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Saturday, February 23, 2013

Martyr Thiel Claims Vatican Will Soon Be Contacting All of Us That Pick on Him for Inside Dirt






The non-ordained prophet and soon to be witness/martyr Robert Thiel has sent a letter out to his minuscule group of followers today.  The prophet is really excited! It seems he has been recording his extremely BAD videos with a mono microphone.  Those who were embarrassed to listen to his preaching on speakers and who chose to listen with earphones only heard the sound in one ear.  Now the prophet is excited to let his small viewing audience know he has bought a "stereophonic" microphone.  Now that the prophet has reached the 1980's in sound quality this should richly enhance his speaking.



On the technical front, we got a new microphone as the one we were using recorded in mono, not stereophonic, sound.  This meant that those who watched the YouTube videos wearing headphones only got sound in one ear.  This was corrected and the latest sermon (not sermonette as it was recorded earlier with the old microphone) is with the stereophonic microphone.  We also got a new tripod. We still have certain microphone and technical needs, and keep working on trying to improve the quality of the recordings.



The prophet also lashes out at Meredith, Pack and Flurry for their arrogance.  None of these pussy men are doing as mighty a work as prophet Bob is doing.


Heard a comment that a minister in my former association made to a woman affiliated with the Continuing Church of God.  He told her that it was obvious that his organization was the place “doing the work.”   And while he seems to believe that, the fact is that his organization lacks the integrity, boldness, and certain other qualities to be the group who will lead to the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 (see also Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God).

His comments remind me of two other church leaders (who lead two different groups that claim Church of God, COG, ties) who seem to think that if they have certain outward signs (like buildings) that this proves that they hold the Philadelphia mantle.  But those are not the biblical criteria.
If size or buildings were the criteria, the Church of Rome would be the one that God is using to fulfill Matthew 24:14, but it is not.



Prophet Thiel is still really ticked off at Rod Meredith for ignoring the magnificent knowledge that he tried to present.  Despite many meetings with Meredith, prophet Thiel's message fell on deaf ears and Bob is still ticked off.



About a decade ago, a well known COG evangelist and I were talking and he agreed with various points I was raising about the end time work. And back then, I was able to help lead him to essentially state that in the end it would not mainly be the message of the COG vs. the Protestants, but it would be the COG basically vs. the ecumenical religion that will rise up in the end that will likely (for a while) refer to itself as “Catholic.”

In 2005, during the Feast of Tabernacles in Clearwater Beach, after a private lunch, we and our wives met at his hotel room and I also discussed various aspects of the final phase of the work with him–and I had other meetings, discussions, and emails related to that with the other evangelists through December 14, 2012.   Yet, even though this evangelist and others in his church agreed to take many steps related to the final phase of the work, few, if any, of the promised steps were taken by his group–and this is a major part of why the Continuing Church of God needed to form.



Apparently Meredith knew a lunatic when he saw it.
 

Prophet Bob then explains that only he and the Continuing Church of God have the balls to pick on the Catholic Church.  Pretty soon the Vatican will start getting ticked off at the CCOG and other COG's and will ”tear through" their literature.  Then persecution will start on the TRUE believers.

When the more faithful in the COG (which currently would be the Continuing Church of God and others who may somewhat follow that lead) publicly identify the final King of the North as well as continuing to report about the final Pope/Antichrist (the initial reporting about the final pope will likely get lost in the media until later as many will write about the final pope) and media coverage gets generated, the Catholic scholars (probably getting some direction from the last pope) will tear through COG literature and attempt to challenge the credibility and the integrity of the COG message–this, combined with reactions to our proclamations, will initially cause “vigilante-type” persecution, but will also be followed by more institutionalized persecution (Matthew 24:-10; Daniel 11:28-35; 7:25).


I guess all of us should soon expect a call from the Beast/Vatican because we pick on non-ordained prophet Thiel.  The prophet predicts that the Beast power will contact dissident members of the COG for informational the TRUE members which will lead to further persecution. 


Notice that the King of the North will be even further enraged by the people of the “holy covenant” and most likely try to stop the supporters of it from proclaiming the truth about his intentions and the gospel of the kingdom (cf. Matthew 24:14). The King of the North will probably attempt to learn more about how to eliminate them by being nice to apostate members (those who “forsake the holy covenant”)–apparently he attempts to get them to betray true Christians (Matthew 24:10). It strikes me as important that although a naval power stops the King of the North momentarily, the King of the North becomes apparently more enraged with the people of the holy covenant than the naval power.


The prophet is still ticked of that many in the COG are picking on him for using "pagan" prophecies and writings to support his beliefs.  He continues to roll out the example of WCG ministers who did the same.  Prophet Bob has taken a lot of heat for whoring himself out to the Mayan's, Fatima and other end time loony predictions. "If David Jon Hill and Apostle Paul could do it, why can't I?"


Without going into to all the reasons, let me state that the Church of God has long also cited non-biblical sources to support gospel proclamation when appropriate (Acts 17:28; Hill, David Jon. Will you be deceived by Antichrist? Good News magazine of the Radio Church of God, October 1964, pp. 9-12,18; Hill DJ.  Christ or Antichrist. Good News magazine, Radio Church of God, April 1961, pp. 10-11). The that the Apostle Paul referred to pagan writings to reach his audience at times (cf. Acts 17:22-34; Titus 1:12), and since real Christians are not to be ignorant of Satan’s devices (2 Corinthians 2:11), those who actually believe the Bible more than their own “traditions” should realize that knowing how Satan has planned to deceive the world is an important aspect of being able to complete the final phase of the work (as doctrines of demons will be part of it, cf. 1 Timothy 4:1).  Dealing with false prophecies has long been something that God’s leaders (cf. 1 Kings 18) and prophets (e.g. (Jeremiah 28:15-16) have had to do.  And this week’s sermonette Will Pope Benedict’s resignation lead to the prophesied Antichrist? (and even to a degree, this week’s sermon) attempts to deal with those type of matters.

Spreading false prophecies has long been a tradition in Armstrongism and continues to this day.  Every single one of them have been proven to be liars.  Non-ordained prophet Thiel is no exception to this.