David C. Pack just cannot get it through his head that NO ONE in the hundreds of COG's came over to his side this past weekend. Your failure to really trust in his god caused you to deny his god and your salvation is now at risk. If you stay in your current COG waiting to see what happens, you are destroying your chance of salvation. David seems to be saying, "It is better to come on over to the dark side, even if I am wrong than to stay where you are and give your money to them. Its my money and it belongs to me. Your questions and fears should not be part of the equation. I am incapable of being wrong, trust me, it will be OK in the end."
Lacking the prophecy’s fulfillment, having vested themselves in the announced date, some brethren outside The Restored Church of God are surely wondering what to do now. You face a choice: wait inside God’s Church and Work—or outside…
If you stay where you are, you have chosen to continue under false leaders in a place of division and deception, one drenched in false doctrine and under a false government, all while witnessing accelerating collapse around you. Of course, some may just go home. Unavailable to you will be healings, blessings and almost daily exciting announcements of God’s Church and Work. (Just view our “Behind the Work” film right after the Feast of Tabernacles to see the sharp contrast with your group.) Or would you rather support the exciting Work of God being done in His Church, under His government, in His full truth, while experiencing the peace, joy, love and unity only possible in one Church?
The only real alternative you have is to follow Christ’s Spirit back to His Church.
Think hard about what you will do. You do not need to wait until our next “Fruits” letter highlights how we continue to explode in growth and the reach of the Work while other groups do not. You need not miss out.
Do not stake your salvation on the timing of the Haggai/Zechariah prophecy. I repeat a final time. The prophecy is TRUE. Just next week’s announcement will inspire you beyond belief—it is way beyond what you could imagine! Don’t miss it!
"The only real alternative you have is to follow Christ’s Spirit back to His Church."
ReplyDeleteIt is NOT there! The spirit of satan is though and many are loving it. What a shame!
How can you continue in that charade people? Come out from among the heathen.
"Don't miss it" - things will be revealed that were never revealed to Jesus and the 11 apostles + Paul. The Jews? forget it, for-get-it, the Jews won't know anything about it until the bombs start to fall and maybe not even then. It's their book so you'd think they would know all about it but, nope, the Jews are just too stupid for Christian words.
ReplyDelete"Well hi there cats and chicks! I'm an Apostle! And, I have some special knowledge for you, straight from God Himself! Oooh boy! It's going to change your very life, and the entire way in which you think! "
ReplyDeleteI tell you, if reincarnation were true, most of us are so familiar with that pitch and its debillitating pitfalls that the lesson would last through all of our lifetimes!
Bottom line is this: God had a really good opportunity to totally stand behind and validate every word Dave Pack uttered and or published on this topic. For some perfect reason, he chose not to. He left Dave out there alone, shivering and flapping in the cold breeze, like some priest of Baal, appearing to be the worst liar in the history of Armstrongism! Ooohhh, Dave. That's got to sting! The only intelligent response is to go with God, not with Dave. There has been no mandate from God for anyone to switch to rcg, only the word of a pretender whom God did not validate.
BB
Why are we all so concerned about and paying any attention to this David Pack? Who says he is in any way part of Gods true church besides him. The fruits say otherwise. He does not preach the gospel, he preaches his gospel. Forget him, ignore him, don't allow him to cause doubt, ignore him and all he says for one month and you will see how better off you will be, no more doubt, no more worry, no more frustration. This guy is pretty sad, he is delusional and he still is able to capture so many to follow or check him out. There is nothing to check, he is not of God so why bother.
ReplyDeleteIf Pack has something to say, he should just say it. All this weeks-and-weeks of suspense nonsense is just a marketing ploy.
ReplyDeleteIf God has revealed something to him, it's done. But he hasn't. Dave is making this up as he goes; he knows it, everybody knows it, but he's in too deep to admit it.
He's like Lance Armstrong, lying for years about doping, and then finally coming clean when there was nothing else left to say or do. Except this is worse. Lance Armstrong wasn't insisting he was speaking for God. Dave is, which means his end game will be far more deceitful and dangerous.
It is hard to understand why anyone in his church tolerates it any longer. Really bizarre.
The only thing left is for the IRS to come and do an audit.
ReplyDeleteDepending upon the results, Davey may be completely indistinguishable from Ronald Weinland.
Dave, please use the subjunctive. It is much more accurate. Proper phrasing would be "If you choose to wait for my prophecy to come true, it could be deadly." Waiting for, and expecting a falsehood is like the lady who stuck her butt out of the train window, not realizing that another train was closely passing by in the opposing direction on the adjacent track: disassed her!
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The most deadly choice is to wait around and follow Pack.
ReplyDeleteIt is doubtful he will ever show us anything real.
Pack's fairy tale continues...Meanwhile, members have no time to read their Bibles, but spend precious hours reading his announcements and booklets. Enough of this vain babbler!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said... Why are we all so concerned about and paying any attention to this David Pack?
ReplyDeleteThat's a very valid question. I can only speak for myself.
Dave is a symbol of my own past decisions in religion and the unnecessary drama some men can cause. He embodies everything I wish I had listen to my stomach react to earlier than I did with WCG. Ignorning him is to perpetuate everything that needs to be corrected. He is an excellent example of why no one should allow others to tell them all about who and whatever God is, how He/She thinks and what life means for the individual.
It's not about Dave. It's about an approach to religion that hurts more than helps and produces cynicism and skepticism in religion far beyond the faith, hope and love it should inspire.
Davey is abusive. His congregants are beleaguered; many are exhausted mentally, emotionally, financially, physically. Davey is driving them into the ground. They are overstressed.
ReplyDeleteWhen people get so overextended in an abusive environment, they begin to deteriorate. The deterioration can take many forms from depression to PTSD. Health fails. People get very sick.
We continue here at Banned! in order to provide people some traction to they can leave and begin to recover. This is bad; very bad.
We hope that those of you who are slaves to this outrageous demand on your resources will find the energy and courage to just plain flat out leave and recover.
Please do yourselves a favor and get Dr. Phil's book, "Life Code" and to assist in your recovery please get "Take Back Your Life".
The Churches of God appear to think that God is looking for every excuse possible to condemn as many people as He can to damnation. What a caricature of God. Did Jesus die for our sins in order to gain a single digit "market share"? If only those members of one splinter group of the WCG is saved, it looks like Satan won, big time.
ReplyDeleteSPOKEN IN AN EXCITED AND ENERGETIC "ART GILMORE" STYLE VOICE....
ReplyDelete(In a parody of old "Olvatine" 1950s and 60s kids television commercials)...
AND NOW BOYS AND GIRLS!...
You dont want to miss this important message! You too can be a member of the "secret" Captain Pack Fan Club!
-You will receive your very own MEMBERSHIP CARD with your very own secret Captain Pack membership number.
-You will get your very own secret Captain Pack member manual and membership rules.
-and most importantly, your very own secret Captain Pack PROPHECY DECODER RING!
All you need to join is to send as many "Ben Franklin $100 Boxtops" that you or anyone else in your household has in their possession to Secret World Headquarters in Wadsworth Ohio.
Please allow 4 to 6 weeks for delivery!
Joe Moeller
Cody, WY
And if you are a member of the UCG, they will form a committee to determine the best way to administrate the decoder ring.
ReplyDeleteExpect to pay more and then wait for decades for delivery.
It isn't so, Corky.
ReplyDeleteThe statement is commonly made, even by those who should know better, but the Bible is not a Jewish book.
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ReplyDeleteIt isn't so, Corky.
The statement is commonly made, even by those who should know better, but the Bible is not a Jewish book.
Of course it isn't, it's Sumerian, Babylonian and Hebrew.
Dave, a legend in his own mind, is desperately seeking an office that matches his ego. In his mind, apostle seems to fit.
ReplyDeleteThe bible is a jewish book. Written by jews, some of whom wanted to delude the gentiles by hooking them into a jewish religion (Christianity) that would elevate the jews. If only we could all be jews! Spiritually that is! The highest calling! And we will worship the Jew Jesus. The Jew Moses will give us our 10 great commandments. Oh, the "special" bond between Christians and jews in the "Judeo-Christian" world!
ReplyDeleteWhat a scam.
Strictly speaking, judging someone by "fruits" is basically examining their excrement. :). -RSK
ReplyDeleteCorky-
ReplyDeleteAll the archaeological, linguistic/orthographical, and mythic evidence points to the Israelites being a Canaanitic people. Early Hebrew written in cuneiform orthography on clay tablets is a Canaanite dialect. El and YHWH were two separate Canaanite deities before they were fused into a single "Jewish" deity. And don't forget the strong Egyptian influences that are also part of the mix.
I think it is possible that the Old Testament may be much more "Jewish" than we've been led to believe, having been stitched together from some older writings, but large portions having been written immediately prior to what we would typically think of as the "intertestamental" period. Why? For the purpose of giving an unremarkable people a remarkable (mythical) heritage.
The Packatolla said, "Unavailable to you will be healings, blessings and almost daily exciting announcements of God’s Church and Work."
ReplyDeleteMY COMMENT - I haven't stepped foot into a WCG service since 1976, and I feel blessed beyond words having healed from the experience, and I don't miss the daily announcements of Church drama and the alleged "Work".
Now there's an oxymoron - the word "Work" and the WCG. These clowns have never "worked" a day in their lives living off the tithes, offerings, special offerings, holy day offerings, and the all important building fund contributions obtained from the dumb sheep under threat of eternal Lake of Fire damnation.
Richard
Head Usher...you've been doing some reading...
ReplyDeleteThe time of Ezra and Nehemiah is likely when the whole thing was, shall we say, invented. Probably with the help of the Persian priesthood too. Just sayin'...because so much of it is Zoroastrian in nature. Maybe the "Magi" had more to do with it than we will ever know.
"Bottom line is this: God had a really good opportunity to totally stand behind and validate every word Dave Pack uttered and or published on this topic. For some perfect reason, he chose not to."
ReplyDeleteSame goes for what some consider to be "The Word of God"- the Bible!
But who knows. Maybe in that case one of the Christian gods anointed Paul and had him tell how he was the best, and other 'falsely so-called' apostles were jerks compared to him.