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Wednesday, January 6, 2021
Dave Pack and the worship of the Wadsworth campus that is filled with occult symbolism
Whether it was a 10 million dollar Auditorium and "House for God" in 1971 or Dave's Garden of Cretin in Wadsworth, it defined (and apologized for), with "Matthew 24:46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns."
But no matter... Just send it in, take out a loan or second mortgage. Because we flee and you won't have to pay it back.
On the other hand, this particular presentation is not convincing of intent to use erotic or pagan symbols deliberately. Eye of the beholder I suppose.
True Dennis, it was meant to show Mr Perfect who preaches RCGs image everything has to be squeeky clean. He always tells everyone no appearance of evil, the utmost care for everything regarding Gods (Daves) campus.
Dee, may you find a strong Catholic priest to cleanse you of all evil that has enveloped you from your walk through the campus, the campus, the campus, the campus or was it the grand garden, the grand garden, the grand garden.
Hey occult symbols within a alleged COG. Would not surprise me in the least. The alleged planting symbols are quite interesting. Whoever did this video could be onto alot. Been saying for years how the Eret birds statue was occultic.
Herbert Armstrong had sterling silver platters with the zodiac emblazoned upon them and the lesbian Three Graces in the center of his dining table, so why should I not be surprised to see Dave's version of all this.
To Dave's shame, his pagan garden symbols don't rise to the grandeur of Herbie's dicks and balls garden features on the Pasadena campus. Please send poor Pack some cash!
This is Marie Antoinette Pack It's so disappointing that the posters on Banned don't appreciate my garden. My peasant tithe payers who can't afford bread to eat, can go eat cake. Ha. ha, ha.
I always loved the picture of Herbie's dining room table with the three lesbians dead center of the table. Delightful! Those young senior men must have loved staring at them while having Senior Dinners at Herbies house.
Its just a garden project meant to lift the denominational mood. Nothing more per se. To attempt to entangle it in all kinds of noisome symbolism is paying Armstrongists in their own coin but in the last analysis is just a defunct argument.
This is more concerning as the first step on the slippery slope inclining towards our becoming like Armstrongists in impaired rationality if not theology. Armstrongism consists of two principle moments: content and methodology. It is possible to condemn Armstrongism for its content but at the same time and in the same debate succumb to its methodology. But that's a sidebar.
Who can forget all the phallic ornamental shrubbery on the Pasadena campus. The steps leading to Ambassador Hall (Merritt Mansion) not only had the vertical phallus but nice perfectly rounded testicles next to them. The auditorium was supported by symbolic phalluses as was the Student Center. Given the amount of sex that went on in both these buildings, it was appropriate!
The auditorium had a symbolic female vagina with an erect sculpture protruding out of the center of it. Looking at an arial shot you can see the pagan fertility goddess in the bridge configuration. With the vagina or heart in the middle, arms out stretched to the SC and HofA, the torso descending down to front of auditorium and the legs extending out along the front and then down along the side of the auditorium with the walkways.
I always wondered why the RCG needs a Grand Garden, stables and expensive horses whilst a lot of members live in poverty. I know a lot of RCG members asked the church for financial help last year because of the corona crisis and all they got was ‘We are sorry, we can’t help you. The church doesn’t have the funds for that’
The already financially drained members funded this garden. The sad part is that they are not allowed to use it except on the Sabbath and then only for a short period of time.
By using the same kind of anti-pagan arguments against the COGs that they use against other Christians, it may well help those in the COGs recognize they are being inconsistent in their defending of the COGs but not other Christians. That seems to be the motivation of the video.
Whether it was a 10 million dollar Auditorium and "House for God" in 1971 or Dave's Garden of Cretin in Wadsworth, it defined (and apologized for), with "Matthew 24:46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns."
ReplyDeleteBut no matter... Just send it in, take out a loan or second mortgage. Because we flee and you won't have to pay it back.
And the gospel of the garden will be preached to all the nations as a witness, then the end will come.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, this particular presentation is not convincing of intent to use erotic or pagan symbols deliberately. Eye of the beholder I suppose.
ReplyDeleteTrue Dennis, it was meant to show Mr Perfect who preaches RCGs image everything has to be squeeky clean. He always tells everyone no appearance of evil, the utmost care for everything
ReplyDeleteregarding Gods (Daves) campus.
Dee, may you find a strong Catholic priest to cleanse you of all evil that has enveloped you from your walk through the campus, the campus, the campus, the campus or was it the grand garden, the grand garden, the grand garden.
ReplyDeleteHey occult symbols within a alleged COG. Would not surprise me in the least. The alleged planting symbols are quite interesting. Whoever did this video could be onto alot. Been saying for years how the Eret birds statue was occultic.
ReplyDeleteHerbert Armstrong had sterling silver platters with the zodiac emblazoned upon them and the lesbian Three Graces in the center of his dining table, so why should I not be surprised to see Dave's version of all this.
ReplyDeleteThe egret was not occult. The initial statue was intended without the pole. Pasadena construction procedures mandated the reenforcement pole.
ReplyDeleteThe meaning and name was "Aspiration", as in the soaring of the human spirit into greatness.
As was tbe meaning of the platters, fit for kings and emperors to dine from as a parting gift to AC graduates.
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Exotic Gardens paid for by people selling their homes and retirements and living like paupers.
ReplyDeleteWHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??
To Dave's shame, his pagan garden symbols don't rise to the grandeur of Herbie's dicks and balls garden features on the Pasadena campus. Please send poor Pack some cash!
ReplyDeleteThis is Marie Antoinette Pack
ReplyDeleteIt's so disappointing that the posters on Banned don't appreciate my garden.
My peasant tithe payers who can't afford bread to eat, can go eat cake. Ha. ha, ha.
"God saw how corrupt the earth had become. So God said to Noah Pack "make yourself a park at thou Wadsworth campus."
ReplyDeleteI always loved the picture of Herbie's dining room table with the three lesbians dead center of the table. Delightful! Those young senior men must have loved staring at them while having Senior Dinners at Herbies house.
ReplyDeleteIts just a garden project meant to lift the denominational mood. Nothing more per se. To attempt to entangle it in all kinds of noisome symbolism is paying Armstrongists in their own coin but in the last analysis is just a defunct argument.
ReplyDeleteThis is more concerning as the first step on the slippery slope inclining towards our becoming like Armstrongists in impaired rationality if not theology. Armstrongism consists of two principle moments: content and methodology. It is possible to condemn Armstrongism for its content but at the same time and in the same debate succumb to its methodology. But that's a sidebar.
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Who can forget all the phallic ornamental shrubbery on the Pasadena campus. The steps leading to Ambassador Hall (Merritt Mansion) not only had the vertical phallus but nice perfectly rounded testicles next to them. The auditorium was supported by symbolic phalluses as was the Student Center. Given the amount of sex that went on in both these buildings, it was appropriate!
ReplyDeleteThe auditorium had a symbolic female vagina with an erect sculpture protruding out of the center of it. Looking at an arial shot you can see the pagan fertility goddess in the bridge configuration. With the vagina or heart in the middle, arms out stretched to the SC and HofA, the torso descending down to front of auditorium and the legs extending out along the front and then down along the side of the auditorium with the walkways.
I always wondered why the RCG needs a Grand Garden, stables and expensive horses whilst a lot of members live in poverty. I know a lot of RCG members asked the church for financial help last year because of the corona crisis and all they got was ‘We are sorry, we can’t help you. The church doesn’t have the funds for that’
ReplyDeleteHow come they have the funds for a GARDEN????
The already financially drained members funded this garden. The sad part is that they are not allowed to use it except on the Sabbath and then only for a short period of time.
ReplyDeleteNEO,
ReplyDeleteBy using the same kind of anti-pagan arguments against the COGs that they use against other Christians, it may well help those in the COGs recognize they are being inconsistent in their defending of the COGs but not other Christians. That seems to be the motivation of the video.
Sex has been the only common denominator with COG splinter groups.
ReplyDeleteI can only imagine the amount of third tithe requests rcg turned down last year...
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ReplyDeleteMakes for GREAT COMEDY!!! ***GREAT*** video!! I laughed almost the entire time!! Sad it is a TRUE story!!