This afternoon, during a nice nap, I had one of those “Church of God” Dreams that most people who grew up or were in the Worldwide Church of God often seem to have.
In this dream, I was led in the back of a large arena – obviously, where there was a convention going on. For some reason, I had the opportunity to have a conference with the Big Person in Charge, who happened to be Joseph Tkach. He was sitting behind a glass window, and I was in a line to talk to him. There were several behind me also waiting to talk to him.
When it was my turn, I asked him if I could return to the Orr, Minnesota SEP site. He began to answer with a rambling of some sort, I dared interrupt him, and his voice raised about two octaves with a “I am talking” in no uncertain terms intent, and I immediately shut up to let him speak. He then proceeded to tell me that the best times of a person's life are when they are 16 or 17. I told him that I was 16 or 17 when I went to SEP. He said something like “There you go”, and gave me a special green/white envelope of “Request to see the SEP Campus” that I had to fill out. I thanked him, and started walking down the hall to exit. As I was walking down the hall, I could hear the distinctive “Tkach Voice – Raised In Annoyance” lam-blasting someone else about something. When I left, someone else tried to get in to talk to Tkach, but the Secretary denied access and closed the camera-thing above the hall access-door.
A few years ago, I had another “COG” dream. In this dream, Herbert W. Armstrong himself – in spirit form – came down to Earth – alone. I was in the basement of what seemed to be a large, giant library. I heard Herbert call my name. I opened the box, and the “Spirit” of Herbert called out to me. Herbert apologized for everything that he did. I asked him why he did what he did, and he very remorsefully said: “I don't know.” He said he had to go, and I heard what sounded like a bell. I closed the small box that he was trapped in, and then, that was it. The voice was Herbert's, but a very, very mellow, humble, and contrite Herbert. I woke up, and thought “what a dream”.
I've had other “COG Dreams” because the COG was such a large, massive, overwhelming presence in my life over the years. I've had dreams where I'm back leading songs – but somehow screwing it up, or not having the proper hymns coordinated with the piano player, or forgetting I had the song service until the last moment. I've had dreams where I was giving the Sermonette, but was wearing an awful, pathetic suit. I've had dreams where I felt that immense, consuming, powerful pride that I was in a higher position within the local church – and woke up completely disgusted and shameful about those untamed attitudes.
There's a big difference between the dreams that any one of us hundreds of thousands of people who lived in the COG's have – and the dreams that our current splinter leaders have. It's directly proportional to who we think we are in the grand scope of the universe, the church, and life.
When a typical person with a COG history – like me – has a COG dream, they do exactly what I did. They wake up, say “Wow, what a dream”, think about it, then go about their day. When a Current Splinter Leader has a dream (I'm thinking of one person in particular who needs straighter bookcases and nicer curtains), they think about it in the form that it is of world-impacting significance and importance. They think of themselves in such high regard and importance to the world, that every parcel and fractal of the dream takes on a divine significance – to them, to the other characters in the dream, and eventually, to the world. Their feelings of grandiose importance are so tremendous that they nearly take on their own prophetic ministry and theology based on what went on in the dream.
If I was to use the methodology that he uses with dreams, I could start a whole new belief system. I could say that the Spirit of Herbert Armstrong is trapped in a prison, and that he has become remorseful and contrite, and that I was granted a lone audience with Herbert to convey his apology and remorse for his actions. I could say that Herbert was timed and a bell signalled that “he had to go”. But I recognize it was a dream. I could also say that somehow I was in a parallel universe with Joseph Tkach, where he was now reduced to a receptionist – a rather forceful, assertive, and mean receptionist at that. I could think on that and somehow come to a bunch of conclusions about what that meant for Tkach's ministry, and all sorts of different conclusions – based on a dream. And to me – that would be naive, stupid, and dangerous.
Of course, Bob, and any COG member who ever listened to these stories would never buy their authenticity in a million years, even if they were! Why? Because these dreams contradict the beliefs they have already formed in their head. There's no immortal soul, there's no heaven, there's no conscious spirit, they would forcefully say – so obviously, it's just a complete figment of imagination and needs to be summarily dismissed. However, if you have a weird dream where one bar graph line goes down, and one bar graph line goes up, then, because it seems to affirm an already held strong belief, it's lauded up to some sort of divine affirmation.
This is a methodology that the COG's have down to a science, and a methodology that Kairan Underwood said that the PCG used in writing many of its own articles for its own flagship magazine. Look for anything you can find to confirm your beliefs, then throw out everything you can find that dismisses them. Take the smallest rock and elevate it to universal proportions. Or, take the biggest evidence and dismiss it completely because it contradicts already concreted viewpoints.
Once Herbert Armstrong died, once the Church collapsed, and that dictatorial hand of Herbert Armstrong was no longer holding down the hubris, pride, and self-beliefs of field ministers and evangelists under him – the individual dogmas and doctrines held by all the field ministers exploded without temperance. Now, 23 years later from the collapse of the church, we have one of them preaching a horrifying “All things common” doctrine, another one idolizing a simple garden rock, another one claiming to be a minister but never was ordained to the position, another one trying so hard to hold down the fort of his own rapidly crumbling splinter, another one who went to prison for trying too hard to replicate Herbert Armstrong's luxurious lifestyle – and then you have the weird and wacky ones who've only been able to grab a few hundred viewers on YouTube – literally the bottom of the barrel in YouTube Statistics and video viewers.
The methodology of the splinter leaders – Look for anything you can find to confirm your beliefs, throw out everything else that dismisses them, is how the Armstrong Churches of God have operated for decades.
In a recent expose' by a former writer of the PCG's Magazine "The Trumpet", and a true PCG Insider himself published right here on Banned By HWA, Kieran Underwood confirmed himself that this methodology has been used to write several publications by that splinter. But it's not only that splinter. One can easily see the exact personalities and attitudes that each of the COG leaders have. You can tell who is greedy, who is angry, who is physically oriented. You can tell who is jealous, who is wanting, who is child-like, who is wishing they were important, and who wants to bring back the glory days. By using this formula, you can tell very easily what an individual person's COG-Beliefs are – but more than that, you can tell who they are as a person. It is said that "By your fruits shall you know them." Equally true is that by their methods, you can see right through them, I would say.
And if you go by facts alone, the Splinter Leaders themselves have proven themselves to be completely enraptured in jealousy-driven, greed-oriented, physically-minded, money-loving, Herbert-worshiping religion that is not, never has been, and never will ever pass as any form of Christianity. All this is is a sham and a scam, exposing exactly who and what these splinters are – a reflection of those that lead them. They will do anything to confirm their own beliefs of their own minds, and do everything they can to destroy everything that exposes them for the falsehoods that they are. This is the methodology of the Splinters to it's core, and it is not the methodology ever practiced by Christianity, the Early Church, or any person who claims to be a real servant minister of those who put their spiritual well-being in their hands.
The methodology of the Armstrong Churches of God is no way to find truth. The only thing this methodology does is enhance confirmation bias, which is defined as "the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories." For more information on confirmation bias, visit the following links:
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SHT, Thank you for this excellent posting and insight. Outstanding observations and absolutely spot on as they say.
ReplyDeleteAll of this is true of the COG ministry because they were never properly trained in theology, ethics and all that goes with being on who understand that "he who is greatest among you, let him be your servant." Of course, they all lack the basics of Christology to begin with and have their noses stuck in the Old Testament and a ridiculous view of prophecy bestowed by HWA himself. (My view is that prophecy is just as made up as the mind can contort itself around the times in which it lives, but that Preterism rules.) While no prophecy is supposed to not be of any private interpretation, I never could see how all prophecy is indeed of private interpretation no matter what you call it.
Concerning COG dreams. Often! Mine usually revolve around having to speak at the FOT , being introduced while I am way up in the nose bleed section, I can't find my bible or my notes and I can't find anyway to get to the stage. My best one was seeing three colored balls descending upon me and one burst into a full blown Angel. I asked it "How do you fly?" It put a vest on me and off I went flying up into the rafters of a beautiful log convention center dining area. Everyone clapped when I flew in. I descended to the floor and tried to sit down at a table at any empty seat. Each time a person said "This is taken" So I flew away. No brainer there! lol
Also, you haven't lived until Joe Tkach screams "Squelch it" over the phone when calling to confirm that HWA was getting divorced....but not in a dream!
I think the very first comment (2:19 AM) is a transcript of a Gerald Waterhouse sermon..........
ReplyDelete"Also, you haven't lived until Joe Tkach screams "Squelch it" over the phone when calling to confirm that HWA was getting divorced....but not in a dream! "
ReplyDeleteWow. I bet you thought to yourself "oh, man, better tread carefully for a while" while heading to get a glass of scotch LOL. I heard enough of him screaming about "gar-baaage" and "liberized" people or whatever. Both Tkach and Armstrong had distinctive voices in their own rights. Once you've heard em, you can't lose 'em. Ever.
-SHT
Maybe some gals do, but I NEVER dream about "Colored Balls" !
ReplyDeleteGood article SHT! I appreciate the manner in which you demonstrate the negative implications that follow when splinter leaders and members employ confirmation bias to convince themselves they are, and always have been RIGHT.
ReplyDeleteYou further seem to be saying that these deluded people should take off their blinders and find true Christianity. My question is, "Which brand of Christianity would that be?" Is that a Grace-filled church, void of politics and conflict? Do you belong to that group?
What would happen if every Christian, Jew and Muslim would or could stop and question their beliefs without confirmation bias?
I applaud your article, but confirmation bias is a big subject, and all of us are victims, not just the horribly deluded leaders of the CoG splinters. Can you agree?
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ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, I can agree that all of us are victims to this. It's human nature. It's not just confined to the COG's, Educators, teachers, authorities... all do it, especially when one is specifically challenged with a hard-hitting change. This sort of thing has affected mainstream churches, megachurches - it really doesn't matter. In OUR universe, however, the COG's are making this phenomenon uncomfortably obvious.
In regard to your saying "Which brand of Christianity would that be? Is that a Grace-filled church, void of politics and conflict?", I am in no position to answer that. And neither are the COG splinter leaders who try to make themselves knowledgeable to answer that. Christianity is a relationship between a person and Jesus. Any answer on my part would get in the middle of that. So I respectfully decline to answer.
We all know what happens when people, who are susceptible to confirmation bias, start speaking out of their mouths, thinking they know what they're talking about.
-SHT
Appreciation to my father who stated to me concerning this
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In one of HWA's writings, he did subtly mention his use of eisegesis by quoting a few lines from Bing Crosby.
ReplyDelete@ Hoss, for a better insight into HWA's eisegetical technique, please consider his interpretive strategy as explained by Frank Sinatra.
ReplyDeleteI want to express my appreciation to all those who have consistently put up good material on this blog recently. I may not agree with all of it or with a lot of those who comment, but admire the freedom of expression on here.
ReplyDeleteSHT, 11:31 AM, thank you for your response to my questions regarding confirmation bias and its obvious effects on our worldview. The reason I signed off as AC grad is because I wanted you and the readers know that because of curiosity, much reading, and a good dose of open-mindedness, I have shed much of the confirmation biased thinking I was overwhelmed with during my AC/WWCG years earlier in my life. It is possible, but it takes a conscious and diligent effort to become clear-headed and aware. For me it began with a willingness to question everything I had been taught and believed, even from childhood. As I said previously, it is a huge task to remove this stumbling block to learning.
ReplyDeleteLet's say that you had been born in Pakistan, do you think that you would be a Christian and believe Jesus died for your sins. Very doubtful. You are a Christian most likely because you were born in a Christian country to Christian parents who had a major confirmation bias.
I'm not saying it is wrong, just a fact of life. Again, I ask the serious and significant question: "What would happen if every Christian, Jew and Muslim could question his/her belief system without confirmation bias?" Of course, it isn't possible and will never happen, but what if??
You have discovered that the splinter groups are loaded with error largely because of much confirmation bias, but what about your Christian beliefs---all of them, are they the real deal? Or are they the result of confirmation bias? This is a serious question most readers here are afraid to ask themselves.
While I was at AC, I was constantly fed via confirmation bias. Seeking to be open to new ideas and possibilities and being willing to be wrong helped me shed some of my tendencies toward confirmation bias. I have a long way to go, but understanding the nature of the Abrahamic religions was a good starting point for me.
This is an important topic that can help improve logic and clear-thinking.
Anon 420 - How true!
ReplyDeleteAlong with some of Connie's parodies, we've got the makings of Armstrongism: The Musical.
Looks like we have moved away from the topic of confirmation bias. It is an extremely broad topic, and only a very few can be honest enough with themselves to ask to ask and answer the difficult questions.
ReplyDeleteIf this site is comprised largely of people still questioning which ACOG splinter is least harmful, it is no wonder there is little interest in confronting the larger questions. Deprogramming is a long and winding road.
To those still wondering what to do, my advice is get out and avoid contact with these groups, except for cherished family members. The ideas taught by these groups are often poison to your well-being. You have the power to choose.