Church of God prophets and apostles have always believed in "progressive revelation." God supposedly reveals deeper and darker secrets to them as they become more enlightened. We forever heard, "here a little, there a little" as church leaders claimed to have more revealed knowledge given to them by their gods. Their gods are constantly giving them new insights and "direct" revelations that are channeled into their minds. Usually, this happens the most when various COG prophets and apostles make utterances that never come to pass, and they have to spin the story that God has either delayed his coming due to the church not being ready, or that God has one more powerful final push yet to come that will amaze the world. 99.99% of the time these men are trying to cover up their lies. The modern-day Church of God has never had a prophet or an apostle who has ever told the truth, and that includes the self-appointed prophets spanning the country from California to Ohio.
God does not always just reveal something to me immediately, but instead, he does so over a period of time, and the Church has come to understand this as “progressive revelation.” Generally, this is done so that He can reveal several other related matters as well in order to eventually reveal a far clearer understanding, future focus, and ability to understand His will. This is part of a process whereby God also trains, molds, and fashions His servants to have greater unity of mind with Himself, as they are being prepared for specific future placement of service within His Family.
There will be a chapter dedicated to the timing of end-time events, and more will be covered in that chapter regarding things that have been addressed here as well. It is likely that by the time that chapter is written God will have revealed more, as this has been my experience over the years in how God works with me. There are patterns that I have become accustomed to, and that is comforting, because God has given me greater confidence and strength, through time, as I have witnessed how His power works to reveal His truth and will. Ron Weinland
I'll spare the repetition but "line upon line..precept upon precept...here a little there a little" doesn't remotely mean what the church of god said it did.
ReplyDeleteIf these church leaders fed their flocks spiritual meat, perhaps their wacky prophesy predictions could be tolerated. But they don't. All they give is prophesy speculation and Pharisaic nonsense. To their members, it's like watching a episode of the futuristic Star Trek Discovery or The Orville (a Star Trek clone).
ReplyDeleteI happen to like Ron Weinland. Some of the things he says make perfect sense.
ReplyDeleteWTH? Are you being serious or are you being sarcastic?
DeleteAfter reading this post, I'm like WTF? Does that guy take medication? If not, perhaps he should be on psychotropic meds.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if that guy actually believes this delusional junk or if he is just really scamming people.
ReplyDeleteSING ALONG TIME! - Sing to the tune "REVOLUTION" by the BEATLES.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgaFBv5LJ9I
You say you have progressive revelation...
Well, you know
We all want to preach the word ...
You tell me that Weinland is the solution..
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But if you want tithe money so Ron can Skate...
All I can tell you is brother you'll have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
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I find Ron Weinland's "teachings" a bit on the nauseating side. I don't know who is the worst, Ron, David Pack, or Gerald Flurry.....
ReplyDeleteThe JW's have long had a go-to verse for progressive revelation-
ReplyDeleteBut the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. Prov 4:18
The light gets brighter... Never mind the Plain Truth, just check in with Ron regularly to get the latest incarnation of the Present Truth(TM).
Dennis wrote "line upon line..." doesn't remotely mean what the church of god said it did.
ReplyDeleteAnd neither does prove all things... nor famine of the word nor ...
Somehow, to me, the concept of "progressive revelation" has always related to Armstrongism only to the extent that one realizes that Armstrongism is wrong, and one has been exploited. That right there is the revelation, and it's a doozie!
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A conservative is someone who is reluctant to mess with what worked reasonably well in the past even if he didn't fully understand why it worked (who does?).
ReplyDeleteA progressive is someone who keeps changing what he didn't understand in the first place because he thinks he always knows better no matter how many times he has messed up and changed his mind.
When you cross a bible fundamentalist with failed prophecy you get progressive prophecy.
It's literally impossible to prove all things. There just isn't time to uncover all the lies we are told. We can only do our level best and live an honest life. No God can expect more than that.
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ReplyDelete“God does not always just reveal something to me immediately, but instead, he does so over a period of time, and the Church has come to understand this as 'progressive revelation.'”--Ronald Weinland
God does not reveal to Ronald Weinland immediately that his prophetic guesses are all wrong from the very beginning, but instead lets him figure it out slowly long after the dates he set have come and gone without anything that he predicted ever happening.
When a lying false prophet spends his entire lifetime stringing people along with his endless wrong prophetic guesses that never work out, he calls it “progressive revelation.”
ReplyDeleteHelen Wheels on October 31, 2017 at 2:23 PM said...“I happen to like Ron Weinland. Some of the things he says make perfect sense.”
Yikes! Is that why they call you Hell on Wheels?