Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!
With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
It's what people do when they are processing mistakes that are difficult to admit. I sat down with my boys and apologized to them for lots of things including dragging them all over the country. However, my boys and I reminded ourselves that without all that had gone before, they'd not now live where they lived, with the loves of their lives and beautiful children, dogs and friends. It's all connected. It is why one need not judge if any particular event in live is good or bad. (not easy) because so often what seems so good can lead to what turns out to be so bad but what then seems so bad leads to something that is really good.
I also remind them they would not even be here , nor would I had my grandparents not unbooked from Titanic in April of 1912 to stay in Holland until June for their friends weddings before coming to American never to return or I had boarded that flight out of LAX on which I had a ticket but missed the flight which was downed by a fighter jet collision crashing in a canyon near Duarte.
I assume we are all here because 35,000 years ago or 100,000 years ago, someone ducked or did not duck and here we are... :)
Yea. My parents defend lighting candles and kneeling down in front of a statue of a dead women named Mary, counting their prayers on beads, while wearing a scapular around their neck. They also swore that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were real and were important figures pointing to Jesus. They also taught me about a God who going fry most humans for eternity, but if you were lucky you'd just hang on a cross for a few hundred years in purgatory, unless your relatives paid a priest to say a special Mass to get you out early. And Limbo was filled with cute little babies who died at birth. They would defend putting a plastic Saint Christopher on the dashboard of our car to protect us driving on a two lane highway. They also believed burying St. Joseph in out yard would help sell our house. They also supported a man who thought he was a "holy father" who would not let his men get married but looked the other way when little boys were abused.
Yea, my parents will still defend a weird religion.
Mary is only dead if the Armstrongs taught you to play with commas. Nobody ever had nightmares because of being lied to about Santa and the Easter Bunny. Those of us who grew up in WCG had plenty of nightmares as a result of being lied to about the Germans. There is nothing wrong with loving and praying either privately or ritually for your dead relatives. Some look to St. Christopher, some expect protection because they tithe and keep the old covenant sabbath. Kids were routinely beaten by their WCG parents, warped for life.
I see nothing particularly weird about your parents’ religion. While growing up, my Catholic friends seemed well-adjusted, committed to family, devout, and interested in making the world in which we live a better place. That provided quite a contrast to our own wretched church.
I also remind them they would not even be here , nor would I had my grandparents not unbooked from Titanic in April of 1912 to stay in Holland until June for their friends weddings before coming to American never to return or I had boarded that flight out of LAX on which I had a ticket but missed the flight which was downed by a fighter jet collision crashing in a canyon near Duarte.
Hi all. This is HWA reminding you live the give way. So it's a taboo to ask why I lived in a mansion, used silver and gold dinnerware, flew around the world in my private jet, stayed in five star hotels, and not forgetting, was treated like a god in my own church.
If you must know, as the Chosen Apostle, I had the right to a monstrous double standard. So there! Everyone must live by the give way while I lived by the get way. Capiche?
Seriously though. Even when questioned on a long-ago decision that ended up giving mixed or even negative results, people's first impulse tends to be defensive. Its often magnified when its a family member. It doesn't have to be that way, but it often is.
And btw, don't lie to your kids about your bloodline, because DNA will rat you out. :)
TB God would not have known that the Titanic was going to sink on its maiden voyage. According to a documentary, they weren't using binoculars on the bridge because they could not find the cabinet keys on that fateful night. Several mistakes were made which resulted in the disaster.
God cannot predict the future since He gives people free moral agency. Otherwise, one is claiming that God is a puppet master, which is the church position via its 'administering God's government.'
What do you mean the past.
ReplyDeleteIts only 3 more years I'm told.
Nck
It doesn’t matter anyway. You only pass into the world through your parents. You’re not a part of them long term or forever unless you choose to be.
ReplyDeleteBB
It's what people do when they are processing mistakes that are difficult to admit. I sat down with my boys and apologized to them for lots of things including dragging them all over the country. However, my boys and I reminded ourselves that without all that had gone before, they'd not now live where they lived, with the loves of their lives and beautiful children, dogs and friends. It's all connected. It is why one need not judge if any particular event in live is good or bad. (not easy) because so often what seems so good can lead to what turns out to be so bad but what then seems so bad leads to something that is really good.
ReplyDeleteI also remind them they would not even be here , nor would I had my grandparents not unbooked from Titanic in April of 1912 to stay in Holland until June for their friends weddings before coming to American never to return or I had boarded that flight out of LAX on which I had a ticket but missed the flight which was downed by a fighter jet collision crashing in a canyon near Duarte.
I assume we are all here because 35,000 years ago or 100,000 years ago, someone ducked or did not duck and here we are... :)
Yea. My parents defend lighting candles and kneeling down in front of a statue of a dead women named Mary, counting their prayers on beads, while wearing a scapular around their neck. They also swore that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were real and were important figures pointing to Jesus. They also taught me about a God who going fry most humans for eternity, but if you were lucky you'd just hang on a cross for a few hundred years in purgatory, unless your relatives paid a priest to say a special Mass to get you out early. And Limbo was filled with cute little babies who died at birth. They would defend putting a plastic Saint Christopher on the dashboard of our car to protect us driving on a two lane highway. They also believed burying St. Joseph in out yard would help sell our house. They also supported a man who thought he was a "holy father" who would not let his men get married but looked the other way when little boys were abused.
ReplyDeleteYea, my parents will still defend a weird religion.
Mary is only dead if the Armstrongs taught you to play with commas. Nobody ever had nightmares because of being lied to about Santa and the Easter Bunny. Those of us who grew up in WCG had plenty of nightmares as a result of being lied to about the Germans. There is nothing wrong with loving and praying either privately or ritually for your dead relatives. Some look to St. Christopher, some expect protection because they tithe and keep the old covenant sabbath. Kids were routinely beaten by their WCG parents, warped for life.
ReplyDeleteI see nothing particularly weird about your parents’ religion. While growing up, my Catholic friends seemed well-adjusted, committed to family, devout, and interested in making the world in which we live a better place. That provided quite a contrast to our own wretched church.
BB
"It doesn’t matter anyway. You only pass into the world through your parents. You’re not a part of them long term or forever unless you choose to be."
ReplyDeleteCan we highlight, boldface and enlarge the font on that comment?
DD said:
ReplyDeleteI also remind them they would not even be here , nor would I had my grandparents not unbooked from Titanic in April of 1912 to stay in Holland until June for their friends weddings before coming to American never to return or I had boarded that flight out of LAX on which I had a ticket but missed the flight which was downed by a fighter jet collision crashing in a canyon near Duarte.
Sounds like Divine intervention...!!!
TK
Hi all. This is HWA reminding you live the give way.
ReplyDeleteSo it's a taboo to ask why I lived in a mansion, used silver and gold dinnerware, flew around the world in my private jet, stayed in five star hotels, and not forgetting, was treated like a god in my own church.
If you must know, as the Chosen Apostle, I had the right to a monstrous double standard. So there! Everyone must live by the give way while I lived by the get way.
Capiche?
Seriously though. Even when questioned on a long-ago decision that ended up giving mixed or even negative results, people's first impulse tends to be defensive. Its often magnified when its a family member.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't have to be that way, but it often is.
And btw, don't lie to your kids about your bloodline, because DNA will rat you out. :)
TB
ReplyDeleteGod would not have known that the Titanic was going to sink on its maiden voyage. According to a documentary, they weren't using binoculars on the bridge because they could not find the cabinet keys on that fateful night. Several mistakes were made which resulted in the disaster.
God cannot predict the future since He gives people free moral agency. Otherwise, one is claiming that God is a puppet master, which is the church position via its 'administering God's government.'
must be nice being a frog sitting in a slow boiling pot of water...
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