "obedient" vegetable for all eternity to come. What's the difference between Armstrongism's "hell" in which you cease to exist for all of eternity, and Armstrongism's "heaven" in which you might still have a heartbeat, but are eternally comatose, with glazed-over eyes, and without any sign of brain activity? Will the "saints" of Armstrongism be able to tell difference between "heaven" and "hell"?
Am I "disobedient," "in a bad attitude" or harboring "demons" in the "thought-layers" of my brain if I don't want to sign up for this?
"Imagine"
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Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
No one left unpunished
Except a special few
Imagine all the people
Dying in the streets...
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
Big triggers pulled as one
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Tithing a hundred percent...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
Someday you'll be forced to join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine there's a kingdom
It's easy if you try
The saints all wearing white
No one asking why
Obedience is the order
The order of the day...
You may say we're a cult
Rigid as concrete
Someday you'll be forced to join us
Or you'll be ash under our feet
As one that values Biblical truth, I must point out that while I may agree with much of what you say, but when you are wrong, such as saying that the ten commandments are gone when Christ arrives, that is untrue.
ReplyDeleteThe commandments are law until the new heavens and new earth. This does not happen until the 1,000 years are up.
As far as teaching one's children, that is a right that all parents have, and you are wrong in knocking this.
One that condemns dictators, should not allow themselves to become one either.
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"No he's not! The 10 commandments are not part of that new world, not as long as Jesus is around."
ReplyDeleteummmm, yes they are, and unlike now, they will be enforced at that time.
how can any sane person dislike the 10 commandments?
imagine how nice life would be if everyone obeyed them......
Actually No2 is correct that the 10 Commandment’s will not be in effect. The covenant of law was temporary and transitory. It was to exist only until the time for the great change had come. It was a time of reformation, which was to be ushered in by the coming of Jesus. He was to be the “mediator of a better covenant which is established on BETTER promises. Hebrews 8:6
ReplyDeleteHe is the “new covenant,” the Word of God, which became flesh and “dwelt among us,…full of grace and truth.”
“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ John 1:17
The law is always external. It is always imposed from the outside. It can never make man good. It can only make him wish he had been good. The coming of Jesus brought an end to the law as a basis of anyone’s relationship to God. Law, as a written code, was suspended and superseded by grace and truth. We are no longer governed by a written code.
Jesus did not simply eliminate the law of Moses as a futile manner of attempting to secure righteousness. HE did away with the “law principle.” He did not substitute one written code for another. Instead of giving us a law, He gave himself. It is not by trust in deeds of the law, but by faith in Him as a person that we secure and sustain a right relationship with the Father. Law has gone and faith has come. Moses stands in history as the giver of the law. Jesus stands in history as the giver of life!
Law confines, restricts, and inhibits. It is a police power that keeps man down by keeping him under. It is a prison compound in which man is shut up. No man is free under the law. Law and liberty are antithetical to one another.
The new covenant was not written with ink. It is not a written code. It does not consist of the Gospels, the book of Acts, the epistles, and Revelation. Every one of these books is written in ink.
When we read that we are not under the law, the apostle is not telling us that we are no longer under the sovereignty of God, but that we are no longer under a written code or legalistic system. We no longer strive for justification, or seek to arrive at guiltlessness, by observance of such a code laid down or imposed from, without.
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Oh Robert, what a memory! Don't forget the applause....
Law can be: Torah, decalogue, percept, statute, decree, commandment, testament, or ordinances.
ReplyDeleteWhat was taken away were the ordinances that were against us, the circumcision, the killing of the lambs, burnt offerings.
"Law has gone and faith has come"
"Law confines, restricts, and inhibits" No way!
The bible says no way! Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
You can live in faith all you want, but breaking the commandments is sin, just as breaking man's law is a crime. So, go out and steal, murder, etc. "We no longer strive for justification." Yes we do need to strive to obey so that we can be justified through the Son and endure with obedience towards santification. New covenant is an agreement.
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Yes, we cannot by our strength justify anything, it is a gift, but do not disregard the giver by not obeying. Try doing that to your boss and see where that gets you.
Sin is what confines us, that is why the law is liberty when we obey.
"No man is free under the law", you are under man's law everyday because you obey the rules, you are a free person who has not committed a crime yet.
"imagine how nice life would be if everyone obeyed them......"
ReplyDeletePeople like to say that, but I also recall the story of a man telling Jesus "I have kept all these since I was a little boy". Jesus told him he still had something else to do.
I did forget the applause, Dennis. but, now that you mention it, fact is I never heard such a joyous roar from an audience again until hearing the audience response at a Charlie Daniels, Hank Jr., Jodee Messina Concert about twenty years later at Desert Sky Pavillion in Phoenix! A legendary, legendary Friday night that one was!
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