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Friday, July 7, 2017

I Know More Than The Apostles And The Prophets Of Old! I Am Super Dave!


Super Dave

Dave's own words:
I want to hold up a tool here and explain something that is coming, and you can maybe appreciate from afar little more than the fact that it is a long list, two pages. A list of the sequence of events from now till we’re inside the final phase of the Kingdom of God. Absolutely everything that is going to happen, I have put into a list that I’m told everybody will be thrilled to see. I actually got the idea before I heard from Mr. Kaidannek and some others how much you brethren here and around the world would love such a list. Well, it now exists. It’s currently got 83 separate points on it, and I’ll selectively read a few just so you can kind of appreciate… 
Point number 12: The first two shepherds are cut off inside a month from Christ’s Coming. 
Point 43: The famine of the Word occurs in Judea only, with the Gospel continuing worldwide and also in nations of Israel. 
Point 67: The whole house of Israel, billions, is resurrected. 
And there are many, many other details in here…I would say down to almost exquisite detail…that form a single list, in order of everything that is going to happen from the very book of Daniel being unsealed, which is the first thing on the list, all the way to the Kingdom of God has come in its full and final form, and what that means. 
So, before I give it to the Church, I would like all of you to know that, because of what’s at stake—and, I’m going to release it. There’s never been a document like it. Nobody has ever put all these things together. The list is still growing, and therefore, I want it to be…number one, thorough. I want it to be crystal clear and easy to read, and I want it to be right. And so, before we give it to you, I want to be sure that I have achieved those three goals. 
Probably, there will be a few verses included here and there in various places on the list, and in most cases though, there will not be, because every teaching aid cannot contain everything or it would be just massive. But when you put them all together, then all these aids that we’re producing provide all the answers that people want. If they want detail, they can…they can, of course, read the transcripts. 
There is a point up to which this project would be too thin, not any meat on the bones, and therefore, not as useful as it could be. There is a point past which, maybe it’s sort of a range in there, a place past which it’s too much, too long and too detailed. So I want to strike that balance as well and leave you with something that is enormously helpful. It will cause a firestorm in the splinters, I promise you. Tens of thousands, scores of thousands of people will see it. It will be eventually, I’m sure, shared far and wide in places we can’t imagine. Hence, again, the need for it to be thorough, clear and right. 
Nothing, again, like it obviously could have ever been produced before because first, the prophets, who were prophets, did not understand even what the apostles were taught by Christ personally. The apostles did not understand what John was taught, in the book of Revelation, after they’d all died. John didn’t understand what Mr. Armstrong came to know 2,000 years later, essentially—19 centuries later—because he saw various heads of the beasts in Daniel line up with Revelation, and he saw the Church eras play out, and he could speak with a greater authority. But let’s face it, Mr. Armstrong did not understand anything that’s been in the last 64…Now here is Part 65…sermons in the newness of those parts. He understood much of it, of course, where we’ve referenced things. So there never has been or ever will be a tool like this again, and I’ll just say one last time, hence the need that it is thorough, clear and right.

19 comments:

  1. I doubt that Dave will ever actually publish the list. He will keep tinkering with it and revising it until he loses interest or it becomes an embarrassment to him and then never bring it up again. Also, such a list would provide a very convenient checklist for people to keep score on all his erroneous predictions. So, PLEASE publish it, Dave. You have hundreds or thousands of people who really want to see it.

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  2. It will cause a firestorm in the splinters, I promise you.

    Dave's stuff is crap, of course, but at least it is fresh, unlike the stuff UCG, COGWA and LCG are spooning out to their members. Consider LCG, where this week appears to be Jim Meredith week as he delivers their weekly online sermon and did a live program in studio with two other ministers.

    Four Lessons From The Exodus

    America, 241 Years Later

    If you were Dave Pack and saw your nephew Jim Meredith getting away with such useless blather, you might start thinking a little too highly of your own stuff.

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  3. RCG church members should be required to memorize all of Mr. Packs lists.

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  4. Here is a true statement from Pack's autobiography...

    "On December 7, 1948, just 13 months after their daughter’s birth, the Packs welcomed their firstborn son—David Crowl Pack—into the world at Kenton’s McKitrick Hospital. Because the Japanese attack of Pearl Harbor had forever made December 7 “a day of infamy,” Jane would nickname this child her “Pearl Harbor baby.” "

    This opens up a whole host of nicknames for Davy...

    Infamy Dave

    Pack Attack Dave

    Kamikaze Dave

    Any others? ;-)


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  5. SUPER DAVE should be restricted to a NO FLY ZONE, and under the same restrictions as remote control drones.

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  6. Dave Pack was a nut case over 30 years ago in Hammond, IN. Hasn't changed. So sick to think he is so special.

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  7. There is a point up to which this project would be too thin, not any meat on the bones, and therefore, not as useful as it could be. There is a point past which, maybe it’s sort of a range in there, a place past which it’s too much, too long and too detailed. So I want to strike that balance as well and leave you with something that is enormously helpful."

    Too little bullshit...to much bullshit...just the right amount of bullshit is still...well you know...

    Glenn is right. Please publish it Dave. You gave so many wonderfully inaccurate and 24 sadly mistaken blatherings about "Why Reunification NOW" which was in 2013.

    You sounded strangely familiar back then too. " I repeat: There are many more reasons for a 2013 fulfillment, with a few of a personal nature—and others involving God moving miraculously to reveal crucial things at certain times within an extraordinarily complex prophecy that involves hundreds of verses. I have not included all of these reasons because others would likely not accept them as legitimate. They are, however, on MY much longer list (now 56 total). And these reasons stand on bedrock in the eyes of ALL our Headquarters ministers.

    Again, some of these other reasons—VERY POWERFUL POINTS—can only be brought out when I go into other scriptures in the final two announcements (these are verses outside Haggai, not yet covered). I will carefully denote these reasons when we come to them. There are at least seven or eight."

    Those of you still stuck gyrating in your seats are being conned. It will not end well for any of you.

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  8. Another parody of Gilbert and Sullivan's As someday it may happen (AKA I've got a little list) from The Mikado seems in order here...

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  10. I Know John Cafourek In UCG Is A PrickFriday, July 7, 2017 at 4:34:00 PM PDT

    David Pack was always full of his self, just read his boring-ass autobiography.

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  11. It astounds me that David Pack has any followers at all. His ego is so toxic I just can't imagine anyone being able to stomach his rhetoric.

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  12. Of All The ACOG Groups, I Happen To Like David Pack And I Often Play Golf With A Minister From The RCG. So Before You Shit Heads Get Your Panties In A Wad, Think Twice Before You Judge The Man.

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  13. Ok...think 1..think 2....yep..still delusional

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  14. https://rcg.org/sep/125-events-in-prophetic-sequence

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    1. Be careful of accessing any RCG site. Some ex members innthe past have shared that there are bad kooties just waiting for your computer.

      BB

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  15. Unknown July 8, 2017 5:11 PM cited Dave Pack's location for 125 events in prophetic sequence, which I briefly skimmed. It's loaded with Junk Food.

    For example, here's Part 3:

    3) Christ returns and rules for 1,000 years.

    What is that? It is the same thing most of the xcogs believe...the MMM (Mickey Mouse Millennium) where it is believed that Christ will reign on earth for 1,000 years, after which Jerusalem is taken over, the world is deceived by Satan again, whatever peace there was is greatly disturbed...and where was Jesus, their "another Jesus" at that time? Hiding? Murdered again? This is all part of "another gospel" and is driven by "another spirit."

    So, Dave Pack isn't anymore unique than others with that thinking. So much for Super Dave on that point! And Dave claimed to understand what HWA did not understand.

    Well, Dave did say: "...Nothing, again, like it obviously could have ever been produced before because first, the prophets, who were prophets, did not understand even what the apostles were taught by Christ personally. The apostles did not understand what John was taught, in the book of Revelation, after they’d all died. John didn’t understand what Mr. Armstrong came to know 2,000 years later, essentially—19 centuries later—because he saw various heads of the beasts in Daniel line up with Revelation, and he saw the Church eras play out, and he could speak with a greater authority. But let’s face it, Mr. Armstrong did not understand anything that’s been in the last 64…Now here is Part 65..."

    And that included Part 3 cited above! Does Dave Pack think he is smarter than Jesus Christ too? HWA believed in the MMM also! He preached what he knew. Dave Pack teaches the same thing! But it's Junk Food, but neither HWA nor Dave Pack yet realizes that...life goes on!

    Near the end, here is Parts 123 and 124!

    123) The wicked, as well as “Death” and “Hell” (the grave), are destroyed in the lake of fire.
    124) So are the devil and his demons (Matt. 25:41; Ezek. 28:16-19; Heb. 2:14). Carefully read these verses.

    Well, at least Dave Pack believes the devil and his angels will be destroyed! That is a step above most of the xcogs (virtually all of them) b/c most of them still think, as did HWA, God cannot destroy spirit beings.

    A day is coming when all, regarding Satan and his angels, will believe those verses in Parts 123 and 124...for most that won't occur until after that destruction of those vile, evil, spirit beings takes place, and that's okay.

    But "the wicked" of Part 123? David's personal Plan of Salvation contains a lot of losers, lots of human beings, being destroyed; however, Dave is blind to the following words regarding the human beings of this world:

    "To wit, God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto Himself, NOT IMPUTING their TRESPASSES unto THEM..." 2 Cor 5:19

    But Part 3? HWA died when? Still waiting for that soon return of "another Jesus Christ?" This is 2017! Well, over time theories will be revised concerning Part 3.

    Time will tell...

    John

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