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Monday, August 8, 2016

It's a simple request...James Malm


James Malm said:  "It appears that the Scarborough’s really had no case after all, and this seems to have been egged on and even orchestrated if not by Dennis Diehl himself  [a former elder fired from WCG and now seemingly full of bitterness against anything associated with the COG],  then by the inveterate liars at the anti God website Banned by HWA."

 I asked and James said.....    
  1. Dennis said: 
    August 8, 2016 at 07:55
    Nothing in your comment is true or accurate. So make peace my friend and take the reference out. You don’t want the BannedHWA blog owner on you with 4000 COG hits a day wanting you to correct it
    James said : "So I am to believe you? and cower before your threats? Your close association with an egregious liar deprives you of any and all credibility. No one can believe a word you say. I have been regularly lied about by the Banned folks for years as have many others, and you tough guys are now attacking an old lady with a pack of lies, and I should care about your threats?

    Either you have a very thin skin for people who make a career out of attacking others; or I have hit too close to the mark for your comfort. James"
  2.  It is not about thin skin or "bitterness" either. I don't consider myself bitter about anything but rather educated as to why I no longer take the positions concerning church, the  Bible and  The One Man Show I used to take in my naive and good intentioned youth and Church years. 
  3. It is about a published inaccurate statement that I would like corrected.  Anyone would ask the same thing.  That's not asking a whole lot.  Perhaps Ms. Scarborough would like to answer the question as to ever having known or been in contact with me over this issue.  
  4. Also, I am sorry you feel anyone is picking on an "old lady".  Family members are the source of the concerns and no one is making it up.  If what they say is not so, then have a chat with them and ask them, not us, why they feel as they feel. And, if what they say is inaccurate, then ask them to correct it and explain why.  Simple...
  5. Also, the good folk at Banned HWA are not making a career of attacking others.  Others bring it on themselves with their outlandish theological ideas, opinions, callings, silliness and narcissistic behaviors that hurt many other good folk who for whatever reasons can't see the forest for their ministerial trees.  Noticing the crazy behaviors and written statements of belief is not attacking.  It is noticing and standing up to it which is something their members don't seem to have the ability or the energy to do. 
  6. Banned is a way for those who see what we have seen and feel what we have felt about our own experiences and conclusions without judgment or even have to reveal who they are or their affiliation.  4000 views a day must mean something here is of interest to not a few. 
  7. Perhaps you could list the specific areas where you feel others have lied about you and show why others are being unfair or inaccurate in their observations about your publicly printed views.  After all, if you are going to declare yourself and have others declare you the expert on all things Bible, you may find others taking issue with that from time to time.
  8. I am sure if you feel you have been deeply wronged, misunderstood or lied about, you could clarify that on this site if you wished rather than use your own hurts to justify not correcting a simple matter when you are proven wrong and giving out misinformation.  You have not hit close to home. You missed completely.  
  9. You chose to post your response to my simple private request publicly on your website, so you'll have to forgive me if I post mine here.  
Regards
Dennis

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78 comments:

  1. RSKMonday, August 8, 2016 at 7:26:00 PM PDT

    You're really holding out on the fire you promised, Constance.

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  2. Byker BobMonday, August 8, 2016 at 8:04:00 PM PDT

    There are two types of Armstrongites, Dennis. The ones who are witnessing things in their churches that are now causing them to look for more satisfying solutions and answers, and the stalwarts who believe they already have the answers.

    Type one, we can have pleasant, mutual, two way conversations with. Type two think of themselves as being the arbiters of truth, and the only ones who tell the truth. You can have nice conversations with type two about such topics as the weather, until it comes to cloud cover in Jerusalem and the new moon.

    BB

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  3. GlennMonday, August 8, 2016 at 8:18:00 PM PDT

    I think some readers of this blog conflate Dennis and Gary into the same person.

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  4. NO2HWAMonday, August 8, 2016 at 8:38:00 PM PDT

    I must have missed the comment about fire spewing forth to fry me. Did Constance say that?

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    1. RSKMonday, August 8, 2016 at 8:46:00 PM PDT

      See the comments on 8/5's "Canada's exports" post. :)

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  5. DennisCDiehlMonday, August 8, 2016 at 8:47:00 PM PDT

    Many think Banned is my blog but , of course, I am only here by invitation of Gary who is the blog owner. We have never met, but talk a couple times a month. Gary and I would have one heck of a lunch together. lol

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  6. AnonymousMonday, August 8, 2016 at 8:50:00 PM PDT

    Malm is too embarrassed now to do what is right and will leave it up. Humility is not one of his strong points. Uber law keepers usually end up being liars. Even though it is an impossibly that they keep the entire law, they will lie an say they do. If they lie about that you can be sure they will lie about everything else.

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  7. Byker BobMonday, August 8, 2016 at 9:04:00 PM PDT

    The fire from heaven comment is on the Malm & Bell thread. Someone calling herself "Connie" (not our Connie) said Malm was God's only prophet teaching the law, and would call down fire from heaven on anyone who mocked him. Obviously, both RSK and I are still alive, so either Malm is out of chemicals, or Constance isn't Connie.


    BB

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    1. RSKMonday, August 8, 2016 at 9:59:00 PM PDT

      It could theoretically be anyone, but the notion of Malm calling down fire is too funny.
      Seen any bears, BB?

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    2. Byker BobMonday, August 8, 2016 at 11:58:00 PM PDT

      Just got back from my evening bicycle ride (I ride them too), and tonight, didn't even meet up with any rabbits or coyotes, let alone bears!

      BB

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  8. AnonymousMonday, August 8, 2016 at 9:09:00 PM PDT

    Not only do people here know that Malm is a liar, but even Bob Thiel calls him a liar:

    "James Malm, an independent internet poster and leader/owner of the Shining Light blog, is now apparently trying to suggest that he is doing an Elijah-type work. This is despite that fact that he historically has also been making inaccurate statements about prophecies, people, and organizations."

    "Since James Malm’s focus seems to be on criticizing COG groups, he seems to be hinting that he is doing an Elijah-like work. He is not."

    "ames Malm, to the best of my knowledge, has never been in high level meetings in LCG or UCG or COGWA (the three largest COGs). If so, he would realize that what he often implies about COG groups is simply not true. While it is true that COG groups will not accept James Malm’s prophetic misunderstandings and inaccurate accusations, it should be noted that COG groups do examine their own prophetic understandings and make modifications. Having attended numerous meetings at LCG’s HQ in Charlotte, I can state that certain of James Malm’s assertions as related to LCG are false. James Malm’s contention that all the groups will reject the two witnesses and claim one or both is crazy is in error–and on this particular point, I base it upon meetings I had in Charlotte last month.

    James Malm somewhat seems to be suggesting that the COG groups will not be in God’s Kingdom because he says that they will not accept the Elijah to come. He really needs to be more careful about what he posts.

    If in later parts of this apparent series James wishes to further indicate that he is somehow doing an Elijah-type work, he should hopefully prevent himself from going further on this, because he is not doing an Elijah-type work. James Malm is doing an error-ridden work that he should repent of."


    All of the fun can be found here: http://www.cogwriter.com/news/cog-news/error-ridden-james-malm-not-doing-an-elijah-work/

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  9. DennisCDiehlMonday, August 8, 2016 at 9:22:00 PM PDT

    It is humorous to me that the lone wolves of the Cogdom of God all talk more about being Elijahs with Elijah like attributes in them than Jesus and Jesus like attributes in them.

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  10. AnonymousMonday, August 8, 2016 at 9:23:00 PM PDT

    Malm approves of Doug Winnails 'Are You a Peacemaker" article. In a planet of billions of people with conflicting desires, how are these differences resolved. By ownership of course. By respecting borders and boundaries. By relating to others through trade, mutual consent for mutual gain.
    But no, Doug like HWA, teach the war mongering way of 'give.' Since no one wants to give, but rather get, this means ongoing fighting within the churches.
    If Doug was serious about peace, he would teach respect for rights (a taboo in the churches) respect for self interest, respect for profit, respect for trade.
    The parasites and leeches don't like my posts. Surprise, surprise.

    Cheers TradingGuy

    I sent Malm a comment that Gods way is that of trade. He refused to put my comment on his blog, and has rejected trade. Please explain Malm??

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  11. DennisCDiehlMonday, August 8, 2016 at 9:35:00 PM PDT

    Well except they like having Revelation Jesus like qualities. They don't seem to recognize a Gospel Jesus. They are not the same Jesus. One of them is the "another Jesus whom we don't preach" I suspect. Paul's Jesus was cosmic in the heavens and hallucinatory.

    II Corinthians 11:4 "Paul" complains...

    …3I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes and proclaims a Jesus other than the One we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the One you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it way too easily. 5I consider myself in no way inferior to those “super-apostles.”… (Peter, James, John?)

    Scholars are not confident Paul actually wrote 11 Corinthians but rather it was written in his name or style. The real Paul died before the Gospels were ever penned so knew no physical or Gospel Jesus in his lifetime. He certainly doesn't quote him or tell any of the Gospel tales about him that would have served his arguments better than the ones he came up with without Gospel Jesus.

    So are the COGDom Leaders. They like Paul in personality and "authority" but don't understand Paul actually negated everything they hold docrinally near and dear.

    Sorry, I stray... :)

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  12. AnonymousMonday, August 8, 2016 at 11:19:00 PM PDT

    All of you bad boys had better behave. Since Malm is now a prophet and one of the two witnesses he just might be able to call those bears out to kill you. He gleefully wrote about the bears killing all of the rebellious kids that mocked the prophet from the Old Testament.

    The other funny thing about all of this Malm mocking is that none of it would be happening if he had removed his dig against Dennis.

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  13. ChucklesTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 2:07:00 AM PDT

    Hard to believe the king of self righteousness and know it all James Malm would accuse someone else of making it a career of attacking others when he has been doing it all along, obviously he is blind to his attacks. Putting other churches of God and.their leaders down is his specialty because he disagrees with them on certain issues and of course he is right about everything. He has been causing division for years. If Dennis is waiting for James Malm to admit he was wrong (about anything) he will be waiting until kingdom come, instead all he did was through his self righteousness go on the attack, again. James is not a humble person person whereas he could admit to being wrong. He is a one man show thinking highly of himself as if he is a somebody special, he is deceived about that and has deceived others along the way. I only go by the fruits of his writings and what he has said. He will never allow any comments on his blog that prove him wrong in anything and will only post what he agrees with and things that make him look good. He does have a lot of truth in what he writes as far as Gods word goes but so do others, it's the error he adds to the truth that makes it all error, truth and error mixed confuses and divides people,

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  14. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 2:22:00 AM PDT

    Why would James Malm publicly accuse Dennis like this without any proof what so ever and then refuse to apologize for doing so. Again, in James Malm fashion he slams and accuses someone, how Godly of him. Dennis goes to him and tries to get James to see how wrong he is, like we are supposed to do, but of course James can't handle anything that would take humility and denies him. Talk about practicing what you preach, James is not only denying Dennis but he is also denying God and his word.

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  15. UnknownTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 3:39:00 AM PDT

    MAYBE...

    It was Malm that influenced the Scarboroughs to file the lawsuit against Meredith!

    Yeah, Yeah, thats it.... Ummm..... Malm with all his negativity, vitriol and hatred, counseled and made the Scarboroughs attack Roderick Meredith!

    >>>Malm pulls crap out of his rear end constantly and posts it at his pitiful site in every effort to appear to be a "somebody in the know". He has no inside scoops, tries to guess what is going on, and then package it as "exclusive reporting". Somewhere in the Bible there is a persona that is called "the father of all lies". Malm is in league with that father.

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  16. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 4:25:00 AM PDT

    "Banned is a way for those who see what we have seen and feel what we have felt about our own experiences and conclusions without judgment or even have to reveal who they are or their affiliation. 4000 views a day must mean something here is of interest to not a few."

    It's a way for many to right their personal ship and recalibrate their life compass after so many years of being gaslighted. This whole Meredith-Scarborough debacle is the result of a clear case of gaslighting within LCG.

    James Malm has instead chosen to get into the gaslighting business himself.

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  17. UnknownTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 4:42:00 AM PDT

    I think all acog's talk about "THE WORK!" Yet I've never heard John 6:29 quoted. Too simple to follow I guess. Steve Carson Jacksonville N.C.

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  18. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 5:05:00 AM PDT

    Your not doing yourself any favours with this post. It reads oddly and you come across as a school ground bully. I would guess many of your 4000 hits are actual law abiding brethren. Your website is at its strongest when you expose the real bullies out there and you allow anyone to comment. That is real freedom. Waging a war with Malm isn't going to help yourself. It looks petty.

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  19. DennisCDiehlTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:45:00 AM PDT

    The man publically printed i instigated the Scarborough lawsuit. Thats is a false accusation. I dont care if he wakes up or not. I have the right to note his printed lie

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  20. DennisCDiehlTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:49:00 AM PDT

    The favor I'm doing myself is speaking up on my own behalf. It hasnt been a lifetime skill

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  21. Sweetblood777Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:10:00 AM PDT

    James, to speak the truth, is pretty much like those that he criticizes and rebukes on an almost continuous basis. None of them would admit that they are wrong or have made a mistake. The reason for this, is that they have to keep up the facade, fearing that they would lose supporters if they are seen to be in error.

    More and more, I am getting fed up with 'religion' and the proponents of religion. I am beginning to think that the entire mess is totally unfruitful, much like facebook is becoming, and one should just 'hide' themselves, study their bibles, and just wait. Have a personal relationship with the Most High, but wait upon Him to do His will, and hope that you have enough discernment to determine what that will is, so that you can aline yourself with it, when and if it happens.

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  22. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:19:00 AM PDT

    Is Constance single?

    If so, can you host a "Win a Date With Constance" contest?

    Regards,
    "A little bit horny, a little bit COG"

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  23. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:24:00 AM PDT

    Anon5:05AM wrote:

    "Your not doing yourself any favours with this post. It reads oddly and you come across as a school ground bully. I would guess many of your 4000 hits are actual law abiding brethren. Your website is at its strongest when you expose the real bullies out there and you allow anyone to comment. That is real freedom. Waging a war with Malm isn't going to help yourself. It looks petty."

    How does defending one's own name come across as bullying? If you think it looks it looks petty to you, so what, that's just your opinion.

    Anyone who would seek to prevent anyone from defending what rightfully lies within the perimeter of his own boundaries is abusive. So, for that reason, you're the one who sounds like a bully to me!

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  24. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:30:00 AM PDT

    How much more crap does Malm have stuck up his ass?

    Should we all carry umbrellas or wear rain gear to protect ourselves for when the cork blows out of his ass???

    Regards,
    FutureCork

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  25. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:56:00 AM PDT

    Don't feel bad, Dennis. In Modern Christianity, their shit stinks so bad that they're often looking for scapegoats to cover and deflect attention from their own self-generated stinky-ness.

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  26. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:10:00 AM PDT

    Anon wrote,
    "Waging a war with Malm isn't going to help yourself. It looks petty."

    No one here is waging a war with Malm.
    Only pointing out his ridiculousness.

    It's like if you have a cow, you can count on it for needed milk.

    If there's a Malm, you can count on it for ridiculousness!

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  27. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:16:00 AM PDT

    Anyone who promotes British Israelism is a kook, liar and a con with absolutely no credibility of any kind.

    Besides being an insufferable twit.

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  28. Byker BobTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:30:00 AM PDT

    James is no different from anyone else who use the basic platform of Armstrongism as their world view and guiding paradigms. Such folk believe that depth comes from a deeper understanding of all that is inherent in that platform, and fail to realize that there is an entire world of information out there to explore in an attempt to reach greater understandings. There are those who fault HWA, and acknowledge his character flaws while still believing 98% of what HWA taught. There are those who recognize HWA's crude proof-texting mode of research, but then simply seek out more athoritative resources in their own proof-texting to validate what he taught, and then pride themselves in having the real deal. There isn't a heck of a lot of really deep thinking done in the anti-intellectual world of Armstrongism, where shallowness that barely scratches the surface of most of the deep philosophical questions and issues of human existence is considered to suffice as possessing all of the answers. People just can't help but be what they are. Their crime is attempting to teach what they think they know to others, limiting all who would follow them by claiming to be the one stop source of all pertinent information, God's revelator in this time frame, the single source for truth. Isn't that how we all got into trouble in the first place?

    BB

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  29. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:39:00 AM PDT

    TradingGuy, carrying the gospel of trade without portfolio unto all cult leaders... unsuccessfully.

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  30. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 11:37:00 AM PDT

    9.39 AM. Unsuccessful? Sort of, the leaders cannot claim ignorance come judgment day. Members in all 'Christian' churches are being robbed by predatory ministers and members, due to not knowing trade. As Christ said 'beware of the (anti trade) Pharisees.'

    Cheers TradingGuy

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  31. Byker BobTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:13:00 PM PDT

    I'd enjoy hearing from Trading Guy on a variety of different topics. Personally, I got the point of trade in one session of my post-WCG therapy, probably 25 years ago. It was good info, and I'm a business owner today, but surely even the non- entrepreneurs and retirees amongst us have all gotten TG's point by now.

    BB

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  32. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:26:00 PM PDT

    "There are those who fault HWA, and acknowledge his character flaws while still believing 98% of what HWA taught."

    Wha...???

    LOL, that's basically why this site exists!

    Capice?

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  33. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:39:00 PM PDT

    "Anyone who promotes British Israelism is a kook, liar and a con with absolutely no credibility of any kind. Besides being an insufferable twit.

    So, British Israelism is lacking?

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  34. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 1:14:00 PM PDT

    The longer Malm leaves that accusation up the more he looks like the bumbling liar that he is. He has lied about LCG, OCG, UCG and other COG's for many years now. Add to that the insane prophetic false prophecies he has predicted and you have an idiot that actually looks worse than Bob Thiel, which I thought was a hard thing to ever surpass.

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  35. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 1:54:00 PM PDT

    BB you already have been hearing from me on a variety of different topics. I don't always use the TradingGuy name. We "have all gotten the TG point by now." Dream on. We live in the entitlement culture. People are saturated by it. Most do not even comprehend ownership. I have spent hours and hours doing things for people inside and outside the church, without being able to get a cup of coffee in return. So don't tell me you have gotten the point. You and your customers treat trade as nothing more than a set of rules, no different to parking rules. Change to a informal setting, these same customers will rob you blind without feeling that they are doing anything wrong. No Bob, you 'don't get it,' neither do your retirees or the man on the street.
    PS I don't hear you talking about rights.

    Cheers TradingGuy

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  36. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 2:27:00 PM PDT

    "So, British Israelism is lacking?"

    If you have to ask....

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  37. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 3:13:00 PM PDT

    If Mr. Malm sends down fire for death and destruction, will he be arrested for murder and arson?

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  38. Byker BobTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 4:10:00 PM PDT

    TG: Obviously, you know nothing about me, or my customers. In fact it sounds as if you might be from New York City. Where I live and function is a completly different part of the country, and there is still a sense of fairness. If you don't play fair, trading equal for equal and standing behind your products, you get blackballed quickly. And usually, when there is talk of much appreciated rights, the conversation is about the Second Amendment.

    Most people have no idea that trade is what has kept us out of WWIII. But, keep on hammering. Seems like you've already got a cadre of people who are bragging about avoiding your posts.

    BB

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  39. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 4:56:00 PM PDT

    The longer Malm stays silent the worse he looks. Amazing to see the level of stupidity of the guy.

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  40. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:20:00 PM PDT

    I'm new here, one of the LCG heretics that read this blog. I am also on my way exiting the church. I have witnesses too much abuse from rod McNair and others over the years to not stay in any longer.

    I had never heard of James Malm before and I can guarantee that the overwhelming majority of LCG do not know about him either. Talk about someone blowing smoke out his ass! I am shocked anyone listens to what he has to say. I have spent decades listening to one failed prophecy after another, and yes LCG is full of them.

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  41. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:01:00 PM PDT

    I'm one more who sees "Trading Guy" and skips to the next comment. It's not like I necessarily disagree with all his points or the general point of view, it's just that the one-trick-pony obsession with the pet doctrine hobby horse gets old real fast. The fixation alone is very unappealing to me. And it's not like that point of view necessarily answers any important questions or offers some kind of a panacea. It's just like, "Yeah, so what? Big deal."

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  42. GlennTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 7:17:00 PM PDT

    OK, I re-read part of Ms. Scarborough's posting and saw that they were suing on the basis of slander and wanted an apology and "peace" with LCG. I can see where getting an apology would be very satisfying. The best way to have peace without an apology would be to just walk away and leave that insane world behind without looking back.

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  43. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:06:00 PM PDT

    Anon at 7:01

    I agree completely! Not every post or comment here has to have some connection to "trade." Is ridiculous to claim so. I too skip those comments. I am a capitalist all the way and agree with trade, but I do not care to read about it here, particularly when religion is the topic. Its as tiring as reading Malm's false prophecies and lies. Give it a rest!

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  44. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:06:00 PM PDT

    Trading Guy="One trick pony obsession"

    That sums it up nicely.

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  45. RSKTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:53:00 PM PDT

    How dare you all! TradingGuy is just recapturing true values in capitalism. Shut your filthy commie mouths! (Lol)

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  46. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:25:00 PM PDT

    Herbie and his minions were and are a morally one trick pony called the 'give way.' I do not hear complaints about this. Prior to HWAs death, they had three monthly publications, the Plain Truth, the World wide news, the Good News magazine. Just about every article was bait and switch, ending in give, help, serve etc. Never any mention of trade. Many people have never heard that Gods way is trade. It is the core of how we relate to others. Feel free to skip my articles BB, since the world is not run for your convenience. Church members are being ripped off by lack of understanding, yet you complain about me, not the deceitful, mind twisting ministers. Where are you coming from??

    Cheers TradingGuy.
    How can I not know about you with your many posts?

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  47. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:42:00 PM PDT

    Oh give it a rest! What the hell do you think everyone does here but discuss the deceitful mind-twisting ministers of the COG? You are starting to sounds as pathetic and desperate as James Malm.

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  48. AnonymousTuesday, August 9, 2016 at 11:29:00 PM PDT

    10.42 PM BB keeps condemning British-Israelism. Dennis keeps repeating that God and the bible is a myth. Yet I don't hear 'Oh give it a rest,' or that is a 'one truck pony.' How about consistency.
    I have never responded to any poster that way myself.

    Cheers TradingGuy

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  49. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 12:45:00 AM PDT

    The diff TG may be the site is about the gripe both church and Bible had on those who took a good look at it because of all the church drama and wanna be's it attracted and not commerce or Wall Street. Lots of ways and approaches to discuss. "It's a trade" not so interesting over and over as the answer to it all. It would be a sermon every week that got real old fast

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  50. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 1:00:00 AM PDT

    Trading Guy. It's like "it's Satan world and the cure is God's Kingdom" as the answer every time. Boring.

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  51. Byker BobWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 2:04:00 AM PDT

    Dennis offered Malm a trade. But, Malm doesn't know the truth about trade, so he won't do his half.

    ;~} BB

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  52. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 2:10:00 AM PDT

    1.00AM I have witnessed church members refusing to pay their restaurant bill, demanding others members pay. This was not uncommon. I have witnessed people playing king of the mountain by refusing others the right to express a opinion. I have witnessed elders trying to put an obligation on some members to serve the needs of deadbeat others.
    None of these victims has the intellectual, moral confident to say no with out reference to trade. I don't recall one other person here affirming what I say.
    I do not believe the victims of such mistreatment think their defense of trade as 'boring' etc. I have been reading church literature for over 50 years, and have never seen the word trade, yet people here treat me as the weirdo.
    Your analogy of 'the cure is God's Kingdom' can only be partially correct at best.

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    1. AnonymousThursday, August 11, 2016 at 4:45:00 AM PDT

      I have no idea who you are nor what this 'trade' stuff is all about but what you list as having witnessed I too have witnessed such behaviour. It has to be seen to be believed. May God help and have mercy on us all in such sick times in which we live.

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  53. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 4:57:00 AM PDT

    Why be mean to TG? It seems like he's being bullied. The thing I love about this site is that we are all free to express out opinions without ridicule. We all have our hang-ups and obsessions. Let's stay on focus here and stop acting like the mean girls in high school. If you don't like his posts then skim over them and move on.

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  54. RSKWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 5:18:00 AM PDT

    TradingGuy, a voice crying out in the willllllderness of economic confuuusion!

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  55. nckWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 8:45:00 AM PDT

    11.29
    That is because bi is 200% about trade. It is the very epithome of the "white mans (anglo's) burden. As henry ford and the skulls knew and know


    Nck

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  56. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 9:12:00 AM PDT

    Why be mean to Herbert W Armstrong?

    It seems like he's being bullied. The thing I love about this site is that we are all free to express our opinions without ridicule.

    We all have our hang-ups and obsessions. Let's stay on focus here and stop acting like the mean girls in high school.
    If you don't like Herbert W Armstrong's excellent teachings, then skim over them and move on.

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  57. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 9:46:00 AM PDT

    Maybe TradingGuy is like a spiritually immature guy- Sort of like a pubescent young man who gets a boner whenever he sees people of the opposite sex, and concludes that everything is a "boner issue"!

    Perhaps, with time, TradingGuy will mature past his current phase, and be able to recognize greater nuance in things he sees so narrow-mindedly today. There's certainly a larger world awaiting his discovery.

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    1. RSKWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 10:36:00 AM PDT

      Oh dear. Now you've prepared the way for the gospel of boners. I hope you are ready to witness what you have loosed. ;)

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  58. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 10:04:00 AM PDT

    TradingGuy writes: "BB, ... you complain about me, not the deceitful, mind twisting ministers. Where are you coming from??"


    TradingGuy, is it true that you've missed the last several hundred posts of Byker Bob's, in which he complained about those crappy ministers?

    Either the interwebs are playing tricks on you, or your own brain is.

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  59. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 10:51:00 AM PDT

    Nothing has been loosed. TradingGuy still has a firm grip on the subject in hand.

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  60. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 11:42:00 AM PDT

    9.46 AM. Very funny. Ha ha ha. The anti trade attitude in America is about to crash the economy. I don't think people will be telling boner jokes then
    Bob complained about the ministers, but what alternative did he offer? Respect for personal rights?? Has he ever mentioned the role of government? Why government? Compare his comments to 'The law' by Frederic Bastiat. Yes, I've read the book. It's not me who's not connected to the larger world.


    Cheers TradingGuy

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  61. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 12:46:00 PM PDT

    Hello TradingGuy,
    How do you think Mr. Trump's or Mrs. Clinton's trade ideas would be, for the USA's economy?
    Please don't hold back in your answer.
    Regards,
    Bargain Bob

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  62. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 12:52:00 PM PDT

    TradingGuy, because you read a book written in 1850 does not make you "connected to the larger world"!

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  63. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 1:35:00 PM PDT

    12.52 PM I have read many books written in the nineteenth century. They say things that today's political correctness does not allow. I want to read all points of view, and decide for myself, rather than letting Herbie or the mainstream media decide for me. Gustavo Le Bon is another of my favourite authors. I have read several of his books
    And I didn't say that I just read one book.

    Bargsin Bob, according to Ludwig von Moses, it's Americas economic isolationism that encouraged Japan and Germany to go to war, since both were dependent on foreign trade. So Trumps trade policies are dangerous. Mrs Clintons expanding nanny state will crash the economy. So both politicians policies are scary.

    Cheers TradingGuy

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  64. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 7:15:00 PM PDT

    "Trumps trade policies are dangerous. Mrs Clintons expanding nanny state will crash the economy."

    Does that mean you're not gonna vote, TradingGuy?

    BTW, are you aware that her husband's policies as President coincided with an economic expansion that stands as the longest boom in U.S. history?

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  65. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 7:18:00 PM PDT

    I thought Germany went to war because Hitler was a nutcase.

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  66. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 9:04:00 PM PDT

    Did someone misspell the name of the nutcase Ludwig von Mises?

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  67. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 11:14:00 PM PDT

    Steve Carson said... I think all acog's talk about "THE WORK!" Yet I've never heard John 6:29 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] quoted. Too simple to follow I guess. Steve Carson Jacksonville N.C.


    Great point, Steve, especially in regards to LCG, who thinks it is doing the "most important work on the face of the earth." But let me ask, do they have any intent to "make disciples" as Jesus commanded in Matt 28? If so, show me. Do they have any intent to baptize, as Jesus commanded? If so, where would I see that LCG goal? As you said Steve, do they have any intention doing John 6:29 and turning non-believers into believers? If so, show me that is their intent. Do they have any intent to do as Paul did in 1 Cor 9:22 "that by any means I might save some"? Do they realize the goal of Mark's Great Commission is that people be saved? Answers? No, no, no, no, and no. Yet they have the audacity to say they are doing a "powerful" work, when all they do sit in their cushy studio doing something Jesus never commanded us to do, namely, preach the gospel to the world as a witness. In fact, they put forth all their effort doing something Jesus never told us to do, while not doing what He did tell us to do! No, Christianity is about changing the real lives of real people. Getting down there in the nitty-gritty of real life and making a difference. But no, LCG will just buy TV time, and leave the rest up to God.

    LCG Expositor

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  68. AnonymousWednesday, August 10, 2016 at 11:42:00 PM PDT

    7.15 AM The expansion since Reagan has been built and fueled by economic debt. It is a house built on sand, with the predictable outcome of economic ruin. Hitler needs to be respected as a accurate embodiment and physical manifestation of the German people. Calling him a nutcase is a over simplification. The Germans at the time loved and worshiped the man.
    9.04 PM my spell checker-corrector seems to have a life of its own. Mises and Milton Friedman and similar, are regarded as nutcases because of their 'there aint no free lunch' policies. It's the shoot the messenger reaction.

    Cheers TradingGuy

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  69. AnonymousThursday, August 11, 2016 at 2:11:00 PM PDT

    Interesting. Dennis' August 8 comment on Shining Light has been removed, and the post has been edited to read "It appears that the Scarborough’s really had no case after all, and this seems to have been egged on and possibly even orchestrated by the anti God website Banned by HWA."
    Poof! Evidence of libel gone!

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  70. RSKThursday, August 11, 2016 at 6:47:00 PM PDT

    Heh, I don't think NO2HWA or any of us regulars knew the Scarboroughs prior to their case either, but he has to set up some kind of big bad nefarious, ghostly enemy just to support his case.

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  71. AnonymousFriday, August 12, 2016 at 10:44:00 AM PDT

    "[T]he leaders cannot claim ignorance come judgment day. Members in all 'Christian' churches are being robbed by predatory ministers and members, due to not knowing trade. As Christ said 'beware of the (anti trade) Pharisees.' Cheers TradingGuy"

    Here's a 'truth" for ya:
    The wackiest, kookiest and most mentally deluded purveyors of religious ideas are those who skate on the thin ice of their supposed sanity and tell people, "You'll be sorry on Judgement Day if you don't heed these mighty truthy words!"

    It's a bold yet desperate attempt to sure-up something in one's mind, whose foundations have largely unraveled.

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  72. AnonymousSaturday, August 13, 2016 at 3:20:00 AM PDT

    10.44AM there is manipulation, and there is truth. You lump both together, as if truth doesn't exist.

    Cheers TradingGuy

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  73. AnonymousSaturday, August 13, 2016 at 3:31:00 AM PDT

    10.44 AM it's the ministers wet dream to able to say come judgment day "but Lord, the reason I ignored trade is because Herbie and his publications made no mention of it. If I had known trade, l would have applied, and taught it, honest."
    I am trying to deny these lying ministers this excuse, yet you critics me, not them.
    Whose side are you on, the ministers or their victims.
    Are you a minister or a son of a minister?

    Cheers TradingGuy

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