In last nights stunning win by Donald Trump to be the next President of the United States we expected certain COG leaders to praise Trump's win because so many COG groups tend lean to the conservative side, even though they don't vote...unless of course you are in UCG or LCG.
Trump's win also brings out the nutcases from the loony bin. James Malm and Bob Thiel are predicting the end times to begin in 2017 and the immediate downfall of the United States. These two liars are constantly being eaten away by conspiracy theories and idiotic end times malarkey.No matter how you feel about Trump or Clinton, it is apparent these two men (Malm & Thiel) represent the bottom of the barrel for Armstrongism.
James Malm had this to say:
For those who don’t know; Trump is Jesuit trained [Georgetown University] and won because of overwhelming backing by the Catholic mobilized “Christian” denominations including the Catholic Church, Evangelicals and Protestants [also supported by the COG organizations]. Trump is the choice of the Roman Catholic Church [particularly the Jesuits] to bring about the New World Order of a New Federal Catholic Europe.Those damn evil Jesuits! They put Joseph Tkach in office in the WCG just like they did Trump! What is this world coming to??????
The lying Pharisee continues with this:
Malm is already bitter that 99% of the COG groups think he is crazier than hell. What really is ticking him off is that no one is pay9ing attention to him, especially since he is one of the two witless witnesses. How dare these COG groups reject him????1. Watch for the Neocons to now redouble efforts to take down the Islamic State and bring a confrontation with Russia as soon as they can; to set the conditions for the rise of a New Federal Europe.2. Watch for the fall of the Israeli government and a broader Mideast war involving Israel against Hamas and Hezbollah and a contrived confrontation between East and West.3. Watch for crises in Europe which will open the way for the setting up of a pope doing miracles in the Vatican, who will call for a New Federal Europe.4. Watch for Trump and the Senate to jump on the bandwagon of this pope and his call for a New Federal Europe, being eager to extricate America from the heavy obligations and expense of NATO.5. Once Trump has aided the miracle worker in creating the coming New Federal Europe by giving it the assets of NATO; watch for a peace deal to be declared and for this miracle worker to go to the holy place about 75 days after being empowered; triggering the immediate occupation of Jerusalem and invasion of Judea.The 2,300 Day Prophecy reveals that these things could be fulfilled in 2017 or shortly thereafter!
Because all of the COG groups reject Malm, they will not know when the tribulation begins, all because they have NO ZEAL!6. Watch for God’s two servants to be set up – AFTER the miracle worker in the Vatican is set up – accompanied by all the biblically described signs: Only to be rejected by the COG groups claiming that God’s servants are Satan’s agents trying to prevent them from doing their supposed 3 1/2 year Elijah work during a time between a peace deal and the tribulation.
Malm is either talking out of his ass again or is letting his wiccan sidekick tell him how things should be.Once a peace deal is reached and declared, immediate tribulation will come (1Thess 5:3, Mat 24:15). No, there will NOT be any 3 1/2 year period before the tribulation begins; and these organizations which have absolutely NO zeal to live by every Word of God like Elijah did: Will NOT do the Elijah work of turning people to zealously live by every Word of God!7. Watch for the New Europe [Assur being Germany, Austria, Hungary] to become the darling of the Islamic countries – except Egypt – (Psalm 83) by aiding them in occupying the Jewish State in the name of peace; thereby bringing a move away from the Petro-Dollar to the currency of the New Europe.8. From there the dollar driven Anglo Saxon countries will spiral down into collapse as the tribulation progresses.
Then there is Almost Arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Joshua Doubly Blessed Bob Thiel. He is just as crazy in his beliefs as Malm is.As I have been writing since last year, a Donald Trump presidency will be apocalyptic. A President Donald Trump will do many things that will lead to the end of the USA and the start of the Great Tribulation. While that would have been true of Hillary Clinton if she won, the reality is that she lost.
During the Feast of Tabernacles in Aurora, Illinois, I told the audience that it would be the winner of the presidential election that would be bad for the USA
- The timing of his rise in political prominence. The 6000 years that God gave humans to run matters on their own is almost over. We in the last days of God’s plan. A day to God is like 1000 years (2 Peter 3:8; Psalm 90:4), and since it is wise to know the days (Psalm 90:12), this is a reason that Donald Trump would be apocalyptic. It may be that only one or a few presidential terms are left before the start of the Great Tribulation and the fulfillment of related prophecies in the Book of Revelation. By virtue of his timing(as well as his actual planned and unplanned actions) are enough to contribute to the fulfillment of various end-time prophecies.
- In 2015, Donald Trump basically said he never repented. The God of the Bible expects leaders to encourage repentance and moral behaviors when they are subject to destructive punishment (cf. Jonah 3:6-9). Donald Trump, like many other U.S. politicians, does not seem to believe that the U.S.A. needs to repent for its sins against God. Yet, without national repentance, the U.S.A. is doomed for destruction (Isaiah 30:12-13; Daniel 11:39). Of course, people are supposed to pray for political leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-3), and that should be done irrespective if one agrees with the leader. Sometimes, leaders and/or their policies change.
- Donald Trump is an admitted adulterer, strip club and casino owner, and married a woman who was professionally engaged in pornogrpahy. By encouraging and not discouraging aspects of biblical immorality, Donald Trump is setting the U.S.A. up for punishment (Isaiah 30:12-13; Romans 1:18-32) that has and will include troubles, violence, weather problems, earthquakes, food shortages, and pestilences (Mark 13:7-8; Luke 21:10-11). The time will come when, these problems will further worsen.
- Donald Trump repeatedly has stated that he will “make America great again.” Biblically, he has not given reasons for that to be the case. Morally, economically, and militarily, the USA has been in decline (though the military decline is still more relative to the climb of others). The Bible warns repeatedly that false declarations of peace and safety will lead to end time destruction (1 Thessalonians 5:3; Jeremiah 6:14-15).
Thiel then claims that the tribulation may start in 2020, but may start within one year of Trump being President.
- His religious views hint that he is somewhat ‘ecumenical.’ An ecumenical power is warned about in the Bible and is expected to rise up in the end times (Zechariah 2:6-8; Revelation 17; 18). I expect him to make ecumenical supporting statements.
Please realize that the Great Tribulation, itself, cannot begin until at least 2020 (and likely later than that; watch also Can the Great Tribulation begin before 2020?). It may possibly begin in a year that Donald Trump could be president. He may well take military, economic, cultural, and other steps that could lead to it if in the presidential office by then. Ultimately, the USA will be destroyed (Daniel 11:39; Habakkuk 2:6-8).
If Donald Trump will turn to God, and more in the USA will as well, then “Perhaps there may be a lengthening of your prosperity.”
President-elect Donald Trump is apocalyptic. Pray.In 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, the world will go on, the sun will rise on a new day and Armstrongite false prophets will still be lying and stealing money from gullible followers
There are more sane patients in mental institutions.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it again, that these lads have followers?
Right.
Patients in mental institutions.
Fact check (from Time magazine):
ReplyDelete"For Trump, his two years at Fordham University, a Jesuit school in the Bronx, seem to leave little impact on his life. After his sophomore year, Trump transferred to the Ivy league University of Pennsylvania.
"What compelled him to transfer from his hometown Jesuit university? “I decided that as long as I had to be in college, I might as well test myself against the best,” Trump said.
"Ouch."
It should be noted that Tim Kane is a Jesuit trained Catholic.
No win either way.
And how quickly we forget.
Remember all the hyperbole surrounding John F. Kennedy for President? The very nervous paranoids claimed that if he won the Presidency, the whole country would become Catholic and be ruled over by the Pope?
It never happened.
And that, friends, is exactly what we have come to expect from the kooks of the Cult of Herbert Armstrong Mafia (CoHAM).
It would be nice some time if the Armstrongists would get their facts straight, but, unfortunately, we'll all have to wait a long time for that.
you wrote: "Thiel then claims that the tribulation may start in 2020, but may start within one year of Trump being President. "
ReplyDeleteThat is not what Bob said. Here is what he did say:
"Please realize that the Great Tribulation, itself, cannot begin until at least 2020 (and likely later than that; watch also Can the Great Tribulation begin before 2020?). It may possibly begin in a year that Donald Trump could be president. "
All Bob is saying is that the tribulation might start at some point while Trump is still president.
How predictable and ridiculous! And from all reports, we've got Europe not threatening to arm themselves, but struggling to understand the implications, and to adjust. A Trump presidency is not going to be the silver bullet needed by the Armstrong prophecy mold to launch the tribulation, beast power, and end times.
ReplyDeleteAs election season drew to a close, I became concerned about several downward trending areas: 1) Our Second Amendment rights, and how important they are in protecting all of the rights expounded in the other amendments. 2) The appointment of justices to the Supreme Court who may or may not understand our founding documents. 3) The gross fiscal irresponsibility that has led to unsustainable national debt. 4) The cost of healthcare, escalating wildly as a result of the so-called "Affordable Healthcare Act", and 5) The radical changes to Section 8 housing that would have deliberately ghettoized the entire USA, much the same as it has in the pilot program in the Dallas area. Because of the ways in which these five concerns will now be addressed, in spite of other reservations, I feel that there will at least be some positives forthcoming from the choice of the voters.
Although I am no longer concerned over worst case scenarios in these 5 areas. I am very concerned that if a radical and sudden approach is taken in reversing Democrat fiscal policies, we could find ourselves in recession worse than that of 1982-83.
Regardless as to what transpires during this or any presidency, the ACOG leaders' DNA has been altered by Armstrongism, so that they will continue to trondle out the vomit of the HWA prophecy mold. It's all they know to do. I also have to laugh at their continued use of an antiquated term left over from the Bush-Cheney years - "Neocon". People also continued to use the term "hippie" decades after that faded from influence as a national youth trend. I suspect that neither term embodies a method of self-identification. It's the sort of thing where you don't know you are one until others call you by the label.
BB
"A President Donald Trump will do many things that will lead to the end of the USA and the start of the Great Tribulation. While that would have been true of Hillary Clinton if she won..."
ReplyDeleteTrump will do many things that Clinton would have done as well.
So....either way, Bob would have been right? Pretty convenient for him!
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I seem to recall James Malm putting a comment on his blog several months ago that if Clinton won, it would signal a sped-up timeline of events; if Trump won, then it would be a signal that perhaps God is giving the world more time.
ReplyDeleteCan't find it anymore, even with Google--so I wonder if he's taken that comment down, since it conflicts with his new post.
"Trump will do many things that Clinton would have done as well."
ReplyDeleteNope. They can only hope for that......
Forcing an issue will take some time and a whole lot of money!
These people should be teaching and magnifying Gods law rather than being fixated on date setting. How can be people be zealous for Gods law (Malm has borrowed from chef Ramsay) if he never expounds on Gods law? Wouldn't zeal translate into studying how to apply Gods law rather than endless date guessing?
ReplyDeleteUnlike the Kennedy and Bush presidencies where it became a family affair, Donald will probably be the last Trump to take up the office of president of the United States. Could Donald be the "last trump" the "trump of God" before the prophesied return?
ReplyDelete1 Corinthians 15:52 King James Version (KJV)
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
"7. Watch for the New Europe [Assur being Germany, Austria, Hungary] to become the darling of the Islamic countries – except Egypt – (Psalm 83) by aiding them in occupying the Jewish State in the name of peace; thereby bringing a move away from the Petro-Dollar to the currency of the New Europe."
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The moron has no clue that his precious EU is going to collapse along with its shitty currency.
What ridiculous nonsense to blame the Jesuits for Trump. How absurd. What a crackpot thing to say. He disgraces himself.
ReplyDeleteAlso it is pathetic how Theil describes the United States as weakening militarily. The United States has the most powerful military force ever created by humanity. It is so ridiculous that he thinks it will somehow be militarily conquered in just a few years.
And why does Theil criticize Mrs. Trump like that? She was not elected. Why does he choose to criticize her while discussing the transfer of power, not to her, but her husband? But Armstrongism has always had this terrible tendency to try to control women and order them about and shame them into submission. Women deserve respect and to be treated equally.
The big news of the election got me looking to what had been put up in Flurryland.
ReplyDeleteThere was an article, and video, about "what it really means." As if they an idea.
Also, there was a promo to listen to something called the Trumpet Hour, where the local experts were going to discuss the prophetic significance . . . I guess. Like we'd sit for AN HOUR listening to them! Yecch!
Does it mean anything that Dr. Thiel came out with a "book" with HRC on the cover, but not Donald Trump? Was that a failed prediction of sorts?
ReplyDelete2.44 AM the old Soviet empire collapsed rather quickly. Americas vast military spending is not the same as military strength. Many nations like China for example, pay modest military wages. America is still the strongest, but not as superior as many believe.
ReplyDeleteArmstrongism abused women? Whom didn't they abuse?
YAWN!
ReplyDeleteI still have all my R/WCG Sabbath Services notebooks scribed each week by yours truly. When Richard Nixon was elected President in 1968, all the prophetic juices of the Radio/Worldwide Church of God kicked in with sermons such as "Richard Nixon as End Time President". The prophetic WCG preaching taught Nixon's first term would culminate with the second 19 year time cycle of the Philadelphia Church era in January, 1972, and that the German attack on America would commence the Great Tribulation, and end with the return of Jesus Christ in 1975.
YAWN! Been there, done that. Like everything else in Armstrongism, all talk, no fruits. Just a waste of peoples' time and financial resources.
Richard