Ever since Bob Thiel self-appointed himself as God's most highly favored church leader in the end times, he has been warning about the eminent persecution his church will soon experience because of his awesome message. His message is the only truth out there now. Meredith, Flurry, Pack and Kubik are heretics that ignore the "whole truth" that Thiel preaches.
Like his surrogate Daddy, Rod Meredith, Thiel is claiming rampaging gays and pesky Muslims will soon make the lives of Church of God leaders one miserable mess. Persecution will be coming because these "men" are speaking out on the truth.
Paranoid Bob Elijah Elisha Amos Thiel believes the government is watching him intensely and will soon step in to stop him from preaching, using Facebook or the internet. Famine of the word will soon be upon us. No more Church of God leaders will be able to run off at the mouth. Just think, no more Bob Thiel, James Malm, Rod Meredith, Vic Kubik, Gerald Flurry or Dave Pack. What a glorious day that will be!
For years, this website has warned of civil unrest in Europe and the USA and has mentioned that Islamic issues will be a factor in both those regions.
Many in and out of the government have plans and are watching the internet with plans to deal with materials that they some day hope to silence.
Notice the following from the Bible:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my meditation;
Preserve my life from fear of the enemy.
2 Hide me from the secret plots of the wicked,
From the rebellion of the workers of iniquity,
3 Who sharpen their tongue like a sword,
And bend their bows to shoot their arrows — bitter words,
4 That they may shoot in secret at the blameless;
Suddenly they shoot at him and do not fear.5 They encourage themselves in an evil matter;
They talk of laying snares secretly;
They say, “Who will see them?”
6 They devise iniquities:
“We have perfected a shrewd scheme.”
Both the inward thought and the heart of man are deep. (Psalms 64:1-6)
And while you might think that if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from surveillance, consider that many in the government of the USA consider that not supporting homosexual marriages, etc. are extremist. I also saw someone once on a documentary that stated that people who believed in the millennium could not be trusted and should be considered as potential terrorists. The fact that we in the Continuing Church of God would be considered pacifists, does not change the fact that since we hold to millennial and other biblical views that we will not be improperly classified by government employees with various agendas.
The Prophet Amos was inspired to record the following:11 “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord God,
“That I will send a famine on the land,
Not a famine of bread,
Nor a thirst for water,
But of hearing the words of the Lord.
12 They shall wander from sea to sea,
And from north to east;
They shall run to and fro, seeking the word of the Lord,
But shall not find it. (Amos 8:11-12)
Notice that the Bible tells of a time that will come when the word of God will not be found. And that would seem to be because truth from it will be taken off the internet. In the 21st century, the internet is accessed by people in every country, and thus some type of internet restriction/suspension/site removal is coming.
We are getting closer to this time.
That is part of why we in the Continuing Church of God are preparing for the ‘short work’ (Romans 9:28) and the coming ‘famine of the word.’
Despite the first amendment to the US Constitution, more censorship on the internet is coming. The ‘famine of word’ will hit. But Jesus’ message of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God will reach the world as a witness
I hear tell that there are flourishing actvities ongoing on the internet that law enforcement has been attempting to curtail for years, and finding it a very difficult proposition. Dark Web, and Deep Web attract millions of viewers. If Bob is worried about his so-called work being silenced, he should be preparing himself by studying into these outlets, and also perhaps learning about encryption.
ReplyDeleteThe ACOGs have a history of being subversive, not so much for being millennialists, but for falsely prophesying and gloating over their chief marketing tool that the US will be overrun by the Germans. The Tokyo Roses and Axis Sallys of the world are considered to be traitors, and rightly so. If they had quoted a few Bible verses along the way, that unfortunately would have made it religion, and the government could not have stopped them. That's how Axis Herbie got away with his traiterous broadcasts durig WW-II.
Thiel should also know that amongst Armstrongism's dissidents, there are some activists who send off emails, write to newspapers, and communicate with radio and television networks to let them know what kinds of toxic, cultic people are attempting to use their facilities and technologies. His interests would be best served in not making self-fulfilling prophecies about his "work" being silenced. People may take it upon themselves to assist him in the fulfillment of these prophecies. He really needs to put more thought into what he says and does!
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(B)ob (A)mos (T)hiel , or BAT Man for short, is coming undone. BB is right to note if he is not careful he will self fulfill . I can't imagine however that drawing attention to himself would make any difference. Wacky religious blogs and video far far more radical and rancorous than himself (Bob is a pussy cat in presence , content and delivery) infest the Net . Bob could be considered a "Terrorist" in the same way Snow White could be for conversing with the Seven Dwarfs.
ReplyDeleteWhen the western economy collapses, there will be censorship. But the 'famine of the word' will be a type, not a true famine. People have their bibles and downloaded articles and booklets. A 'famine' presumes that people were fed previously. The food given by the splinters today, isn't even junk food. Most members are teenager like in their understanding of applying Gods laws.
ReplyDeleteDennis, all the Armstrongite churches are pussy cats, but they alone warn of a coming military defeat and enslavement. It will be a case of shoot the messenger. Old testament prophets were accused of helping the invading armies sent by God. So persecution is not far fetched.
ReplyDeleteIt never ceases to amaze me how these who purport to be prophets feel compelled to broadcast to everyone they meet, that they are prophets. Name me one prophet in the Bible who felt compelled to let everyone know that they were prophets.One would think that their works/miracles would stand the test to prove to all that they were at least, in need of our attention.
ReplyDeleteOne would think that by this time, that Bob, Dave, sixpack, and all others, would now be smart enough to realize that they have made serious mistakes, and humbly apologize. Does not the Word teach that we are not to think ourselves as important or more important, than others?
These remind me of the parable whereby Yahshua spoke of those that took the chief seats and then were told to sit else where. In the race to be first, these are going to be last in line when the King of kings rises to take His throne.
When Boob "BAT Man" Thiel sadly and of course passes away, who will replace him?
ReplyDeleteOf course, his bat child BAT BOY will take up his doubly-crazy "false Doctor of Theology" mantle of insanity!
Reading about Bat Boy in the Weekly World News (which is even more credible than World Net Daily), I learned that Bat Boy was running in the California gubernatorial election and rubbing elbows with world leaders.
These contacts will put Bat Boy in the PERFECT position to introduce the TRUTH (and also possibly rabies) to WORLD LEADERS, just as Herbert W Armstrong once did!
I'm so excited to see God's hand working in this UNPRECIDENTED END TIME ministry...
And, I feel a BUILDING FUND coming on! It's time for Mr. Thiel to build the DOUBLE BOOBY TOWERS next to Trump Tower.
President Trump will HAVE TO admit to 'THIEL'S TREMENDOUS TRUTH' when God's hand emerges from the clouds and fondles the nipples atop the Double Booby Towers, causing it's parking garage to emit farting noises!
7.07 AM you sound like one of the big people telling the little people to know their place. We are not to think of ourselves more important than others?? In fact, a winner is more important than a loser. Only in their dreams, are the losers as important than the responsible. Usually it's only a certain interpretation of one scripture that's used to claim this. Umpteen scriptures such as 'give honour to honour is due,' are ignored. Christs point was that the chief seat belonged to the chief servant rather than the chief exploiter. Christ did not condemn his two disciples for desiring the chief seats in the kingdom. He just said you must pay the price.
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ReplyDeleteWhen the Muslims and the Gays finally merge, and become rampaging militant Islamic Homosexuals, then know that the time is nigh, and that the church should flee to the Land of Nod, East of Eden for 1335 days.
"When the Western economy collapses...."
ReplyDeleteIt may, or it may not. Various people have been forecasting this for decades, mostly people who are making money or giving credence to their various agendas by promoting fear. Another scenario would be gradual decline in favor of an emerging player, such as China. Europe, though enjoying a greater level of prosperity for the everyday citizen than prior to WW-II, and the topic of Armstrongism's British Israel superstitions, appears to be being by-passed and eclipsed by China.
"there will be censorship...."
Why would economic collapse cause censorship? It could be argued that censorship requires great financial resources, and would therefore be rather low on the priority scale of government. Probably government would be going after gun owners, and those who have already distinguished themselves as anti-government Christian militias. Armstrongism does not even register on that scale. There are Christian groups today loudly standing up against emerging social trends. If any sort of clamp down ever comes about, they are top on the radar.
"Famine of the word..." That term is relative. It is generally personalized and co-opted by different groups to mean that their message will be silenced. They wear that statement as their badge, an indication that they only are curators of "the word".
"The food being given today by the splinters isn't even junk food." On that point, we ageee. Nor was the so-called food originally provided by HWA. Somehow, it never translated into ethical and moral behavior or treatment of fellow man.
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"Dark Web, and Deep Web....he should be preparing himself by studying into these outlets..."
ReplyDeleteThere is enough cancer down there anyway, it doesn't need anymore.
ReplyDeleteWAITING for any of these false prophets to shut up, or for someone else to censor or ban their babbling, or for any sort of famine of their incessant noise, would take much too long. You have to be proactive and turn off their shows yourself instead of choosing to waste your time listening to them.
BB historically, all fiat currencies have collapsed, the dollar is no exemption. There are many YouTube videos on this. Their point is that the 19 trillion dollar debt and climbing, is unsustainable, and when foreigners lose confidence in the dollar, it will collapse. This would result in rioting, since the standard of living would plunge. Martial law and censorship is the norm world wide when this happens. Homeland security isn't buying billions of hollow tipped bullets (less ricochet) for no reason.
ReplyDeleteConnie, Isn't it ironic that Muslims hang gays, but their version of heaven includes homosexuality.
ReplyDeleteAnybody notice that before proclaiming that his work will be "short," he boasts about how many YEARS he's been proclaiming?
ReplyDeleteNot that that's anything new in the Armstrong Zone.
10:54, I see that you have your apocalypse all worked out, independently of Armstrongism. Hope that makes you happy.
ReplyDeleteThe financial conditions you outlined are all reversible, or capable of being eased. I'm also aware of what could happen if they worsen, and have contingency plans, but am not fanatical about it. Hollow points can only do so much. Your average gun owner also has them, and there are a lot of AKs and ARs floating around.
BB
By the way, glaser tips are usually used to minimize ricochet and lessen the chance of piercing walls. Hollow points' main advantage is that they mushroom when they hit bone, causing major damage to soft tissue, and becoming nearly impossible to extract.
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on May 12, 2016 at 9:46 AM
ReplyDeleteanonymous said
"You have to be proactive and turn off their shows yourself instead of choosing to waste your time listening to them."
Don't you have to turn them on before you turn them off? There is a simple solution, think about it. LOL
cheers
ralph.f
BB yes financial conditions can be reversed. But that requires the reversal of the entitlement mentality. Don't hold your breath.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone is overly concerned about the fiat money cliches, which come up from time to time as they have again above, I would recommend Googling "Gold Standard" and reading up on the pros and cons of both gold and silver standards, non-metal standard currencies, and their impact at various junctions in history. Now, that is not to say that we shouldn't be concerned about the national debt, which though tangentially related, is a completely separate issue
ReplyDeleteAs a teaser, many economists (Maynard Keynes!) credit the gold standard with actually deeping and lengthening the Great Depression, causing deflation. No pump-priming possible. The Weimar Republic suffered hyperinflation because they had depleted their silver in paying the first rounds of their war reparations. They then had to print money to pay themselves. World War I in fact, had caused several nations to suspend the gold and silver monetizations which had been adapted in the 1800s, just so that they could finance their war effort. Allen Dulles had warned against holding the Germans to such high reparations, nobody listened, and Hitler ascended to power.
Clearly, there are some pros and cons for a single metal or bi-metal monetary standard, and pros and cons for some sort of non-metal based standard. As an example, many of the European countries have their own independent currency, but index it with the Euro, which is also in and of itself a fiat currency. With a strict gold standard you cannot create tight money situations to cool down an overheating economy, or orchestrate quantitative easing to stimulate a contracting economy.
Anyhoo, do some reading and become informed to a higher degree than what might be availble through youtube videos, or what your splinter group leader boldly pronounces. Churchofgoddians have historically believed that a gold standard is probably God's own legal tender. In many cases throughout history, the face value of the coins has been less than the value of the gold they are made from. It is not a perfect standard.
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BB according to Quora.com
ReplyDelete"Hollow-point ammo arguably produces a larger wound channel and is more deadly at close range, but that isn't why law enforcement uses it. Hollow-point ammo is likely to stop at the first thing it hits. If a police officer shoots a bad guy with standard round-nose ammo, there is an excellent chance the bullet will penetrate the bad guy, exit out the opposite side, and have enough momentum to hit and injure someone standing behind him."
Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteAccording to Wikipedia:
Glaser Safety Slug is a frangible bullet made by Cor-Bon/Glaser. The Glaser Safety Slug was developed by Jack Canon in 1975, the same year the company was founded by Armin Glaser
The original round was a hand-made hollow point bullet filled with No. 12 birdshot, with a flat polymer cap. To improve ballistic performance, a polymer-tipped round ball was introduced in 1987, and the current compressed core form was first sold in 1988. The formulation of the polymer was also changed in 1994 to improve fragmentation reliability. Each caliber comes in two forms, blue, and silver, the latter having greater penetrating power due to the use of no. 6 birdshot rather than no. 12.
The projectile in the cartridge is of a much lighter weight than more conventional types of cartridges and so the projectiles exit the bore at significantly higher muzzle velocities. The current bullet has a core of very tightly packed lead pellets. On impact, the bullet fractures along manufactured stress lines in the jacket-imparting all the bullet's energy very quickly rather than over-penetrating a target or ricocheting on a miss. The extreme light weight and fragility of the projectile make it unsuitable for long range firing or against protected targets.
The bullet design can produce large shallow wounds in flesh while failing to pass through structural barriers thicker than drywall or sheet metal. These qualities make it less likely to strike unintended targets, such as people in another room during an indoor shooting. Also, when it strikes a hard surface from which a solid bullet would glance off, it fragments into tiny, light pieces and carries much less ricochet danger.
Also, according to Wikipedia, "Hollow points are designed to increase in diameter once within the target, thus maximizing tissue damage and blood loss or shock, and to remain inside the target, thereby transferring all of the kinetic energy to the target (whereas some fraction would remain in the bullet if it passed through instead. Both of these goals are meant to maximize stopping power."
So there you have it. Hollow tips were designed for maximum stopping power. I was told by my police professional buddies, and have also read that that is why they are used by law enforcement, whose lives often depend on that stopping power. The fact that they they are prohibited for usage in international warfare by the Hague Convention does not prevent them from being used by private citizens or police departments. True, they are less likely to ricochet, but when there is danger of ricochet, many police departments use the Glaser points specifically to prevent ricochet.
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ole Maynard "spend yourself into prosperity" Keynes!
ReplyDeleteyep, that's a source worth listening to... /s
For anyone who thinks there's something inherently holy & righteous about using gold or silver for currency, consider:
ReplyDelete1) "Fiat" currencies float against other currencies. Their values are determined by supply and demand.
2) Gold and silver float against the currencies. Their values are determined by supply and demand.
So, what's the difference again?
If you don't agree, there's a verse in the bible that even indicates this in the process of going somewhere else:
Ezekiel 7:19 They shall fling their silver into the streets, their gold shall be treated as unclean...
Why? Zero demand, zero value.
Add to that, what BB said, that specie standards are impractical for currency because they make the implementation of monetary policy extremely difficult.
Anon 10:49:
ReplyDeleteKeynes advocated that governments cut taxes and increase spending during a downturn in the economy to reverse the downturn. He advocated with equal ferver restoring the tax cuts and reducing spending during an upturn in the economy to pay down the deficit and prevent the formation of financial bubbles.
The U.S. Congress has mastered the first part of Keynes' prescription but has left the second part untried. Place the blame where it belongs, at the foot of Congress, not Keynes.
10:49, I just love it when someone reduces a complex individual or philosophy to a one sentence cliche. The implimentation of the ideas of Maynard Keynes were largely responsible for the creation of the middle economic class of the USA and other free market countries. Henry Ford led the way in embracing them, making it possible for factory workers to be able to afford to purchase the products which they were manufacturing. Keynes got a lot of things right. In some cases, our own version of the Oligarchs have never fully accepted the losses of their control which resulted from the creation of the middle class. In many ways, HWA was similar to these Oligarchs in his attitudes towards the middle class.
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BB you are an old man, so what if there is a financial apocalypse. It will be like an apocalyptic zombie movie, but for real. An interesting experience before you kick the bucket.
ReplyDelete3:45, entitlements have been modified in the past. Ronald Reagan was widely criticized for attempting to dismantle the entire US "safety net". Bill Clinton did institute welfare reform. There is talk of "means testing" for social security benefits. There are many things which can be done.
ReplyDeleteRedfox has an excellent entry regarding the national debt over at his Living Armstrongism blog. Frankly, much of the increase in the national debt was incurred in the attempt to avert another great depression. Bill Clinton balanced the budget, so we know that Democrats can do this from time to time.
However, Jubilee is Not just a Biblical principle, it is the periodic escape valve for free market economies. It is a necessary time when debt is expunged from the system, and the economy is revitalized. Time will tell whether enough debt was expunged during the recession. Probably much depends on the coming election. We should get a clearer vision of the future in November. Hopefully the fear-mingering FEMA camp conspiratorialists will have their mouths shut at least temporarily.
One of the things that conservatives are watching right now is the proposed changes to Section 8 housing. That could radically transform daily life as all of us know it.
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The train has derailed and is in free-fall!
ReplyDelete8:05, unfortunately, or fortunately as the case may be, I've eaten health foods and taken vitamins all my life, still work out, still ride my bike, still rock out with outrageous music, and still jog. I hate to think of doing another 20 years on the planet, but reality is, it's a distinct possibility. My parents are in their mid to late 80s, and still key people in their ACOG. So, yeah, though I don't dwell on the possibility of an apocalypse, a plan involving survivalism + God's protection are on my mind, just as they might be for you guys who are Gen Xers or Millennials. Also, I prefer the label "ninja" to zombie. The difference is, the term zombie refers to the culties.
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Further regarding apocalypse, many of us who grew up in WCG during the '50s and '60s (you know, the era when everything was supposed to have been utopian?) already suffered through our own extended holocausts courtesy of the child-rearing principles. Frankly, it would be difficult to imagine the Germans being able to inflict more pain. Plus, the Germans were only supposed to have 3-1/2 years to cause their pain, kind of a humanitarian limit as compared to WCG parents having up to 18 years.
ReplyDeleteThen you have to examine the mental distress of membership, constantly being assured that the tribulation applied to the US, and was 3-5 years in the future. Some people today have endured 50-60 years of this fear, and the manipulation which accompanies it, plus needing to constantly adjust their attitudes as they were confronted by the lies and tyranny of the corrupt police department which ruled the roost (ministry).
So, if the Germans ever arrive, or the NWO takes over and ends up being Stalinesque, at least I had the opportunity to live for 40+ years in freedom and peace of mind. As a general percentage of one's life, I can live with that. Plus, we know all of the false prophets are going to take a rather unpleasant bath in a well known lake.
Bottom line is that nobody gets out of life alive. Death is the way a seed germinates. Most people who die unfortunately do suffer a certain amount of pain, whether it involves terminal disease, violent crime, going down on a bike, war, or countless other circumstances. Assuming an afterlife, (which I do), the only thing we get to take along with us is the memory of our experiences.
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