Well, it is Saturday, April 4, 2020 and Dave Pack has proven himself to be a liar once again. Yesterday was to be the day that Dave's creature he calls "christ" was supposed to have returned to walk the hallowed grounds of the most superfantabulous campus ever built in this end time dispensation of the church. Once more he got caught in a lie and his members sit there like clap happy seals giving Dave their reverence (and money).
Why do Church of God members listen to all of these lying fools heading up their own little ministries these days?
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From RCG sources:
And no self respecting COG leader will ever admit that any of their members have corona. This is practice now in the RCG anyway: a few RCG members are infected, one member even in ICU. They’ve put in prayer requests, as is a normal practice. And guess what? None of these requests are forwarded to others, because the official guideline is that RCG members do not get corona. Or, as David Pack is putting it “God will continue to protect us!”
#8:42AM Meanwhile The Great Packster is telling the RCG members, that ‘There is not another Sabbath on the horizon’ ... And it is shocking to see what this does to people. This is the message he sent to his little flock yesterday:
Keep watching! Based on all we can “forecast,” another Sabbath this side of the Return of Christ, does not appear to be on the horizon. None of the ministers here at Headquarters can see it. One look around the nation and the world makes this impossible. Brethren, we say again, be sure to listen to the latest messages RIGHT AWAY. Time is short! While Ohio continues to have an exemption for religious organizations, the governor’s recent comments put this extraordinary exception under even greater threat. This should come as no surprise as the devil is desperately resisting God’s Work. As many around the world are trapped in their homes, let’s not forget Hebrews 13:16: “But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.” Continue to be your brother’s keeper. Fellowship over the phone and internet. Talk about the messages. We know you are praying for us here at Headquarters—know most assuredly that we are praying for all of you as well.
"The devil resisting packs work"?
ReplyDeletePack is ridiculous. He just doesn't know how to seize opportunity in crises.
With the entire world population at home, with a grasp of technology, Pack could address more people at once than the president of the United States and 5 times as many as hwa ever could.
Of course we would rather all tune in to the governor of New York who has nice stories on Italian family meals and the "closeness of New Yorkers" :-).
Anyway, my point is that Packs assumption('s) are preposterous from a broadcasting perspective.
Heck even some unknown dead people get more worldwide coverage than his preaching. And non of the limitless amounts of money available goes his way except for his followers inheritance dying from Covid, who attended services last week on his invitation.
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"Based on all we can “forecast,” another Sabbath this side of the Return of Christ, does not appear to be on the horizon."
ReplyDeleteWhat is that supposed to mean? Since the sabbath is only four days from now is he claiming that Jesus will return in the next three days? Or is he talking about having "official" sabbath services again? Having 'official" services is not what makes the sabbath the sabbath. Here's my "forecast", this sabbath will come Friday at sunset and Christ will still be in heaven!
Pack, you're an idiot!
Unless Pack plans to convince his flock to drink poison instead of wine at the Passover, It's about time for David Christ to be "raptured" to a small Caribbean island with no extradition treaties, where he can use the assets of RCG to live comfortably for the rest of his life in his very own Place of Safety.
ReplyDeleteThe Bible expression "your brothers keeper" is a William Tyndale translation. It's an unusual translation, and many project the wrong meaning into it.
ReplyDeleteDave Pack says: "...Keep watching! Based on all we can “forecast,” another Sabbath this side of the Return of Christ, does not appear to be on the horizon. None of the ministers here at Headquarters can see it..."
ReplyDeleteI don't know too much to say other than: "That's a stupid (ignorant?) comment to make!"
None of those ministers can see it b/c they are blind and God has nothing to do with Dave Pack. How do we know?
Matthew 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
If that weren't enough, where are the 2 witnesses? The 7 Trumps?
More Sabbaths are coming?
Time will tell...
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I certainly do not want to wish bad on any of the people in the ACOGs in this time of pandemic. However, if any of their leaders through their assinine edicts, and stupid bullheadedness end up being massive offenders, I would hope that they get called out, and receive very bad press and exposure. Problem is, they'll equate their actions not with their own human foibles, but with God, and then claim "persecution", therefore, hopefully whatever they do is unspinnable.
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Dear Apostle Pack
ReplyDeleteIt has come to my attention from my branch headquarters in Minion, Ohio that you have stated:
"Time is short! While Ohio continues to have an exemption for religious organizations, the governor’s recent comments put this extraordinary exception under even greater threat. This should come as no surprise as the devil is desperately resisting God’s Work."
While we here at the Continuing Church of Satan are not aware of any shortness of time, I must ask you to cease and desist from blaming my minions and myself for any shortness you feel in the time remaining in your work. We are in no way , desperately or otherwise, resisting you and can find no record of doing so. Frankly, having checked around, none of us, myself included, have ever heard of you.
In times past we did have some minor contact with the Worldwide Church of God but after a time it became apparent that neither the Armstrongs nor the Tkaches were worth our time and efforts. It was apparent that the Worldwide Church of God was no threat to me and would destroy itself without any help from us. We had bigger fish to fry.
Jesus and myself have been in touch over this very topic of the Restored Church of God and in particular the claims my own minions as well as Michael and Gabriel have kept Jesus informed about, that you make from time to time. Jesus and I were close back in the day and while we disagree on many things, we have maintained our friendship. He assures me he also has never heard of you and certainly not the Armstrongs. He said they and you were looking for him in all the wrong places from what he hears.
Jesus has withheld judgment on the Tkaches until he finds out what happened to all the money they made from the sale of their three campuses where they tried ever so hard to recapture true values but flopped from all we can tell. I told him not to hold his breath and we had a good laugh over that one and reminded me that running out of breath was not an issue with him anymore.
He did tell me he heard you said he would be coming to your Headquarters in Wadsworth, Ohio soon. He had to look it up on a map but said , "no...never been there and have no plans to do so anytime soon." I hope that clears that up.
So on behalf of Jesus and myself, please stop implying that I am resisting you in any way. From what my minions tell me, you are your own worst enemy and no resisting on my part is necessary or warranted. Jesus says in a couple of days you're going to tell your followers that he is giving you more time. But again, he told me to pass on that he's never heard of you so that's just all in your head.
On a lighter note, and then I'll close, I was kidding Jesus that even he got himself quarantined by the Romans back in the day. I did help out a bit with that one I admit. But true to Jesus sense of humor, he reminded me that he actually didn't spend much time in quarantine and got out in three days. "Very funny: I said...
"Warm" Regards
Satan formerly known as "The Devil"
The RCG "forecasters" have been on par with my local weather forecasters. This week alone we had 0% chance of rain twice and both days it rained.
ReplyDeleteNo more Sabbaths on the horizon is another bold statement that can only come from the daily North tower speculation meetings led by Mr. Pack himself. Mr. Pack has said all along he doesn't get this "information" from an angel or a dream, he gets it from the Holy Spirit only.
Mr. Pack to this day still hasn't revealed how the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of truth, leads a man unto profound gross and harmful speculations and interpretations which are criminal both physically and spiritually on the way to supposedly leading that said person into truth.
Another letter and another scenario described with the word impossible. At what time will these men and women wake up and think that it is now impossible to believe anything that comes out of the mouths of these "speculators" of biblical fortunes.
Dear Apostle Pack
ReplyDeleteI want to apologize ahead of time for not getting to you sooner but I have been overwhelmed with other Fundamentalist Ministers during this difficult time for humans worldwide. I just could not let many of their priceless and foolish claims pass and there have been so many. I have visited any number of them during this time of distress already and have many more to visit. So please be patient. I will eventually come around with what goes around. It's what I do and I do intend to stop by for a visit with you as well soon.
Thank you for your patience and no coughing until I get there please
See you soon
The Karma Fairy
Why does this post from Pack sound eerily like the last message from Jim Jones in the Guyana jungle suicide...
ReplyDelete"All over and it’s good. No, no sorrow that it’s all over. I’m glad it’s over… Hurry, hurry my children, hurry. All I say, let’s not fall in the hands of the enemy. Hurry, my children. Hurry … there are seniors out here that I’m concerned about. Hurry, I don’t want to leave my seniors to this mess. Quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly … sisters, good knowing you … no more pain now … no more pain I said, Al, no more pain"
@Tonto: My thoughts exactly.. All I see from Pack is stuff like this, week after week. To me it has been sounding like a ‘Jim Jones act’ for the last year or so, and every message sounds more urgent
DeletePack is building up to something and it is definitely not something good.. I fear for the RCG brethren.
6:31 am, Pack does not deserve to live off the assets of RCG, he should be made to live the life he demands of his people. He should not have any more money and should have the same standard of living that he demanded from others. Yes, he should be on an island by himself unless his wife chooses to go as well. There should be no outgoing communication so the constant BS would finally stop, at least from him. One last thing, no white shirts.
ReplyDeleteDid David C. Pack have a tramatic childhood?
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ReplyDelete“Based on all we can 'forecast,' another Sabbath this side of the Return of Christ, does not appear to be on the horizon.”
Rather vague.
Possible meanings:
1. The “return” of David “Christ” Pack from his World Headquarters Building to his private home on the cult compound will occur before Friday night.
2. The RCG members will never get another Sabbath rest ever again, because Dave Pack will work them 24/7/365 from now on. Giving them Sabbaths off would make them too lazy and unprofitable.
3. Whatever else Dave wants it to mean in hindsight.
Based on all we can “forecast,” another Sabbath this side of the Return of Christ, does not appear to be on the horizon.
ReplyDeleteMark my words, and bookmark this thread. This is the point at which David Christ will finally reveal his true identity to his flock.
He may wait a week or two. But then, while his people are confused and disappointed, he will reassure them. "Brethren, in my humility I missed what should have been obvious before, but My Father has now revealed the truth to me. Truly, I am the promised Christ, the Second Coming!"
He already has hinted on that a few times during the last months!
DeleteWARNING to the source: I really appreciate the "source" for sharing the insider secret propaganda. I hope you keep doing that. I think that the brethren are more embarrassed about dave's lunatic rants than they are believing him. That seems to happen a lot when you have a megalomaniac leader and those who follow him want to be noticed and receive something from the leader. So rather than tell dave that he's a nut, they want to hide his BS from everyone else, keep it their own dirty little secret (that their leader is a whack job). I know from experience that they will seek you out; source. They will call you an enemy, satan, the devil, etc. Be careful that you don't re-publish/forward the information that you are accessing verbatim. Don't pdf it or photocopy any docs. Because, I know, that once they come up with a short list of who the whistle blower might be, they will test their ideas by sanding a specially marked document or communication (minutely different punctuations or word order or spacing, or ...?) different than the mass mailing that they send securely to the insiders, and if you publish that marked version, they will tell your spouse that it's you and it's a big hassle, you don't want that. But please do keep it coming. I need to know too. Thanks so much for sharing. Be smarter than them, since you recognize this money grab scam, you are smarter than them.
ReplyDeleteThank you. I will take your warning to heart. I had already thought about that myself. I know what they are capable of. I've seen it..
DeleteDid somebody report to the police that during covid a high demand cult leader with a following announced "to not see a next sabbath?"
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We've consistently bet on Flurry and Pack to be the most likely ones to do a Jim Jones. The thing is, as of right now, both men have induced their followers to make so many sacrifices that they now have none of the things left which normally tie an individual to life on planet Earth.
ReplyDeleteWe also need to take a look at what would happen if either contracted the virus. Pack's mini-empire would do an HWA, and collapse. Flurry has his son, who may or may not be able to continue his dad's cult. I suspect that PCG's finances are highly leveraged. Upkeep of the infrastructure of PCG or RCG would most likely be their downfall if the fundraiser in chief were to suddenly succumb.
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how did all of you armchair resident COG experts miss this one...???
ReplyDeleteThis is Pack's "Gun-Lap" moment.
seriously, tighten up.
This is Pack's "Gun-Lap" moment.
ReplyDeleteWhat's scary is that it might be like Philip Apartian's gun-lap, or Karl Beyersdorfer's. Let's hope it's not like Terry Ratzmann's.
"We're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days; shortly before the last day of the last days."
ReplyDeleteStephen Lett- JW Governing Body member
I couldn't hope to make up something that good...
https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/coronavirus-report-interviews/
Ronco, good quote. I've been hearing variations of it since 1956! As the King of Siam might have said, "As for this Mr. Pack, he shall have been most unscientific!"
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Over the past year or so, during many of his lengthy sermons, David Pack repeatedly has made statements like “I’m not saying I am the Messiah. I never will say that. But you never know.. Who knows!”
ReplyDeleteThis is Captain Saul of the Titanic Church of God. As promised, my select elect have been delivered to Petra where I am worshipped by the locals as a god. We have secured our holes in the rock and plugged in washing machines so our horse-hair garments may always be bright. Women are lodged outside the main fortress so they can protect and support their husbands. My flaming message to all you leftover sheep is that you chose the wrong group. All I can say is ha!
ReplyDeleteWhen Dave says "I will never say that" historically it means "I'm about to say that"
ReplyDeleteI wonder what the closure of all the public schools is doing to the ACOG kids, who are now under virtual house arrest with their obsessive-compulsive parental units. Must be a real beyotch to suddenly go cold turkey off weed and ciggies!
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Many (read "too many") COG children already are home schooled. For obvious reasons, such as the "bad worldly influences" they would be exposed to if they would attend a public school..
Delete"None of the ministers here at Headquarters can see it." (another Sabbath on the horizon)
ReplyDeleteSo when Dave's prediction fails, he already knows who he will blame for misleading him.
Sabbath tomorrow, Jesus coming down from the clouds today? Hmmm Dave? Or....... what’s you next line of BS? Hahahah. Such a false profit. You shoulda stuck to selling vitamins. The. Maybe you’d still have your family and you could have a real job and pay taxes and maybe be a decent neighbor. Now your a parasite and estranged to all but the vulnerable whom you deceive and milk dry. Don’t forget your mask tomorrow Dave. Better yet, skip the mask and take deep breaths. :)
ReplyDelete4:43am What would you say if Wadsworth had a visitor from heaven yesterday before sunset?
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt that men of sound mind would agree that Christ was going to return before today. The ministers are just placating Dave because if they disagreed they will be out. Dave has used the one true Church, top down government, and one true apostle false doctrines to magnify himself above Christ.
ReplyDeleteThe membership will say that his timing is off a bit.
ReplyDeleteAnything Dave says they will buy. Lemming's.
You know what's worse than a lemming sitting in a seat at church? The ministers who will be complacent in the death of their own people. Its all about the money people.
7:30 AM wrote:
ReplyDelete4:43am What would you say if Wadsworth had a visitor from heaven yesterday before sunset?
I'd contact NASA and hope it was one of those really fascinating meteorites from beyond the solar system and not just another piece of junk from the Jupiter/Mars asteroid belt.
Pack is verbally dextrous, will spin his failures when the crisis has passed, and many of his followers will lap it up and continue to look to him. Eventually, the fact that he has so radically departed from sanity will catch up with him. Of course his health and life may well expire before his membership numbers dwindle to zero.
ReplyDeleteI was active on one of the old blogs that concerned itself with Ron Weinland. Weinland, as we know, continuously set and revised dates for the end of the age and second coming. In one of my blog comments following the failure of one of those dates, I exhorted the readers that rather than ridicule his followers, they should put themselves in the shoes of Ron's members, who might be diligently preparing for and anticipating with their entire being that they would actually be meeting Jesus in a few short months, only to experience extreme letdown of this supreme belief and dream when the date came and went with no such thing happened. I felt really badly for one of those followers who commented that she did not need to imagine that, that it had really happened to her, and it was devastating.
Hopefully, that lady is safely on the outside of Armstrongism now, and leading a renewed life. Unfortunately, times have changed, and the penalties for following wackos are more than just a devastating letdown. The penalties now include severe illness and perhaps death.
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I think this guy just became the favorite for the Annual William Miller 1844 Failed Prophecy Classic award with the Victor Houteff Oak Leaf Cluster.
ReplyDeleteOh, he'll just say "I meant we wouldnt gather for another Sabbath" and try to pawn it off that way.
ReplyDeleteCome on you unbelievers, don't you know that he really did return to the church but he won't reveal his true self to the world for three and a half years. After all he was cut off in the midst of his seven year ministry and still has three and a half years to teach the Wadsworth faithful how to rule with a rod of iron.
ReplyDeleteHey, it worked in 1844 why not now? lol
In three and a half years Pack will reveal himself as the Messiah, ready to set up his world ruling empire from Wadsworth. How much is a wad (Pack) worth?
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There has been many jokes given throughout the centuries where the obvious punchline was missed.
ReplyDeleteWith all of the shifting of the pertainant narrative, the true storyline has always been a constant and remained the same.
Elul 29, 2013 was marketed on the surface as "all brethren reunited". The side story to that story was that all of the church splinter's treasurers were going to bring all of the money reserves unto Mr. Pack and the brethren were going to bring their "Common" monies with them and the splinter leaders who didn't die by fire were going to worship at Mr. Pack's feet.
With the Spring and Fall 2014 failures of Mr. Pack's redo, a temple still had to be built and money had to come from somewhere and the narrative had to change. Now God was going to compel by the threat of death all Jews worldwide to send Mr. Pack "trillions" of dollars for him to build the third temple. With this third temple now built, Mr. Pack introduced to his membership that the Man of Sin was ready to appear, and as Elijah That Prophet he was going to reveal to the world just who he is. Jesus would return to the rebuilt temple but would soon retreat to his place in the back room of the temple for 3 1/2 years while the MOS wrecks the whole world sitting in the front part of the temple. The MOS would also telepathically sit in all the splinters causing the destruction of them.
When this narrative quickly fell apart by 2016, Mr. Pack quickly surmised that Jesus Christ would come to his spiritual temple which was located in of all places, Wadsworth Ohio. Angelic carpenters would build the Jerusalem temple.
With this narrative now established, the importance of the campus completion and beautification became the forefront doctrine hand in hand with "Common", which was to be layed at the feet of Apostle Pack.
The ever burning column of fire on the Wadsworth campus would not be enough to convince the world that the mustard seed Kingdom had started. There would have to be according to Mr. Pack a worldwide announcement of just who "I AM".
With his understanding that the return of Christ would be exactly how he left, which was as the Son of Man, Mr. Pack declared he would take on a new role which would be the biblical Man Clothed In Linen. He then in this role would with the help of six of his men, act as bodyguards and a forward contingent for the Son of Man and would hunt down and kill 2.5 million Israeli Jews and "millions" of other enemies with the edge of their swords.
Fall 2017 unto Spring 2018 was to be the return of the Son of Man. It was termed "too late" for those that did not cash out all that they had.
And now the RCG has thrown all their chips in these last few weeks for an "IMPOSSIBLE" to lose scenario that looks more possible by the minute.
If anyone missed the punchline, it is as the kids used to say on the playground, the joke is on you ha ha ha!
Jesus is or was working at Giant Eagle as a janitor until he was laid off a few days ago. He will be sleeping in pastor ass Daves garage until he can muster up some angels to implement the apocalypse on all you heather scum! Then the END will come!!!
ReplyDeleteHow much is a wad (Pack) worth
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Nothing to his kids.