And then there is Wade Cox. Few splinter group leaders can compare to Cox. He claims the Muslims and the Koran are part of the true church. His fantastical scenarios of the end times are also as loopy as he is.
Very soon the Wars of the End will come to a completion. We will see the Wars of the End Part I: Wars of Amalek (No. 141C) cause many of the world sinners to die in the bio-chemical War of the Fifth Trumpet and the thermonuclear War of the Sixth Trumpet.
Then God will intervene with the arrival of the Two Witnesses Enoch and Elijah as explained in Wars of the End Part II: 1260 Days of the Witnesses (No. 141D). They will deal first with the Jews and the Churches of God. They will especially stamp out Mystical Kabbalism from Judah and the Sardis and Laodicean systems of Ditheism (No. 076B) or Binitarianism or Trinitarianism (No. 076)(cf. above). They will also stamp out the Hillel false calendar of post temple Judaism. Anyone practicing these heresies will be struck dumb and inflicted with the plagues as a first warning and then killed if they do not repent.
When the Witnesses are killed by the Beast power and lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3.5 days then Messiah and the Host will appear and they will be resurrected and taken to Christ and the entire First Resurrection will be translated and taken to Jerusalem to be with Christ to prepare for the millennial reign as explained in prophecy (Rev. Ch. 20). With Christ and the Host they will take over the earth and send the Fallen Host to Tartaros and then stamp out the military forces and apostate leadership of the world as explained in Wars of the End Part III: Armageddon and the Vials of the Wrath of God (No. 141E). The entire world will not accept Messiah except those of the elect who are called and chosen and faithful of the final Philadelphian system. The world will march against the Messiah as they opposed and killed the Witnesses (Wars of the End Part IIIB: War Against Christ (No. 141E_2)).
After many years of anticipation many of the Sardis system who have been deceived into believing Herbert Armstrong was Elijah? (No. 233) will refuse to accept the Witnesses. They will oppose the Witnesses and refuse to repent of their Ditheism, Binitarianism and Trinitarianism and refuse to reject Hillel and keep God’s Calendar (No. 156). They and their ministry will be given a chance to repent under the Witnesses. If they do not repent they will then be stricken with the plagues of Egypt and unless they repent they will be allowed to die or killed at the Return of the Messiah. If they repent they will miss the First Resurrection and will face the Tribulation but they stand a chance of living into the Millennium with the Jehovah’s Witnesses, who will also miss the First Resurrection due to their heresy, and the Adventists still alive who did not repent in time.
Then the Messiah and the Host will stamp out all false religion from Pseudo Christianity, Pseudo Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Animism and the Atheists to all other infidel systems (Wars of the End Part IV: End of False Religion (No. 141F)). There will be no person left alive who does not keep the Fourth and all other commandments (Ex, 20; Deut. 5; Surah 4:154). The entire planet will revert to the Food Laws (No. 015) of Leviticus ch. 11; Deuteronomy ch. 14; Surah. 3:093).
There will be no negotiation and no discussion. The world will do as it is told and obey God’s Laws (L1) or those people will die and be retaught in the Second Resurrection with the rest of the resurrected world after the Millennium.
Between now and the end of the Vials under Messiah the conflicts will not end and the majority of the world will die. That will be solely because they refuse to keep God’s Laws. One third will die under the Wars of the Trumpets and another quarter under the pestilence that follows. Then they will continue to die under the Witnesses and the wars of Messiah and the Vials. This will be taught by the servants of the demons as a good thing because the world is overcrowded.Can you imagine entering into the millennium and finding out these crackpots are in charge?
Who or what is the vials?
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ReplyDelete“The Church of God has produced hundreds of weird and crazy splinter group leaders of its existence. The estimates are between 400 - 700 different groups are out there preaching all kinds of heresies and utter nonsense.”
That is so true. They preach all kinds of HERESIES and UTTER NONSENSE.
There are not 666 true churches, but there might be 666 false ones.
ReplyDelete“Can you imagine entering into the millennium and finding out these crackpots are in charge?”
Nope! I cannot imagine that ever happening.
Dear old Cox. Thanks for letting us know about the fact that lots of people are going to die, unless we
ReplyDelete"repent".
But guess what, most are due to die in the next 25 years anyway, EVEN IF WE DO REPENT or are under the "grace of God".
It is appointed unto all men to die. Im not looking forward to the idea, but it is part of the process. I have faith in the fact that God promises that the "former things have passed away, and that there is no more tears or sorrow" yet in the future.
Even at its best, this life is a "grinder" even for the righteous. Amping people up in fear unless they bow their knees to your cult ia a completely unnecessary process, and is a manipulative , coercive technique that you are using.
I love the uplifting experience of and blessings for living a Christian life in the here and now, but I have always sincerely hoped that when we die we are just gone, and there is nothing after. To me, that would be the best offerings of both the Christian and atheist philosophies.
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Don't understand why you would hope there is no afterlife BB? Is this the baggage of your atheist era?
ReplyDeleteThat could be, Q. But, basically I've never seen the point of living forever and ever and ever. Being a spirit being might be exciting at first, but I'd give it 6 or 7 years until it becomes just another routine, a routine that unfortunately goes on forever and ever and ever. Boring! There is a certain amount of security in knowing or believing that there is a finite quality to life. You can squeeze enough into it if you have any sort of normal life cycle. Living forever doesn't seem like any sort of reward. Ruling doesn't appeal to me. While I like the idea of having control, I would hate to see my control extrapolated into ruling over others.
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ReplyDeleteLiving forever means acquiring never ending new skills and knowledge. There's no greater natural high than growing as a person.
That under one hundred year old humans can qualify to rule over 14 billion year old angels, implies that angels have been stagnating all these years.
Ruling doesn't appeal to me either, but I believe that "ruling" in the kingdom means ensuring that people play by the rules, as in a football game. The securing people's rights thingy. It doesn't mean endless patronizing and meddling in other's lives, as is the Armstrongite way.
Byker Bob,
ReplyDeleteLife without death renders life meaningless. It is death that brings meaning to life.
The HWA idea of spirit and a afterlife is flawed because its based on the bible, and the bible is not the word of God.
BB I suppose it depends on your perspective. The 'ruling' bit I have always looked on as being just an immediate necessity, to help others to understand God's ways and God's love. That is something that has a finite duration.
ReplyDeleteAfter that what happens? God clearly has things in mind, and I feel I can trust God not to give eternal life to beings, only to have them being bored and kicking their heels. I am sure God has plenty of plans for us all.
After all He has been around a long time. I take it that He is not bored with eternity! If that is correct, and God is not bored with life, I am sure He can show us how He actually enjoys that eternal life.
Just my immediate thoughts on the matter.
My perspective is that eternal life represents the ultimate end of personal control and independence. Being assimilated into a spiritual borg. On the other hand, I love the idea of living a Christian life presently as a physical human being and positively impacting the culture surrounding me by practicing good values like honesty and compassion.
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At 7:45 AM on March 6, Questeruk says in part: "God is not bored with life, I am sure He can show us how He actually enjoys that eternal life."
ReplyDeleteHe already has shown us, Q.
We are a reality show that he is producing and directing. Any story without conflict gets boring in short order. So when he (or his audience, whoever that may be) starts getting bored with it, he sets a trap and baits it like he did in Eden, or he sends a horde of his creatures off to perform genocide (a favorite plot device, repeated over and over), or he does it himself with a global flood, global ice age, or global warming. He constructed everything with fractal geometry, so that such calamities are repeated at all scales, from the global down to the regional such as earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, revolutions, border skirmishes, and so on. The pattern continues all the way down to hangnails, runny noses, and petty domestic squabbles.
Drama. That's what's required. Drama. All our trials and disappointments, all our satisfactions and triumphs, contribute to it. We must be vastly entertaining to him and to anyone else watching the show.
Ya know, RP, as an occasional hobbyist writer, I've experienced some of that drama vicarously by creating characters and allowing them to go though both good and bad situations. I love my characters, and get all caught up in them, empathizing with them When I am pondering events for them, I sometimes think something like, "No! I couldn't put innocent, good hearted, lovable Tami through something like that! I'll save that for bitchy Joanna." And then I write Tami into a challenging situation that she puts her mind to, and with a couple good breaks she sails right through.
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Where the hell does the bible say that we will rule angels? It says that we will judge angels but that's far from ruling them. God the Father will always be the Chief Ruler!
ReplyDeleteGod the Father will always be the Chief Ruler!
ReplyDeleteYes, but will He use the metric system, or will he use British Imperial units?
Greek interlinear for judge in 1 Cor 6:3 does not say anything about us ruling angels, and defines judge as follows:
ReplyDelete2919 krínō – properly, to separate (distinguish), i.e. judge; come to a choice (decision, judgment) by making a judgment – either positive (a verdict in favor of) or negative (which rejects or condemns).
J. Thayer comments that "the proper meaning of 2919 (krínō) is to pick out (choose) by separating" (as also used in Homer, Herodotus, Aeschyl., Xenophon, Plato). 2919 /krínō ("distinguish, judge") typically refers to making a determination of right or wrong (innocence or guilt), especially on an official (legal) standard. We only judge (2919 /krínō) accurately by intelligent comparison and contrast based on God's word, i.e. to approve (prefer) what is correct and reject what is inferior (wrong).
BB, I like your description of how you choose plot elements in your fictional stories and distribute them between sweet characters and nasty ones.
ReplyDeleteEven so, if a supernatural author is choosing plot devices the way you do, I hardly know where I stand. Three summers ago we had a terrible drouth. Our garden soil is so light and sandy it dries out in less than a week, and after three weeks without rain my vegetables were wilting and turning brown. In a family e-mail I complained about my discouragement and said I could take no solace from Matthew 5:45, which assures us that "Father which is in heaven. . .sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."
I said I could only conclude that I did not qualify as either one or the other.