One of the more extremist Armstrong Churches of God, the Philadelphia Church of God, acknowledges that this time of the year can be very discouraging to church members.
Spring Holy Days: Appreciating God’s Goodness
This can be a discouraging time of year—unless we have the right focus.
The church has had a horrible reputation of grinding people down into worthless worms and maggots this time of year as they are berated as worthless sinners that killed Jesus. This sends members into a week-long frenzy of beating themselves up over their sins, especially the sins that the PCG leaders and ministers claim they have committed.
Then they show up at Passover services, in great solemnity, as ministers break the matzos with microphones amplifying the cracking and breaking of the bread. Members are supposed to sit there and ponder those sounds as if they were at the foot of the cross striking Jesus or thrusting the sword into his side.
Throughout church history, the Eucharist, communion, the Last Supper or the Lord's Supper has been the various names given to this event. Many look at it as the Love Feast or a foretaste of the heavenly banquet prepared before the origins of the world that will be celebrated in the Kingdom of God.
This heavenly banquet concept was something that Tkach Sr. recognized and told members in Pasadena that they needed to stop coming to the service with a sense of dejection and instead come to it with joy. They were to look at it with the joy of participating in the great heavenly banquet to come.
ACOG members get depressed this time of year because their church leaders browbeat them continually down as they degenerate them as much as possible Then, they are supposed to leave the Passover service exhilarated that all of the past sins of the last year have been wiped away. For many, this is an exhilarating feeling, but it never lasts long. All they have to do is wait until the first day of Unleavened Bread to be knocked down again during the sermon for failing to put sin out of their lives. Then, they happen to find a cookie or bread crumbs in some strange place and the helplessness begins all over.
Because the ACOG places all of its trust in physical things and in the law, it fails to recognize the one they claim to celebrate at Passover. Instead, they spend the night torturing and killing him in some gymnasium or Masonic Lodge.
Flurry says this in his article:
Yes, when Christ came to this Earth, His life was at stake. He could, indeed, sin. Christ’s life was the greatest risk in the history of man. But He took it because He wanted people like Abraham in His Family—people who would go out and sacrifice their own son if necessary, knowing that God would resurrect him to fulfill a promise (Hebrews 11:17-19). Abraham had that kind of faith and trust in God, and God returned that love many times over. All people who can repent like you, Abraham—I will give my life for them. I know that if I don’t make it, nobody else will. But I’m going to do this so we can build the Family of God. That’s the cost it took for us to receive God’s Holy Spirit.Because Flurry refuses to know the Christ he claims to follow, he says that his Jesus could have indeed sinned. That is typical Armstrongite bad theology. Many Christians feel otherwise about that. Consider this:
"We must strongly affirm the reality of Christ’s temptations, but we must not make his temptations the same as ours in every respect. Why? Because, as much as Jesus is like us, he is also utterly unique, and his temptations reflect this fact. For example, Jesus was tempted to turn rocks into bread, a temptation that normal humans do not face. He was tempted to use his divine prerogatives instead of walking the path of obedience, and he chose to live in dependence upon the Father in order to become our merciful and faithful High Priest (Heb. 2:17–18). In addition, he faced temptation in Gethsemane, but not by anything within himself, since he was perfectly holy and righteous. Unlike us in our fallen condition, in Christ there was no predisposition to sin and no love of it. The temptation he faced was unique to him as the Son, and it was unique to him as our sin-bearer. He rightly and legitimately recoiled at the prospect of losing his communion with his Father for a time; as a man, he rightly wanted to avoid death in this way for many reasons. We must never deny that Christ’s temptations were real, indeed more real than we could ever imagine or experience, but we must also affirm that they were utterly unique to him. (3) God cannot be tempted with evil, and God cannot sin (see, e.g., James 1:13).
"But there is more to the identity of Jesus than this, especially when we think of the who of the incarnation. Jesus is not merely another Adam or even a greater, Spirit-empowered one. He is the last Adam, the head of the new creation, the divine Son incarnate, and as the Son, it is impossible for him to sin and to yield to temptation, because God cannot sin. Behind this assertion is the fact that sin is an act of the person, not of the nature, and that in the case of Christ, he is the eternal Son. As Macleod rightly reminds us, “If he sinned, God sinned. At this level, the impeccability of Christ is absolute. It rests not upon his unique endowment with the Spirit nor upon the indefectibility of God’s redemptive purpose, but upon the fact that he is who he is.” " Could Christ have sinned?Flurry continues with this absurd statement that once again lays a heavy burden on members backs.
If Christ had failed, God the Father would have been sitting in solitary confinement for the rest of eternity! That’s the kind of sacrifice these Gods made for us. We can forget that in our callous, carnal thinking. But God the Father and Christ did it—and they did it for you. They want you to be aware of that. Not out of their vanity, but so that you will recognize that repentance must be toward God! We must understand repentance if we are to enter the God Family."All PCG members must always hold in the back of their mind that their sins that they continue to commit are still to killing their "jesus" to this day. They must always hold in the back of their minds that the "jesus" they claim to follow just might have screwed up and sinned, prohibiting them from ever become gods like their version of "God the Father" is.
So yes, I do agree with Gerald Flurry. This IS a depressing and discouraging time of year for so many Armstrong Church of God members.
The more you listen to their preaching, the more clear it becomes that the god of the Armstrongites is a weak and pathetic being, and is not at all like the God who is revealed in either the Old Testament or the New Testament.
ReplyDeleteIf God is truly God, then He gets to make the rules. Why couldn't He make another Adam and Eve, and keep on doing so until he got a perfect/sinless couple who could become God as God is God?
ReplyDeleteIs it because Adam and Ever were imperfect and thus were destined to fail? If you believe that God could create a destined-to-fail Adam and Eve, surely that same God could incarnate as a destined-to-succeed Jesus Christ! Alternatively, if a different Adam/Eve pair could have succeeded, there's no need for a Jesus Christ, as God could keep creating Adam/Eve pairs until one succeeded.
Gerald Flurry's presentation thus makes no sense at all.
This is the problem with Christianity. It boils down to the message: "Love Daddy unconditionally, free of coercion... or he will BURN YOU!"
ReplyDeleteI never personally down deep liked PO or UB. It was low energy or something. I never liked doing PO service and footwashing.Too artificially solemn. I reintroduced fellowship and talking in the late 80's and it felt better. Never liked reading John 13 thru 17 on and on.Besides, no one could possible know that kind of detailed talk. The author wrote what he imagined Jesus would say for doctrinal reasons. The other 3 Gospels knew nothing of it nor quoted any of it
ReplyDeleteI found the 'could Christ have sinned' article contradictory. This reminds me of Herbs confusing and contradictory article on patriotism. Sometimes religious writers just muddy the waters if they feel that they can't deceive their readers.
ReplyDeleteFrom a marketing standpoint, Armstrongism appears to have been deliberately created to be depressing, so that members would apply its tenets all the more vigorously in hopes of alleviating their persistent depression. Either that, or it was an awfully bungled "revelation", filtered through horribly damaged or flawed messengers. Either option would produce dubious results.
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Byker, perhaps you are forgetting that while HWA was alive, he periodically refreshed things (and reasserted his supreme rule) by having revelations that changed substantial elements of Church practice, reinforcing his role as the supreme arbiter of all things WCG. For instance, and you can Google this (it's in a book somewhere online, as well as on a website), just as DULB was briefly and experimentally a week-long observance that didn't catch on, there was one financially tight year in the 1960s when GTA proposed, and at least serious consideration was given to, calling off group observance of the Feast of Tabernacles in order to have members send to HW their Feast tithe. This was never implemented in the 1960s, but some of the smaller splinters (e.g. Weinland) have looked to this almost-precedent since.
ReplyDeleteGRF gives his people the excitement of HWA's WCG. Pack tries to do the same, but seems mostly to confuse and depress RCG members. Most other ACOG groups are stuck with HWA's precedents, but aren't granted his freedom to innovate.
A lot of fear/depression is likely sourced to this section of scripture, that speaks of people even dying for taking the Communion "unworthily. WCG and its successors thus have had a very sober and somber attitude towards the event for this reason...
ReplyDeleteICor11:27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28Each one must examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
And too....we know for sure that the very last thing Jesus said to the disciples at the Lord's Supper was...."Ok, now lets all get over here on the same side of the table for a picture!"
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And the last thing Moses said to Korah was "Well now Korah...with ideas and behaviors like that really big things are opening up for you." :)
ReplyDeleteTherefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Each one must examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
ReplyDeleteOH, NO!!! HE ATE THE DEATH COOKIE!!!
ICor11:27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28Each one must examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
ReplyDeleteThis scripture has been thoroughly refuted, considering the number of apostates who are strong and healthy and alive even after two or three or more decades of unworthily taking the Passover.
"30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep."
ReplyDeleteOf course, that is not really why some were weak, sick or had died, but it's a nice way to connect life events to something it is not really connected to for theological and control advantage.
I read in ACTS 15:19-20 & again in v28 -29 only 4 requirements imposed on those new Gentile
ReplyDeletemembers.NOTHING to do with PO, DUB, or the fall HD's. This PO entry Seems to be just another of the many contradictions in scripture. Or was there a double standard followed then? One
for Jews & another for those Gentiles? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................................
You got it. They also felt the Second Coming to be imminent so it was not expected to be a long term view or dicotomy
DeleteAnother Q: IF Jesus Christ WAS the God of the OT..& then the "God of the NT" seems to me to
ReplyDeletebe rather TWO faced about it all. And it says Jesus Christ the same...yesterday, today & for-
ever. "Ponder this I must" a whole LOT more.........hope I don't turn "green" in the process.
I never felt discouraged. My biggest problem was getting more and more bored by most of the sermons. I kept wondering if it was just me who found them terrible.
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ReplyDelete"these Gods"? Is PCG the Pagan Clique of Gods?
Wasn’t the disco rage back in the ‘70s?
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In the article, Flurry mentioned that Christ recoiled at the thought of him losing His communion with His Father. And yet in the latter part, Flurry said that it's impossible for Christ to sin. Is it He was afraid to sin, or is it He cannot sin so why be afraid? Can't be both.
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