Quite a few COG members got into the Sacred Names business when the Worldwide Church of God imploded. On previous COG boards the rhetoric got quit hot at times with sacred name believers get all indignant with those that refused to follow along.
The best line above is the "PS."
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ReplyDeleteI seem to remember Timothy had something to say about this.
ReplyDeleteOf these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 2 Tim 2:14.
Awe, if only people would learn.
"Remind them of these things, solemnly warning them in the presence of Hashem not to be engaged in disputes over devarim, which is not beneficial, but only ruins the hearers." Timotiyos II 2:14 Orthodox Jewish Bible
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ReplyDeleteAll the doctrines taught by the WCG when HWA was alive had come through HWA. So, near the end of his life, HWA began to teach that he was the Elijah who was prophesied to come and restore all things.
HWA never taught any of the sacred names nonsense that various kooks and rebels later came up with after HWA died.
The fact is that God had the Old Testament of the Bible preserved in the Hebrew language, and had the New Testament of the Bible preserved in the Greek language.
God knows all sorts of languages. After the great flood in Noah's time, God made up a bunch of languages for the people at the Tower of Babel to divide them so they could not understand each other, and to prevent them from working together as one people, and scattered them over the face of the earth.
Are those who listen to the sacred names kooks actually going to learn to read, write, and speak the Hebrew language fluently, or are they going to learn just a few words and go around acting like lazy, stupid, ignorant retards?
The Sacred Name movement found a lot of its genesis with fellow COG 7th Day minister of HWA, C.O. Dodd. He left the COG7th Day in 1937 to promote Sacred Names. Dodd was the coauthor with A.N. Dugger of the poorly researched book " A History of Gods Church".
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ReplyDeleteSome people like to criticize HWA and his teachings.
Then what do they get into?
They get mixed up with stuff like sacred names!
Several of the sacred names groups seem almost like Jewish Evangelicals. They have a lot of singing, dancing, and readings at their assemblies. Most of the COG organizations are kooky....but, sacred names groups are even kookier.
ReplyDeleteThere is no teaching from Jesus Christ that says we have to pronounce His or The Father's name a certain way. Isn't God going to give us a pure language in the future? How will His name be pronounced then?
Connie mentioned the CG7 Sacred Names offshoot. I remember that from a GTA sermon in which he mentioned a number of teachings that were studied but didn't become R/WCG doctrines/dogma.
ReplyDelete"P.S. The New Testament was inspired and written in the Greek language not in Hebrew!"
I believe it was Pappias, as quoted by Eusebius, who wrote that Matthew was originally written in Hebrew. In his first sermon on Matthew, Bob Thiel tried to refute the claim by Andrew Gabriel Roth (Ruach Qadim, 2005) that the NT was originally written in Aramaic. Bob claimed the book was "full of errors"; I read it and Roth puts up a good argument, and some of the "errors" were that he obviously didn't support Anglo-Israelism...
COG talk for "Full of Errors" is code for "They don't see it my way."
ReplyDelete12:01, You are thinking of Zephaniah 3:9. This could also be translated "pure lips" as in some versions (e.g., the International Standard Version). The New International Version translates the first part of this verse as "Then I will purify the lips of the peoples". This text probably does not have the idea of a single, pure language in mind.
ReplyDeleteThe biggest name in the "sacred names" movement may have been the late Elder Jacob O. Meyer of the Assemblies of Yahweh. He was (and I think still is) on 50KW radio stations on weekends.
ReplyDeleteBut when he claimed to have kept the annual holy days for seven years by himself around 1950, he lost me. That claim convinced me he was a Herbert Armstrong rip-off.