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A massive worldwide earthquake was prophesied to happen on October 11/12 that would have destroyed most of humanity. As usual, this Church of God false prophet was wrong. A person would think after 80 some years of these asinine prophecies failing that people would keep their mouths shut, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It is now late in the evening on October 15th and no major quake has happened, other than the usual 6.0 earthquakes that hit the Papua, New Guinea region on a regular basis. No huge issues there to report either.
Here is the excuse that the
itstimecog.com came out with:
Even with this excuse there is not one thing claimed below that is correct.
UPDATED OCT. 15
Please pass this around.
I was in grievous error when I attributed the earthquake of Revelation 6:12 and 14 to the Day of Atonement.
That was a mistake on my part as the Day of Atonement actually depicts God sealing those He has chosen, it does NOT depict Him taking them into the wilderness.
In Revelation 11:1, we find John being given the task of “measuring” the Church in its entirety. The Day of Atonement is when that judgment is finalized.
This is one of the decree’s of that judgment: Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Let’s delve into this a little deeper as these also depict events that transpire on the Day of Atonement.
Revelation 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
Verses 15:6-7 depicts the angels about to pour out the Great Tribulation.
Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
Verse 8 should rock you to the core. Why? Because once the judgment is complete on the Day of Atonement, “no man was able to enter into the temple”. In other words, you’re cut off from God and Revelation 22:11 is in effect.
Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Once that judgment is complete, Christ said He would come quickly. How quickly?
I do firmly believe that the Holy Days depict prophetic events and the Holy Days just after the Day of Atonement are the Feast of Tabernacles.
The Feast of Tabernacles depicts God’s people leaving their homes and dwelling “where God places His name”. Part of that depiction is that God will dwell with His people.
Does that sound a lot like Christ returning to gather His people and taking them into the wilderness?
Notice what He says in Luke regarding the start of the Great Tribulation: Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Obviously, if one is to “stand before the Son of Man” in the place where they “escape all these things”, both Christ and the chosen must be in the wilderness.
Now, about the earthquakes. The one spoken of in Revelation 16:18 and 20, happens at Christ’s return to conquer the nations.
Revelation 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Revelation 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
The earthquake in Revelation 6:12 and 14 also depict Christ returning but with a different intent. He is coming to gather His chosen, who in turn will be protected from all the topographical changes and horrors, that take place during the Great Tribulation.
Let's move on to other topics.
Yes, lets move quickly on hoping that people will forget the latest COG lie. Typical.
ReplyDeleteMassive Worldwide Earthquake Fails to Happen and the Excuses Start Flying”
Why give the lying pervert a measly Four Pinnocchios? The itstimecog's lies deserve a rating of at least Thirteen Pinnocchios.
ReplyDeleteSure, keep it coming, itstimecog. People love to be endlessly lied to and robbed by demon-inspired dungheads like you.
Thought he wasn't going to need a Plan B. And why does this sealing / judgement thing sound familiar?
ReplyDeleteIn Armstrongism, the quickest way to attract attention to yourself and to your work and teaching is to make a shocking prophecy. The guys who do this know in advance that for some incomprehensible reason, the followers of Herbert W. Armstrong do not hold their leaders responsible for having made false prophecies. They actually make excuses for them after the prophecies fail. That level of indoctrination is beyond bad!
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ReplyDelete“Whether we believe it or not, this IS going to happen next October.”
Whether we believe it or not, this IS NOT going to happen next October.
Looks like it is now time for itstimecog.con to get working on its next, wrong, time-wasting, prophetic guess. Maybe it could even prepare in advance an excuse for why that guess failed too. Why wait until after it has failed and then scramble to make up more lies for why it did not happen when predicted? It is already known that it will fail because it comes from a chronic liar. So at least put in some effort to come up with an imaginative and original excuse for when it fails, instead of using all the usual, old, worn out, boring excuses that all the lazy, lying, false prophets always resort to using after they have lied to people, made off with their money, and left them wondering what happened (or why nothing happened). You will never tell the plain truth and admit that you are just another person whose mother never taught him not to lie. So, go ahead and spread it on thick enough to be worth reading, because the same old same old fiction writing is getting so boring. Include some humor so people can laugh with you instead of just at you.
Check the last lines on his current page.
DeleteI believe there are people who are attempting to clean up or reform Armstrongism. We know this because they have interacted with us on several of the blogs. The problem is, they are fighting the much larger circus of Armstrongism, the one that looms so large in the eyes of whatever small portion of the general public actually knows about them, or might tend to be attracted. So long as the major groups refuse to rid themselves of the ridiculousness, the reformers will never succeed in making Armstrongism palatable and therefore marketable again. Really, the best steps they could take would be to assume the posture of a low key Messianic group, totally elliminate prophecy since they obviously have zero understanding of that subject, and become more involved as a lifestyle, interacting with and giving back to the communities in which they function. Then and only then will trust be built. It also wouldn't hurt if they made a concerted effort to correct and avoid the types of activities that tend to land their horror stories on the Exit and Support Network. Kind of like what business people do regarding the negative comments directed at them through Yelp.
DeleteThe big question that remains is whether their core group would allow them to make such changes. Fear of losing them is, imo, what retards any meaningful progress that those who are concerned with growth might envision making. To have any future relevance or impact, they need to shed the present cultic aura.
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Prophecies fail because this time, God was in the bathroom.
ReplyDelete"Eventually" is probably the only safe way to date a prophetic event.
ReplyDeleteIf itstimecog hadn't posted to this blog, I don't think anyone would have noticed him. He was too low on the radar for Bob Thiel to denounce.
Why do they do it? Perhaps Oscar Wilde answered that when he said, The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
According to the internet, William Shatner is worth $650 million dollars. He can buy his own starship with that money. Sure beats living in his truck after his divorce. I wonder if he can lend me a hundred bucks?
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ReplyDeleteThe PLAIN TRUTH about “RELATIONSHIPS” with FALSE PROPHETS
Here is the plain truth about how so-called “relationships” with so-called “COG” false prophets actually work.
The so-called “COG” false prophet's role in the “relationship” is to blatantly make up endless, ridiculous lies and pretend that he is doing it all for God and to help the world. It is his job to convince you that God sent him to tell all those lies.
Your role in the “relationship” is to listen to the endless, ridiculous lies that the false prophet makes up, and not to show a bad attitude by asking why his prophetic guesses ALWAYS fail (especially when the guesser subscribes to Stratfor to try to figure out the future, and/or gets insider tips from demons through pagan prophecies, and/or claims to be That Prophet, and/or Elijah the Prophet, and/or Joshua the High Priest, and/or one or even both of the Two Witnesses of Revelation, and/or Christ in the Flesh, etc.).
Your role in the “relationship” will gradually expand to take on more and more responsibility for financially supporting the lazy, lying, worth-less-than-nothing, false prophet as he develops more and more expensive tastes. The false prophet's role in the “relationship” will increasingly become to do as he pleases because he is so great that the laws of God do not apply to him, and God just cannot get by without him. The more lies the false prophet tells, the more sins he commits, and the more failed prophetic guesses he racks up, the more indispensable he becomes, and the more great titles he deserves to give himself. Your role in the “relationship” becomes to tremble in fear of the false prophet's temper tantrums, and to hand over everything you have to support the satanic control freak so that he will not condemn you to be tossed into the lake of fire.
The false prophet's role in the “relationship” is to flatter you and tell you how informed and righteous you are if you listen to all his lies, hand over your money to him, and do whatever he tells you to do. Your role in the “relationship” is to become ignorant, cut yourself off from all sources of true knowledge, stubbornly refuse to think for yourself, and do whatever the false prophet tells you to do.
The false prophet's role in the “relationship” is to become so omniscient and omnipotent in his own beady little eyes that he can tell you when to divorce your own mate, abandon your own children, reject and dishonor your own parents, etc. Your role in the “relationship” is to become so brain-dead and impotent that you have to be told what to do in every little matter, maybe even matched up with old sex perverts in the cult, and treated like the mindless retard that you will have actually become.
In the end, you will have become the accomplice of a lying, thieving, destroying, killing, false prophet and will have helped him to harm other people. The lying, thieving, destroying, killing, false prophet will have at least got some spending cash for his sinning. All you will have got for your own sin of supporting him is financially drained and a major blot on your life record for having supported a lying, thieving, destroying, killing, false prophet. You will also have become so desensitized to chronic evil behavior that you will not really see what is so bad about a lifetime of lying and doing evil in God's name.
The “relationship” dynamics in satanic imposter cults led by raging false prophets on the so-called COG scene are very interesting. They are also best observed from a safe distance.
To BB
ReplyDelete"The level of indoctrination is beyond bad."
And there are worse.
Support for "God" has to first be dealt with. As long as people believe in the God myth there will always be thieves and false prophets who will gladly take their money. AC was used by HWA to train a great many crooks how to run the religion business. We both have known many of them.
Jim
"I was in grievous error when I attributed the earthquake of Revelation 6:12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available) and 14 to the Day of Atonement. That was a mistake on my part as blah blah blah...Let's move on to other topics."
ReplyDeleteIOW, "Okay, okay, so I was wrong. Don't remind me." And how long until we see, "But here's my next grievous error which IS going to happen, whether we believe it or not)" ...right up until it doesn't.
"I do firmly believe that the Holy Days depict prophetic events and the Holy Days just after the Day of Atonement are the Feast of Tabernacles."
I understand that you firmly believe this. But you might as well keep it to yourself. To mention it goes less than nowhere toward establishing the veracity of anything and offers others no reason whatsoever to suspect you might be more right this time than you were last time.
"Due to the obvious FAILURE of what I had firmly believed to be the sequence of prophetic events, I have in shame and apologize, closed this site.
ReplyDeleteMy intent was never to frighten but rather to make people aware in hopes they would realize the times and act accordingly. Be that a need to draw closer to God and/or spend time with loved ones.
Again, please accept my most profound apologize for any turmoil I may have caused in your life.
Henry"
Well, there you have it- you'll never get an apology like this from a real ACOG leader...
Kudos, Henry!
Ronco
Good move, Henry. Well done sir.
ReplyDelete*IF* I correctly understood him a couple of days ago, he had decided that October 11/12 was actually a day God had completed a list of names and would be yanking people off to (Petra? Or wherever) at the start of Tabernacles. Maybe right after the opening night guy said "Brethren, why are we here?", I don't know. And of course, everyone who doubted him was self-righteous and what not. (The guy thinks he's figured out the Divine Plan, and wants to call others self-righteous???)
ReplyDeleteWell, that didn't happen either, so it appears Henry finally chose the straight path and said "OK, I'm obviously wrong, mea culpa. I'm going to stop now and not cause anyone issues."
Which you WON'T find happening in the case of multiple COG wannabe Herberts who need sheep to milk for money to support them. For that, I definitely would give Henry props.
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"I believe there are people who are attempting to clean up or reform Armstrongism. We know this because they have interacted with us on several of the blogs."
Are you talking about Ian Boyne among others?
I agree that the "Humpty Dumpty" of Armstrongism is beyond repair.
Beyond the few truths HWA told (like it's good to dry yourself off with a towel after a shower), there are some other nagging truths about HWA-
Nagging truth #1 - HWA was a false prophet.
Nagging truth #2 - HWA was a vain, ungodly, conceited, egotistical, narcissistic, greedy megalomaniac.
Nagging truth #3 - HWA repeatedly raped his daughter.
Nagging truth #4 - HWA was a mass murderer. Untold numbers in the WCG died because they believed in his "divine healing" crap and used anointed cloths instead of seeking actual medical intervention to avoid deaths which were often preventable.
Such deaths were actually CAUSED by HWA's tactics which members followed, in order to avoid TLOF.
ReplyDeleteWhy are some of those here so quick to praise Henry the con of itstimecog.con infamy for admitting--for now--that his October 11/12, 2016 prophetic date guess contained a “mistake”? Is Henry going to refund any of the money that the DONATE button at his website collected?
Is everyone here so used to totally shameless, unrepentant, lying, false prophets that if any of them ever even so much as admits that one of his prophetic date guesses contained a “mistake” they get praised as some sort of national hero who did what almost none of them has ever done before? Is a false prophet, who preaches false prophecies but then claims that he is not a (false) prophet after his prophecy proves false, really such a great example of an honest and decent and trustworthy person?
Personally, I'll save my respect and praise for those who were never crazy enough to make up wrong prophetic guesses in the first place.
I've tried to take this apart again and again in the nether regions of my mind, and although there can be many factors involved, It's just "foreign" to me. What motivates an individual to prophesy? Or, not even to prophesy, just to interpret scripture and the news so that it takes on a prophetic intent.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a lot younger, someone shared a prophetic vision with me that has never in any way panned out. It was a personal thing which aligned itself with the basic HWA prophecy package. The parts that related to me went directly against my personality traits and talents (if any), so I was always very suspicious, but the thing is, I'm sure the person who shared it was sincere, and thought that the "vision" that led to it was very real. The fact is, I have no idea what produced the alleged vision, only that time and passage of some of the critical elements have rendered it undeniably false.
HWA used to shut down the people who thought they were prophets. But then again, his legendary temper is what had caused all of the "unity" which we ever thought we saw in the church. Now, "prophets" are coming out of the woodwork.
Are these people sincere? Did Dave Pack actually expect three of his competitors to experience spontaneous human combustion? Did he really believe that their congregations would beat a path to RCG? Did Eric King really believe that some sort of portal beneath the oceans was releasing massive numbers of demons? Has Ron Weinland been convinced to the depths of his core that Jesus would return each time he set a date for that event? What produces these dogmatic pronouncements? Ego? Mental problems? Desperation for an end that never comes? Working up a spiritual frenzy, or euphoric condition, similar to what is observable during the services in a charismatic or Pentecostal church? Studying the Bible, and assuming that suddenly you see something totally unique that everyone else had missed?
The penalties outlined in the same Bible that contains prophecy are amongst the most severe. Knowing this, do the aspiring prophets believe that they have the witness of God behind them? If so, when God fails to validate them, why do they continue to insist that they or their mentor were right? You would think that all of them would react as Henry actually did. How many times have we heard people say that that is what they would do, but when it comes time to fish or cut bait, they cut bait.
The only takeaway from all of this is that prophecy in Armstrong (and other) circles has been unreliable for the purpose of planning and patterning one's life. And if they told you that God granted them insight because they observed and obeyed the proper doctrines, there is insurmountable sususpicion in that as well. Basically, it's a huge problem, because identity, prophecy, punishment, and a place of safety were the hook by which HWA marketed his religion, and built his empire. Time to move on!
BB
ReplyDeleteByker Bob said...
“I've tried to take this apart again and again in the nether regions of my mind, and although there can be many factors involved, It's just 'foreign' to me. What motivates an individual to prophesy?”
HINT: Think about the DONATE button at Henry's website, Bob. Think about the DONATE button!
When I checked the site out briefly a couple months ago, 3:59, I didn't see any donate button. It would be interesting to know how many people donated, and whether he returned those donations following his apology.
ReplyDeleteSome of the other "prophets" are constantly complaining that nobody supports them. If I were a grifter looking to lay down a lucrative con, prophecy doesn't appear too terribly profitable, except for established ministers who are well known in Armstrong circles. Obviously Ron Weinland made millions, Dave Pack certainly got his wad's worth, and Gerald Flurry has international holdings. But, the little guys? Not so much. If you were once one of the big guys' toadies, and went on your own, it looks like your future doesn't exactly require Ray Bans
BB
At one point, he griped that he had not gotten even a word of thanks from anyone, much less donations.
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ReplyDeleteRSK said...“At one point, he griped that he had not gotten even a word of thanks from anyone, much less donations.”
Good!
Nobody should financially support a lying false prophet. Furthermore, nobody should thank a lying false prophet for telling his false prophecy. When the lying false prophet's false prophecy fails, and he then wants to claim that he is not a (false) prophet, nobody should admire the lying false prophet for trying to weasel out of accepting his well-deserved shame. If the lying false prophet really did not get any money from any suckers, then he could possibly argue that he was technically a non-profit false prophet. Lying false prophets are always unprofitable to their hearers. It is totally appropriate when lying false prophets are unprofitable to themselves as well.