Overlords of the WCG splinter groups are the GRINCH that stole Christmas from children. These self-appointed GRINCH type church controllers, have no concept of the damage they are doing to the innocent minds of countless children, who are victimized by foolish man-made religion (in the name
of God/Jesus Christ).
The names of every WCG splinter group church should be made public (along with their photos) on national television, in major news papers of the world and in every significant source of public information, so that the public can see the GRINCH in person.
WCG splinter group overlords have NO CONCERN for church members, but they do have concern for "WHATS IN YOUR WALLET?" Indeed the motivation to take control over the minds and
thinking of church goers, has to do with $cash, and not because the salvation of the members is a concern.
Every WCG splinter group overlord makes the pretense that they represent God/Jesus Christ, which is as fraudulent as a four legged chicken. Christmas is NOT the issue, as if by having a Christmas tree, church members will forfeit eternal life. The real issue is FEAR-MONGERING to keep the naive and gullible members in the fold, so that the $cash flows to the pastors and overlords, and not for Christmas gifts.
God does not send down a lightening bolt from heaven upon people who have Christmas trees in their homes, and gifts for their children under the trees. It is the WCG splinter group overlords who send out electric bolts of fear to their members, to instill compliance to their religious nonsense.
Van Robison
Any God who is so impotent that he can only carry out his plan by convincing people to send money to Gerald Flurry, Rod Meredith, or Ron Weinland is a god that does not deserve our money or our worship.
ReplyDeleteA god who will only give you eternal life if you support a man whose qualities are more like Satan is not a god who can or should be trusted.
A god who will only give you eternal life if you have been taught special secret knowledge by a Satanic cult leader is not a god worthy of your trust or your worship.
Stripped down to its basics, ACOG splinters are hardly distinguishable from tiny little gnostic-Satanic cults. They even perform human sacrifice... but their human sacrifices are even more evil, as the victims are left without money, career, family or hope, suitable only to remain as slaves to their cult leader once their lives have been ruined.
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“Church of God Splinter Groups are the GRINCH that Stole Christmas”
Ha! That's nothing!
Satan is the real GRINCH that stole all of God's festivals from everyone—and replaced them with customs like Christmas. It was like stealing a pearl of great price and replacing it with a piece of colored glass from a broken pop bottle.
And Van Robison is one of the Devil's “useful idiots” in this giant scam.
That Grinch stole a whole lot of other things in addition to Christmas. Like human dignity and decency, normal compassion and empathy, social justice.
ReplyDeleteSome days, I'm just grateful to be able to attend a church where they feel the same was that I do about racism, and happy to know that my contributions are not going to support somebody's racist theories.
BB
"Satan is the real GRINCH that stole all of god's festivals from everyone—and replaced them with customs like Christmas. It was like stealing a pearl of great price and replacing it with a piece of colored glass from a broken pop bottle. And Van Robison is one of the devil's “useful idiots” in this giant scam."
ReplyDeleteThe only thing crazier than having an imaginary friend is having an imaginary enemy. Your god and his festivals are just as pagan as everyone else's god and their festivals.
Next you'll probably be on about how glad you are that you're secretly Jewish, unlike all those Germans, who are secretly up to no good.
You're welcome to hold these bits of nonsense sacred privately. But at the point at which you enjoin that others should accept this foolishness too, without evidence for, and in spite of evidence against, is the point at which you become guilty of a rather gross irresponsibility. So, from the point of view which is actually supported by evidence, you're the one who is the idiot.
What is the harm of celebrating a holiday that brings out some of the good qualities in people during a long cold and dark time of the year. Isn't that positive.
ReplyDeleteAs an agnostic I question if Jesus even existed. However I see Christmas as a positive secular holiday that adds some spark to a dead part of the year.
Tell me what is wrong about decorating the inside and outside of your home during the darkest time of the year. Tell me what is wrong about giving gifts to those close to you and being more generous to charities this time of the year.
I agree that Christmas is not sanctioned by god ,but I also tend to believe that Hebrew holy days mentioned in the bible are also not sanctioned by god, but are carried over from ancient civalizations who warshiped harvest gods.
You know why there isn't a whole lot of comments in here this week? HEH! Everybody is out "keeping" Christmas, that's why.
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ReplyDeleteSatan is the real GRINCH that stole all of God's festivals from everyone—and replaced them with customs like Christmas. It was like stealing a pearl of great price and replacing it with a piece of colored glass from a broken pop bottle.
And Van Robison is one of the Devil's “useful idiots” in this giant scam.
December 27, 2014 at 11:49 AM
So besides all this nonsense...Did you steal Jesus...I'd like to know??
So what, they don't celebrate Christmas big freaking deal.
ReplyDeleteWhy in the world all this over kill concern about it?
I love the snarky comments on various posts by the COG lurker(s).
ReplyDeleteTheir so-called preaching accomplishes nothing (Growth? What growth?), so they compensate by coming here and vomiting their tired old doctrinal theories all over these threads.
Either way, they have no impact. Let them flap their gums.
In looking at LCG's latest Grinching of the holiday, I noticed that Tomorrow's World has a new presenter. Maybe I'm just in a "bah, humbug" mood, but after watching I'd say Bitter Bob Thiel may have a competitor for Mayor of Dullsville:
ReplyDeleteDoes Jesus Have a Place in Christmas?
New faces, same old nonsense.
"As an agnostic I question if Jesus even existed. However I see Christmas as a positive secular holiday that adds some spark to a dead part of the year."
ReplyDeleteYou've probably noticed, but we had to come up with all kinds of straw men for that argument back then (and it appears some still do now). It wasn't enough to claim it had pagan origins and Nimrod's Testicles and what not. We fervently believed that its observers were secretly unhappy, even as they wallowed in the most depraved sins on Xmas Eve. It's a sickness. Sometimes the most seemingly "moral" people are the most mentally ill of all.
"...have no concept of the damage they are doing to the innocent minds of countless children..."
ReplyDeletebut lying to them telling that a fake Jesus will drop down the chimney and leave them gifts if they've been "good" (by whatever standard they choose to use) doesn't damage the kids???
decietfulness is one of the biggest problems in the world today....and parents are doing to to their own children and calling it good.
go figure.
The holy days were very much centered on the Israelites, and used time reckoning, animals and events from the seasons and weather patterns of the northern hemisphere (specifically in the time zone of Mesopotamia) as integral parts of what they portrayed.
ReplyDeleteThe teachings of Jesus, on the other hand (if they are not filtered through Armstrongism), can be incorporated into, and used as an overall guide in virtually any culture, any place on the globe. Nomadic peoples who do not keep animals, or fishing-based cultures can apply them, even in areas where night and day are not roughly equal, or the seasons are (comparatively speaking) upside down.
Mosaic culture is dependent on the solar aspects of a solar-lunar calendar behaving exactly as they do in the covenant lands. It is also based on an agrarian lifestyle, this dominated by the clean animals native to that area. Many of the rituals which were given were based on proximity to, and feasibility of travel to Jerusalem. Even with our modern transportation and relative wealth, as an example, most observant Jewish fathers in major cities in the USA are not going to be able to afford to bar mitzvah their sons in Jerusalem (I once knew someone who had done this, and it was considered very special), let alone travel there with their families and animals three times per year.
Even physical logistics dictated that changes and adaptations were required the moment the banquet doors were opened to gentile peoples around the world at the birth of the New Covenant.
BB
Hey, BB, your explanation of Mosaic culture opens up a whole new set of ideas.
ReplyDeleteI always thought Mosaic culture was dependent on small bits of colorful stone and ceramic tile carefully arranged into a pattern and cemented in place.
a fake Jesus will drop down the chimney and leave them gifts
ReplyDeleteShow me just one non-ACOG household that treats Santa Claus as a "fake Jesus" and I'll be so surprised that I'll even send $5 to the ACOG of your choice.
By comparison, I can show you (and you probably already know) many parents who teach their children about a fake Jesus who will send them to a lake of fire if they fail to keep a bastardized version of the ancient Hebrew festival of booths (a fake version that involves not a proper biblical booth but a luxury hotel stay, and that gives your tithe money to men who are demonstrably not the Levites to whom the Law says your tithes must be given).
Would you rather your kids knew the real Jesus and also had some fun with a silly myth? Or would you prefer that they live in fear of a fake Jesus who will supposedly extinguish their existence if they aren't "good enough" to observe HWA's strange and inconsistent adaptations of the Hebrew festivals and laws?
Play on words, intended for partial humor, RP! HWA got his 613 "tiles" from the Torah, picked and chose his favorite ones, and created the mosaic that is known today as Armstrongism. In the past, I've also referred to Armstrongism as "Herbal Essence"
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Christmas and Armstrongism are bullshit. The Grinch can steal them both.
ReplyDeleteI love Christmas. And the look on my children's faces when they open their relatively inexpensive gifts (much less than 10% of my monthly income) under a fake fir tree with brilliant sparkling lights is priceless. Spending the day with my kids and a mug of hot tea, whipping up some cornbread dressing and baking cookies, eating chocolate while listening to old crooners go on and on about Santa Claus, all warm and safe, knowing that my children are forging good memories, is my reason why I put up a Christmas tree every December. And I don't even believe in gods, Judeo-Christian or pagan. I just enjoy developing a deeper relationship with my kids. And in my home, Christmas is a good day for doing just that.
ReplyDeleteBeing so far removed from the vomit and bile of Armstrongism, I had forgotten the Pavlovian hatred they have for a simple winter holiday. Of course, it's that separation, that Us vs Them mentality which they feed on. It reinforces their sense of holiness, of being "right." Well, with their god- that old genocidal psychopath- I guess I would go out of my way to be on his good side too.
Paul R
"Who is the Grinch?" was the answer for Final Jeopardy about a week or so ago.
ReplyDeleteI got it right!
One contestant got it right, while the other two were wrong with their "Who is Scrooge?" and "Who is Debbie Downer?" answers.
I wonder if Alex would have also accepted "Who is Bitter Bob?" as an acceptable answer.
If there ever was a perfect bride for Bitter Bob, it's Debbie Downer. Let the courting begin!
(Eating pizza in front of Bitter Bob's crooked bookshelves will be as romantic as a vacation in front of the Leaning Tower of Pisa.)