Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Saturday, May 4, 2013

Dave Pack Talks About Meredith, Weinland, Flurry: "None should follow such men to the kitchen, never mind the kingdom!"







Dave Pack writes in his latest Friday blog posting about the coming reunification of ALL 700 some splinter groups of Armstrongism.  These groups are all scheduled to fall apart later this year, in addition to three splinter group leaders dying as Pack has prophesied.  When these three leaders die, all of their members will unanimously jump ship to Dave's fledgling group with all of their money.

Dave writes:

As mentioned in last Friday’s announcement, many of God’s people are becoming excited about the prospect of coming back together. For decades, brethren have lamented that they are divided into competing groups. Most have probably asked at some point, “Is this scattering God’s will? Why would God allow us to be attending in so many organizations?” .....The feeling of nostalgia for the “old days” remains strong among most of God’s people. They want things “the way they used to be.”
Why in the hell would anyone want to go backwards to the "good old glory days?"  Why be abused all over again?  That mentality does not work in the 21st century.  It will never attract new younger members let alone draw in older ones.

Dave goes on trying to prove his point about reunification:

"...what has not been known until now is that God also recorded that an end-time regathering of His people into one organization would occur. But what has not been known until now is that God also recorded that an end-time regathering of His people into one organization would occur."

No Dave, the blithering idiots of Armstrongism never could understand this unique prophecy until YOU came along and God spoon fed it to you.  We know the drill. YOU are the most IMPORTANT man to ever be born on this earth who now leaders the world's most important church.  You are The Man!

Dave next writes:

Most in the world who write about the Bible do not realize that this Book interprets itself. Mr. Armstrong certainly understood this, and this is why God could reveal through him the true meaning of prophecy that he could make so plain to readers and brethren.

Um, Dave...news flash....any man or woman attending ANY seminary or theological school understand that scripture usually interprets itself.  That has been standard knowledge for thousands of years and is not something that HWA suddenly had revealed to him.

If HWA really had the "truth" revealed to him about prophecy they why have over 200 some documented prophecies he uttered FAILED?  Why has every prophecy by Hoeh, McNair, Blackwell, and Meredith made over the decades failed?  Not one single one has ever come true!  That pattern will not change with you either.  700 some splinter groups of the Church of God now exist because of the epic failures of COG leaders.  When one leader fails a "smarter" man comes along and says he has better knowledge and the sheeple go with him till he fails. They cycle goes on and on.

Of course Dave has the perfect answer to this delima.  All COG ministers and leaders are ignorant, he claims.

While prophecy can be made easy to understand, most ministers in the Worldwide Church of God never took the time to truly master the established correct sequence of end-­time events in order to make it easy and interesting to their pastorates. These men were ignorant (and some woefully so) of even the basics, and were generally left to almost completely avoid teaching a full third of the Bible—the correct understanding and flow of prophecy. Tragically, this is not only true of most ministers and brethren today, it has grown worse because so many in the splinters have ingested false understanding. This would not have happened if they could have weighed it against truth they had proven.

Because these men are all such ignorant fools God had to sent a better man to get the truth out there. That man obviously has to be Dave.

Dave next takes a swipe at three of the biggest Church of God ignorant fools.  at least he got this much right....


If brethren had better understood prophecy—had through the years been hearing the clarity of its many crucial truths for our time—they would not be following raging false prophets like Gerald Flurry or outright fiction writers like Ron Weinland, who mangles EVERYTHING about prophecy! Recent, newer self-appointed “prophets”—those far out on the lunatic fringe of the so-called “COGs”—have done their part to confuse the smaller numbers within their reach.

That, "newer self-appointed “prophets”" is none other than our favorite prophet, Bob Thiel.  First I pick on the poor guy, then Meredith and Winnail do and now Dave does.  Poor guy!

Then Dave takes another veiled swipe at Thiel and the rest of the loser pussy-boy splinter leaders.

False prophets come with many faces. Most in the world specialize in confusing, incomplete, deceitful theories of how the future will play out. The nonsense of these conflicting scenarios is without end. All bring their own interpretations—none correct. False prophets also come in all sizes, both in the world and among God’s people. Think of the splinters. Large—Gerald Flurry. Medium—Ron Weinland. Small—not worth naming. None should follow such men to the kitchen, never mind the kingdom! Yet thousands do. Sadly, almost like Muslim extremists, many followers of such “prophets” over time become permanently “radicalized.” (Thankfully, some false prophets will be exposed sooner than others. Christ will NOT return in 16 days, as Weinland declares. Hundreds with him and thousands who read his material will soon know they were deceived by no more than a common criminal!)

Obviously Dave's face is not part of the series of COG false prophets.  Thiel's group is so small and insignificant that Dave can't even be bothered to mention it!  Too funny!  At least Dave is correct about Weinerdude Weinland.  Jesus is not returning on May 19th.  Weinerdude is nothing more than a common criminal.

Dave is not about to let all the ministers and splinter group leaders get all his flack, you dumb ignorant members are to blame too!  If you were not such ignorant blithering idiots then you would have had the sense to not follow these losers. Instead you would have come to Dave's group where glory reigns and knowledge abounds.  Dumb members, its all your fault!

It is a testimony to many brethren’s woeful ignorance of God’s “sure word of prophecy” that anyone—ANYONE!—would believe such unbiblical butchery as these men spew. The folly of their teachings, combined with their botched predictions, causes most to view their efforts as laughable—a bad joke. But others are swept up in them. What is not a joke is that the truth of prophecy becomes very difficult to recapture for their disillusioned followers, but also for others who are turned off by it all. This is the real danger of false prophets. They blur and undermine the truth of Bible prophecy. Over time, they cause people to forget what is the truth—when they may once have known it well.
Dave now wants all COG members to know that God is directly channeling through him all of this magnificent knowledge.  Be astounded.  Be amazed.  Come home to Dave.  He IS the man!

I have taught prophecy ­extensively—­and ­correctly!—the truth of established understanding—­for over 40 years, probably much, much more than ANY other pastor during this same period. I wanted people to know what lies ahead. So I taught very thorough ­class-­like workshops in every one of my Worldwide Church of God pastorates, covering all the basics and more, verse-by-verse through Daniel and Revelation, with a great many passages included from other ­books. (Here is but a partial list of what I have covered in sermons.)

But grasp this. I am a neither a prophet nor have I any self-prescribed “authority” to bring prophecies. What will be shown over the next weeks is entirely GOD’S prophecy—from HIS WORD—explained and conveyed through the only office He ever uses to bring biblical truth to His Church (Acts 2:42; Eph. 2:20). The Bible warns that “no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation” (II Pet. 1:20). But God does work through His chosen servants. In fact, He never reveals His Plan through anyone else. Therefore, finding the one He leads becomes crucial.

Dave then blathers on about Haggai and Zechariah. till he gets to this.  Like Weinerdude Weinland, Dave is referring to something significant to take place later this fall.  Is this when he expects the three splinter group leaders to die?

One more date-related point. Haggai and Zechariah are recorded with a series of dates attached to their message. This is unique and different from the writings of all other Old Testament prophets. Like Ezra and Nehemiah, Haggai is also centered around the sixth and seventh months of the sacred year, except that it also involves God saying things through Haggai in the ninth month (Keslev) in the Hebrew year. These months are crucial to recognize and understand because the very name “Haggai” means “My (God’s) Feast, pilgrim Feast or festival gathering.”

Dave then talks about HWA and his series of sermons on Haggai and Zechariah an dhow HWA understood he was Zerubbabel.  Then Dave, by slight of hand, reveals that he is Joshua.

An aside before continuing: Mr. Armstrong in time came to realize that he would die, and without knowing Joshua’s identity. It is not the immediate purpose here to identify Joshua. That will come later. But it is important to realize that Mr. Armstrong knew he was Zerubbabel and that Joshua would follow Zerubbabel and be revealed in his time. As with learning that he was Zerubbabel, and then teaching this to the Church, Mr. Armstrong obviously realized that Joshua would similarly learn his own identity and also similarly teach it to the Church. Of course, merely because of the apostasy, this would not happen in any way that Mr. Armstrong could have imagined. Mr. Armstrong’s last sentence will be touched on later.
After a long series of quotes from HWA and with Dave's  interpretations he gets to this:

Finally, a grave caution. Understand that your leaders will almost certainly race to defeat proper understanding of this prophecy. Some will claim that Mr. Armstrong taught something different about it. But you have seen his quotes. He understood that he was a type of Zerubbabel and left open who fulfilled the role of Joshua. You will learn why. The book of Haggai cannot be discussing the long-ago temple that the ancient Zerubbabel built 2,500 years ago. It is a PROPHECY for US TODAY! Will you let deceitful liars, seeking to hold on to power in their “houses,” defeat your understanding before the prophecy can be explained in all its glorious detail? Or will you REJECT their efforts? Ultimately, it makes no difference whether they believe this prophecy—or even whether you believe it. It will be fulfilled—and SOON.

So all the splinter group leaders are supposed to get pissed at Dave and start preaching against him now?  These pussy-boys are deceitful liars seeking to hold on to their own empires and are not about to let their members take their money and jump ship to Dave.

Dave then close with a hint that the most magnificent news is yet to come from him. Something big and powerful is about to be announced.  It has taken him a LOT of sermons to understand this and to get his point across, yet you ignorant unwashed masses out there are too dumb to understand him.  It's your fault you are in the splinter cults you are in!
This announcement has laid crucial foundation for all that will follow. There is much more to understand. Incredible detail is involved. God explains His Purpose from every possible angle. It took me many sermons—MANY hours!!!—to cover all that is involved. Thousands have heard and understand much more than you are reading. This series of articles is but an overview. Haggai 1:12 declares that “the remnant” not only “obeyed the voice of the Lord their God,” but also “the words of Haggai the prophet.” One must know Haggai’s words to obey them. The time for obedience is NOW for those who learn the truth of this prophecy. Sadly, most of God’s people are not even reading Haggai, never mind understanding or obeying it. This had better change fast.





Bob Thiel Is None Too Happy With Doug Winnail



The non-ordained self-appointed false prophet was none too happy when he read on here Friday afternoon that Doug Winnail slapped him really good the other day.

Thiel writes:

05/03/13 p.m. It has been reported that LCG's Dr. D. Winnail sent out the following and, supposedly, that certain negative aspects of this writing were intended to be directed towards me and the Continuing Church of God (CCOG):
Irrespective of who might have been meant (and since CCOG has the biggest known work of a group that has such a high percentage of "stay-at-home" people, it is not unreasonable to consider that CCOG was a group this was targeted towards),

The biggest "work" of-stay-at home members???????????  Bob, Bob, Bob, your delusions of grandeur are getting the best of you.  You have no work.  You have the worst videos in the ENTIRE history of the Church of God.  You have become a laughing stock on YouTube.  Most of the viewers you are receiving are being directed there by this blog.  You could at least thank me for that!

The non-ordained false prophet has to resorts to a typical HWA comparison:

Like CCOG, the late Herbert W. Armstrong also started out with very few actual congregations, but mainly had a "stay-at-home" church that was served through the technology of the time (that is part of why he called it the Radio Church of God). He had the faith to believe and do the work anyway, despite CG7 being much larger than his group at the time. Surely, various ones have not forgotten that aspect and pattern of COG history.
Now, in the 21st century, I have tried to demonstrate a similar pattern to those with ears to hear (Matthew 11:15; 13:8-9)--we in the CCOG have already demonstrated sufficient magnitude to get the gospel to the world as a witness (Matthew 24:14). We are having significant impact on this God-given mission.
If you really think you are having a big impact with YouTube media in the 21st century you really are bonkers.

Perhaps this would be a good time to mention that the Continuing Church of God has reached millions of people in over 210 countries and territories in the past four months through the internet, radio, personal contact, and the written word.
Bob, once again you are using visions of grandeur to cloud your thinking.  Just because people from 210 countries have clicked on your site does not mean you have made a witness to them.  This blog has reached 200 countries around the world.  It is an easy thing to do.  Do I think I have reached multiple millions of pople as a result?  Not at all.  No more than you have.

Then Bob slaps Doug back with a zinger:

Integrity counts (see also Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God), and I believe that integrity, love, and faith are more important than current size (though I expect, over time, major changes in size of CCOG). It appears that it will be the Continuing Church of God that will lead the final phase of the work, and that this leading has already begun.
Apparently LCG has no integrity as a church nor do the men who are in charge.  Then the visions of grandeur take over and again and Thiel thinks he is doing the final phase of the work.



Dave Pack: I Have Taught Prophecy More Extensively and Correctly Than ANY Other COG Pastor Ever Has



God's most perfect humble creation is back boasting about his magnificence.  Can there be any man on this earth that is as brilliant and magnificent as Dave Pack?  Can perfection be this glorious and tall?

I have taught prophecy ­extensively—­and ­correctly!—the truth of established understanding—­for over 40 years, probably much, much more than ANY other pastor during this same period. I wanted people to know what lies ahead. So I taught very thorough ­class-­like workshops in every one of my Worldwide Church of God pastorates, covering all the basics and more, verse-by-verse through Daniel and Revelation, with a great many passages included from other ­books. (Here is but a partial list of what I have covered in sermons.)

PCG Ministers Are Gifts From Christ To Help Perfect You



Did you know that Philadelphia Church of God ministers are gifts from Jesus Christ to the members?  This is especially true when your marriage is having problems.  You should be going to the ministry for counseling.  The ministry is there to perfect you.

Seek counsel from God’s ministry.
We certainly need to take our family problems and concerns to God in prayer. But if you ask God for help, don’t overlook the fact that He may want to answer you through one of His ministers.
The ministry is a gift from Christ to help perfect you and build up the Church (Ephesians 4:11-16). Use that gift! Failing to do so can provide problems with the nourishment they need to grow. “Where no counsel is, the people fall,” Proverbs 11:14 warns.

Yeah right.  As if any member of the PCG needs to go in and counsel with an untrained twit that is 20 years younger than they are. Not a single "minister" has ever had REAL training in counseling through a licensed program.  PCG's training methods consist of Gerald laying down the law and the stooges enforcing it. 

Why would a PCG member go the minister anyway considering the track record the PCG has in destroying families, marriages and lives!


Don’t fear asking for help. We all tend to harbor pride that makes us reluctant to approach the ministry. We don’t want to “admit failure.” Men in particular can resist wanting to reveal anything that looks like a mistake. Naturally we don’t want our sins to be discovered (John 3:19-20).

Stamp out that pride. “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper,” says Proverbs 28:13. That issue may well need the light of exposure if it is to have a chance of being overcome. Simply being “thought well of” isn’t worth not taking action.
Members should be afraid to ask for help!  The ministry in the PCG holds peoples counseling sessions and the information shared against them whenever is expedient for PCG's purpose.

Men especially had better beware what they share.  If they have any aspirations for moving up and being used in the church; that depends on what they share.  If the man can't keep his household in line how will he rule a church?

PCG families have been torn asunder by Gerald Flurry's asinine laws and rules.  Children are leaving the cult in droves, marriages are crumbling, women are not being submissive, which all result in a lack of faith which is causing the huge drop in income.

It's not just a "few" members, it is a LOT!  If you do not rectify the situation NOW you will Not make it into the Kingdom and will be dead for all eternity.
“Now please! Please, dear brethren, heed this! Many of you are not living the kind of family life that is preparing you for God’s Kingdom. And if you don’t repent, and reorder your whole family life, you simply won’t make it into the Kingdom! I mean that! It is life and death for all eternity!”

If your family is having trouble, don’t put on a front with the ministers of Christ. God already knows the problem anyway (Psalm 69:5). God’s ministers aren’t going to judge, condemn, gloat or belittle. They are only there to help. They know that every one of us still has human nature we are trying to overcome. Their patience and understanding will surprise you.

So once again you the miserable weak brethren cannot get things right. You never will be able to measure up to the lofty standards that Gerald has set for you.  God's righteous perfect ministers have attained that glory in order to train you up from your wickedness.





Doug Winnail Says: Stop Trying To Find Fault With Us! Then Broadsides Bob Thiel





The poor folk in LCG just never get a break.  They are constantly doing something wrong and getting called on the carpet.  The world is collapsing around them and they keep getting into trouble.

Doug Winnail wants LCG members to stop being so critical of the leadership, in Jim Meredeth's colossal mistakes, in refurbishing office space during the financial crisis, recent disfellowshipments and other major issues.  This is just Satan attacking the LCG and you need not worry about it.

The best part though is when he slaps non-ordained Bob Thiel right across the face with a great broadside:
"Little stay-at-home groups are simply unable to do a work of this magnitude or carry out this God-given mission."
Poor Bob, such an epic failure right out of the starting gate.  Poor little guy!

Doug Winnail writes to the flock today with this:

Loose Bricks or Big Picture? How do you view the Church of God and the Work of God? Many who come into contact with the Living Church of God are excited to learn the Truth of God for the first time. Others are grateful to reconnect with the Truth they once learned from the Scriptures. Yet, from time to time, some, who are actually part of the very Church that is doing this Work, begin to look for loose bricks. They begin to compile lists of what they think are problems in the Church—editorial mistakes, misspoken words in a sermon, supposed doctrinal errors or decisions they disagree with. However, we need to remember that David and Samuel, Peter and Paul all had their problems and their detractors, yet God used these imperfect human beings to carry on His Work. The human leaders of God’s Church today are no different, and detractors have not disappeared. We need to appreciate the fact that the Tomorrow’s World magazine and television program are reaching millions of people and hundreds of thousands are responding.  The Internet presence of the Church is growing, and lives are being changed. The Gospel of the Kingdom of God and the message of salvation through Jesus Christ are being preached, and the world is being warned about sobering events that lie just ahead. Little stay-at-home groups are simply unable to do a work of this magnitude or carry out this God-given mission. This is the big picture to keep in mind instead of being caught up looking for loose bricks!
 
Have a profitable Sabbath!
Douglas S. Winnail

False Prophet Thiel Says God Is Deliberately Burning Southern California Because They are Such Horrible Sinners



First it was LCG claiming that the "highways have been made desolate" in the United States because of the Boston bombings, snow in the Midwest, and flooding on the Mississippi River.  Now we have the non-ordained self-appointed false prophet Thiel claiming the current fires in Southern California are a sign that prophecy is being fulfilled.  God knows that Californians are the most vile of sinners in the entire world and need to be spanked grievously.

Although California historically has wildfires, the Bible mentions fire as something God sometimes uses to punish.  Here are some examples:
11 The Lord said:
“Surely it will be well with your remnant;
Surely I will cause the enemy to intercede with you
In the time of adversity and in the time of affliction.
12 Can anyone break iron,
The northern iron and the bronze?
13 Your wealth and your treasures
I will give as plunder without price,
Because of all your sins,
Throughout your territories.
14 And I will make you cross over with your enemies
Into a land which you do not know;
For a fire is kindled in My anger,
Which shall burn upon you.
”   (Jeremiah 15:11-14)
12 O house of David! Thus says the Lord:
“Execute judgment in the morning;
And deliver him who is plundered
Out of the hand of the oppressor,
Lest My fury go forth like fire
And burn so that no one can quench it,

Because of the evil of your doings.
13 “Behold, I am against you, O inhabitant of the valley,
And rock of the plain,” says the Lord,
“Who say, ‘Who shall come down against us?
Or who shall enter our dwellings?’
14 But I will punish you according to the fruit of your doings,” says the Lord;
I will kindle a fire in its forest,
And it shall devour all things around it.
”‘  (Jeremiah 21:12-14)
11 The Lord has fulfilled His fury,
He has poured out His fierce anger.
He kindled a fire in Zion,
And it has devoured its foundations.
  (Lamentations 4:11)
15 There the fire will devour you,
The sword will cut you off;
It will eat you up like a locust.  (Nahum 3:15)

The non-ordained self-appointed false prophet continues:

Although my prayers are with those affected by the fires, and where I live is also subject to wildfires, I also pray that those in California will repent as worse problems are ahead if the State continues to go in a moral direction away from the Bible.  Weather problems can be a warning.
Jesus taught:
7…And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Matthew 24:7-8).
8 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows. (Mark 13:8)

Thursday, May 2, 2013

LCG Using News Stories To Fit Proof-texts of Scripture



To show how LCG proof-texts scripture to fit it's erroneous prophetic world view, check out the following announcement from LCG dated April 26, 2013.  In  the typical worldview of Armstrongism it can only quote from Hebrew scriptures to reinforce its prophetic stances.  In this case Rod Meredith resorts to using a verse from Leviticus. An obscure verse about highways being desolate automatically is taken into the 21st century and applied to something that has nothing to do with what is being imagined.


Highways Desolate



Bible prophecies warn of curses to come on the Israelite-descended nations because of their outright rejection of God and His laws. One of God’s punishments for disobedience will be “your highways shall be desolate” (Leviticus 26:22). Recent events in the United States and Canada reveal how this prophecy might be fulfilled. Last week in Boston, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, the city mandated that residents remain in their homes. Businesses were closed, children could not play out of doors, and only police cars and armored vehicles were allowed on streets—the roads and highways were desolate (The New Yorker, April 19, 2013). Concurrently, a portion of the U.S.’s largest “highway”—the Mississippi River—also came to a grinding halt. “Barge shipping on the Illinois River and parts of the Mississippi River will remain impeded until at least early next week as the flood-swollen waterways slowly recede from record- or near-record-high crests” (Reuters, April 23, 2013; Reuters, April 22, 2013). This followed a partial shut-down of river traffic in both August and December of last year, due to low water levels in the river system (Reuters, August 20, 2012; Reuters, December 26, 2012). Also this week, many major U.S. airports experienced significant flight delays due to budgetary furloughs of air traffic controllers (The New York Times, April 23, 2013). In Canada, a plot targeting an international railway train—another highway—was foiled this week (National Post, April 22, 2013). These sobering events provide a glimpse of things to come if our nations fail to return to God.

Apostle Malm: You Need To Be More Concerned About Christ Coming Back To Whip Your Ass Than Satan Attacking You In The Tribulation



Jesus Christ is coming back and he is PISSED!  He is ticked off that COG members are breaking the law and that they do not keep it 100%.  Apostle Malm can, but the rest of the dumb schmucks in the COG apparently can't.  Remember that time you went out after church, before sundown, and had that juicy steak dinner?  Jesus Christ is going to nail you for that!  Bad Sinner!  Bad! Bad! Bad!

Brethren, many think that this coming tribulation is about some angry Satan attacking the righteous people of God.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

It is because of the lack of zeal for the law of God and for his Sabbath that we are called to account and will be rejected by Christ and thrown into great tribulation that the spirit may be brought to repentance and saved by the affliction of the flesh.

Jesus Christ is going to let billions of humans fry in the tribulation because he is so ticked off.  He is going to stand there and do nothing as the sinning filth in front of him writhe in pain and agony before they die.

You elders who do not cry aloud and rebuke sin in the Assemblies, you elders who teach the brethren to sin by saying that Christ will overlook sin:  This very Jesus Christ will allow billions of human beings to be destroyed in the tribulation when he could prevent it!
If you elders teach to tolerate sin for organizational unity, or that Jesus is love and will overlook willful unrepented sin;  You are leading people who believe and follow you to their damnation! It that really the love you claim it is?

Jesus Christ and the Father are love!  because they love us they want us to live eternally with a happy fulfilling lives!  To teach that the sin which corrupts that eternal life and brings suffering and death could be tolerated by the love of God is an incredible blasphemy against the love of God.  Christ will never allow or overlook any unrepented sin!  NEVER!

To teach tolerance for heresy and sin is to mock the Christ who inspired the scriptures.

Like most of the COG's out there today,  Malm is looking with glee as his angry pissed off god starts killing humanity.  The myth that the COG is going to produce two great witnesses that will hold the world accountable is still being promoted by Malm and others.  They want these guys to kill and destroy.  If they don't come to kill and destroy then the entire COG belief system falls apart.

Very soon now God will commission HIS two servants to stand up and do HIS will, by delivering the repentance elect to the place prepared; and by preaching the gospel of warning and repentance to the whole world.  These two will be given great powers like Moses and Elijah to help them fulfill their missions.

Beware all of you grace filled Christians out there. Your filthy lovey-dovey grace is murderous!

They will not be wimpy emotionally immature love love folks.  They will love as God loves; by condemning sin and correcting the unrepentant sinful.  
 When these two pronounce some affliction and thousands die; will you condemn them and reject them?  or will you stand in awe of the power of God manifested in them?  and obey their instructions to KEEP all the teachings, commandments and instructions of Jesus Christ?  Will you remember the miracles that Moses and Elijah did by God’s power, and rejoice that your deliverance and inheritance is nigh?

Will you be one of the ones standing there with shouts of glee as humanity fry's around you?  When little children are  sent to the German concentration camp ovens will you shout with glee?  Malm apparently will.  His god demands it.

We have been made flesh so that we might suffer sin in the flesh and learn to hate sin as much as Jesus Christ hates and abhors sin!  It is sin that separates us from our Lord and our Father in heaven.
To be at ONE with Christ and the Father; we must hate the thing that separates us from them; we must love what they love and hate what they hate.

Anyone who teaches to tolerate differences of doctrine [heresy] from scripture,  or to overlook and leave sin unrebuked; is of their father the devil, and is NOT;  ONE with Christ and the Father of the elect.
Apostle Malm hates the word love with a passion.  Obviously the poor guy has never really experienced it in  his life or from his god.  Bad relationships and a vengeful god makes most COG members miserable sour-pusses and apostle Malm is a prime example.
Beware the emotional love love trap into a false Christ and false religion as warned of by Jude.  Jesus Christ  is going to bring this world to its knees before him.

COG Chief Pharisee Says "In Vetro" Fertilization Is An Abomination!




The worlds greatest law enforcer and greatest law breaker, James Malm, is ragging on UCG today stating that they are promoting the practice of In Vetro fertilization and abortion.  I don't know of any COG that advocates abortion.  I can guarantee Malm that there are probably hundreds of children in the COG's that have been conceived this way.  They truly have the right to call Malm the jackass that he is.

UCG NEWS:   The next GN focuses on condemning abortion.  I know of many instances of abortion in UCG, including the abomination of “ in vitro” fertilization which fertilizes several eggs and then destroys the ones not chosen for use.  I sincerely hope that the many elders in UCG and the other COG Groups now approving of abortion; deeply repent of that vile grotesque abomination and turn to God.

In this article Bob Berendt presents what Denny had told him, apparently unaware of Denny’s acceptance of abortion and in vitro in his private counseling’s with brethren. The Beginning of Life
Denny was not alone in his positions.  Congratulations are due to Scott Ashley for standing on official UCG teachings regardless of the strong opposition within the UCG ministry.

Here is an another article fighting these things as approved by Denny in his congregations.   When Does Human Life Begin? by J L. Merritt, M.D. & J. Lawrence Merritt, M.D

Dennis Asks: "Which One Should You Trust When You Have Doubts?"






Which One Should You Trust When You Have Doubts?

Your Brain...


Or Your Stomach?



A Short Lesson in Why We Say  " I Can't Stomach This Anymore."


Dennis Diehl - EzineArticles Expert AuthorWhen it comes to making decisions to do or not do, to be or not be, to believe or not believe or not believe, there is just one question you need to ask.  "Is the truth what my head is telling me or is the truth what my stomach is telling me?"   I have said this before and it is not an original view of my own, but the answer is your stomach is telling you the truth.  Your head is lying to you.

Let's just stick to church issues  and look back on how we thought vs how we felt in the past, any number of times, when whoever was telling us how it all is, how we must be, what must happen, when it would happen or how God is doing this or that was declaring it to us.  

Think of all the booklets you read that were the be all and end all on the chosen topic.  Go back when you heard HWA make grand pronouncements about what the Bible said or how it applied to WCG and himself.  What did you think in your head and what did you feel in your stomach?  Which was correct?  Think of being told how we were this or that era and others weren't. Think of Petra and make up.  Think of how you thought vs how you felt when someone announced that healing was a James 5:14 thing and not a medical thing?  What did your head tell you and what did your stomach tell you?  What told you the truth when Gerald Waterhouse spent three or four hours telling you wild and speculative things about everything from who HWA was in the vast Universe and how we'd flee the tribulation and such.  What did your head tell you and what did your stomach tell you. 

I remember vividly when I ask GW what he would think or do when HWA died.  He said, "He'd believe it after three days and three nights."  My head did not even enter into the discussion.  I almost barfed.

In hind site on most of these issues, I guarantee you, you argued in your head, the left side with the right side to come up with the same beliefs that these men were pushing at you, but in your stomach I well imagine such thoughts as...

This scares me
This is stupid
Where does he get this stuff?
That is only ONE way to view that and it makes me nervous
I don't think that is correct
That's ridiculous
This frightens me
Can you wrap it up so we can go home now?
He should not say that
People should not give that much to him
He should not tell people to sell their homes for him
I can't send that much in
etc....

When your head tells you one thing and your stomach tells you something else, your stomach is telling you the truth.  Your brain is lying to you.

In years past and now with perfect hindsight, I sat through many a "Refresher Program" which was frankly exhausting for the most part.  Some topics were interesting, some mind numbing boring and not well prepared.  I recall one evangelist thinking a good marriage "refresher" would be to cover EVERY scripture relating to marriage from Genesis to Revelation both physical and spiritual.  I left after about an hour by never coming back after a potty break with my head saying, "now you should go back" and my stomach saying "This is insane, boring and the man must have just got up this morning and grabbed his Nave's Topical Bible.  I can't stomach this.  And I didn't. 

I recall one full session by the now current President of UCG telling us all how to use 3x5 cards and how to arrange them in the box on this or that topic ...I forget.  My head said maybe the lecture would get better and my stomach said get out and go to the Rock and Mineral Show in Long Beach.  The stomach was right!!!  Great show!

I recall sitting through a seminar by the new Lawyer for the Church, Bernie Schnippert  with my head and stomach both telling me this is the most arrogant and talking down lecture I have ever heard.  Left that one too at potty time.

The lectures on divorce and remarriage made both my head and stomach feel united during the times of the Systematic Theology Project when we could finally get over thinking one could decide if people were bound or not bound and all the associated insanity that went with that.  By a "miracle" everything that came up in the early years of my ministry the current couple and marriage was ok with God.  :)  My stomach simply would not listen to my head even then and I have no regrets on that topic.  My stomach ruled as well on such topics as healing, make up and whether missing a Sabbath service because you had to go to a trade show or get fired also over ruled my head .  For that, and the common sense that my dad had , I am eternally thankful.  Growing up Presbyterian and not WCG also helped as did never pastoring in a metro area around the prying eyes and ears of other ministers.

So back to today in the  schism, split, splinter, slivers and sawdust world of the Wild World Churches of God.  Over the past couple of years we have all been exposed to more and more head/stomach statements by the likes of Gerald Flurry that Prophet, Dave Pack that Apostle, Bob Thiel that Non-Prophet and lesser but nonetheless boisterous Church of God leader wanna be's.   

Are you finding yourself arguing in our head over their very Biblical sounding reasonings or feeling the churn of your emotions manifested in your stomach telling you all is not well?   Remember, the emotions are the body's reaction to the mind.  If the mind spins it's tale of "believe this and don't question it," while at the same time your emotions and stomach are the still small voice saying, "watch out," or this is "BS"  learn to go with your stomach if you are ever going find personal peace and truth.

Very frankly, none of these men have a market on how it all is.  No one does. But this talk and push for your unchallenged belief in all they say is a very dangerous and bad mental habit.  Just as we only experience a very small sliver of the light and sound frequencies, lest we go nuts with it all, so no man has a corner on the truth.  All there is to know we do not know.  All there is to see we do not see. And all there is to hear we do not hear because of the limits our five senses put us under.  These men spin tales about themselves and their ego promotes their minds to say amazingly stupid, arrogant and simply untrue things.  Minds that tolerate even listening then start to argue with itself to either believe or not believe can be a tough habit to break.  In the COGs, if you believe you stay. If you don't believe you must go.  Getting into the Restored Church of God requires an obstacle course of requirements by the time you get to church.  Head or stomach?  Jesus said,  the yoke was easy and the burden was light.  Dave says the yoke is a yoke and it's ain't easy.  Head or stomach?

I realize there is a habit of arguing with oneself and others while desperately wanting to believe what one is hearing and that even letting the stomach tell its truth is not even experienced.  The mind/brain can simply not allow you to feel anymore truth or to question what you are hearing.  That is a very dangerous shut off of common sense and reality. 

I don't know what phoney and cobbled together prophecy Dave Pack has up his sleeve, but I can guarantee you it is bogus, made up, self serving and plainly a misuse of scripture.  If presented to any number of trained theologians who know their stuff, Dave's views would collapse in hoots and howls of scorn and correct views of scripture.  COG leaders have a bad habit of making the scriptures mean what they never meant to promote their own agendas.  Pathetic behavior.  I have heard that some of what Dave has in store relates to "Joshua" and that some kind of proof of his perfect rightness will take the form of other COG types dying.  I don't know.  Dave can't keep his church as sealed as he thinks it is.  Some people who have stomach reactions instead of just head ones can't stomach it even in his own congregations. 

I write this to ask you to rekindle your sensitivities to the difference between what your head argues you through when these various types pontificate about themselves and their views and what is going on your stomach. 

If your head tells you yes and your stomach tells you know, your stomach is telling you the truth.  The head is lying to you.

Just endeavoring to be helpful. No sense wasting my story and the hind sight reviewing my own mind/stomach reactions over the years and how they actually turned out.  The stomach was right.....

Amen....