Now we know why Dave is so screwed up. Jim Reyer has to be one of the more despised ministers the church had. His name consistently pops up when members talk about abusive COG ministers. After Reyer wrecked havoc in Ohio he was eventually brought to Pasadena where he continued his hardcore antics. One memorable comment he made to an Imperial student who had a baby out of wedlock, was that the baby was going to be thrown into the lake of fire due to her sin.
“Jim Reyer understood human nature like few I have known. He also had extraordinary discernment of people’s attitudes. He used to talk about ‘hitting into human nature’ through sermons and Church Bible studies. This man understood that certain kinds of more direct messages about vanity, jealousy, resentment, envy, pride, and so forth, would bring feelings to the surface in the congregation that might otherwise stay hidden. He felt it was his duty to speak fairly bluntly on a regular basis.“This is perhaps where Mr. Reyer showed his greatest courage as a minister. He absolutely never feared in sermons to say what the people needed to hear in lieu of what they may have wanted to hear. In this regard, he had people who would die for him—and others who wanted him to die.“Mr. Armstrong very much understood you have to speak to human nature—and when you do, plenty of it can surface in the congregation. It did periodically come out in Cincinnati, that’s for sure. The pastor on the other side of town could not have been more opposite in style—nothing but encouraging messages, ever—hence some of the tension I mentioned. I tried to learn what I could about how to avoid meddling in strife that belonged to others.“Mr. Reyer was very similar to my father. I am convinced that God sent me to work under him so that I would receive what would almost be a ‘second witness’ to my father’s example. Just 26 when I arrived, with Mr. Reyer in his early 40s, he confirmed in my training and understanding how leadership is always willing to take a stand in difficult moments, no matter the personal price one might have to pay.”
Complete bullshit. Dave is trying to write and expand his credentials which in reality is zilch.
ReplyDeleteDave said:" Just 26 when I arrived, with Mr. Reyer in his early 40s, he confirmed in my training and understanding how leadership is always willing to take a stand in difficult moments, no matter the personal price one might have to pay.”
ReplyDeleteIt is too bad Dave never worked with anyone who could teach him common sense, humility or how not to be source and cause of the difficult moments for which one has to pay an unnecessary personal price.
and too...too bad Gospel Jesus did not make him the man he is today :)
ReplyDeleteWhat the older ministers teach the younger ministers is how to behave like the Gestapo and enforce the police state inside the church. This isn't slander, I witnessed this with the last minister I had.
ReplyDeleteDavie always likes to talk about himself. Let’s hope he never gets a prostate exam! We’ll never hear the end of it!
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Reyer was an abusive prick who treated people like dirt.
ReplyDeleteJim Reyer tore through the Denver WCG like a black tornado for about 5 years in the 80's. I, along with many others, departed the church during this time because of his Gestapo tactics. He also made me the man I am today ... I now stand up for myself and no longer take bullshit from anyone, like many of us did from him because he was a "minister of God."
ReplyDeleteWe had a great experience at Denver. My family thought a lot of Mr. Reyer. He was a man's man. I guess some people can't handle strong men and women. He was a man, though, not God. I never saw him hold anyone down to make them do what he said. We are supposed to do what we know is right. Ministers can't make us do anything.
DeleteWe are who made us the way we are. Don't blame your failures on someone else.