Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Tuesday, February 23, 2021

Dave Pack: There has never been a COG that has had more vile, rebellious, heretical, criminal, and opportunistic people in its midst than this !

 


Remember, this is a Church of God where the leader is never at fault. 

It is always those ungrateful sods that are employees and members.

Even though I will begrudgingly take your money, you are still nothing more than walking pieces of Laodicean garbage, unfit to be in my presence.

7 comments:

  1. Dave should know that it is a normal thing. It’s called ‘The law of attraction’. From Wikipedia:

    “.... The law of attraction will certainly and unerringly bring to you the conditions, environment, and experiences in life, corresponding with your habitual, characteristic, predominant mental attitude ...”

    You take a manic like Dave Pack, a malignant narcissist, a corrupt person that doesn’t hesitate to lie, steal and cheat, and that person expects to attract saints?
    Or even better; Dave expects to attract Christ like this?

    And that is how the law of attraction works. If you yourself are okay with manipulating the people around you, if you are okay with lying to your loved ones because ‘the church’ is all important, you will stay in that cult.

    If you’re not okay with all the secrecy, the lies and the abuse, you will leave.

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  2. Sure wasn't any of that when I was giving on a monthly basis:

    - First Tithe
    - Tithe of Tithe
    - Leftover Second Tithe
    - Third Tithe
    - Offerings
    - Volunteering on the campus on Sunday landscaping
    - Working Mon-Fri doing everything on top of my actual job
    - Setting up and breaking down the halls multiple times on Saturday, opening doors for people who never could say hi, bringing in food, vacuuming, etc.
    - Fundraising Money
    - I was paying on top of everything to attend Ambassador Center
    - I dressed the part
    - Never stepped out of line
    - Said yes
    - Shoveled for others and never had time to shovel for myself
    - It goes on and on

    But as soon as I cut RCG off and stop being a cash cow for them and free labor in many cases, I became all these things.

    I sacrificed a lot, gave up my own path for a cause I believed in, and quietly like many others who needed something to look too, I gave RCG the best of me in all areas, and yet that was simply not worthy.

    People who are in the RCG need to hear us, former members, when we say: "Why are you being faithful to a place and person who won't be faithful to you once you are no longer giving them $$$$$$$$$$$$ and free labor"?

    I have sat at HQ before Dave Pack and heard him in real-time completely assassinate the character of HQ ministers/employees who would leave. A lot of these never made it onto the tapes/cd or online files because they were cut.

    But I truly sat there as Pack would spit and rage over ministers and employees who would leave and hear him divulge details of their sins. He would never directly say but infer and when David Pack infers you can most certainly use enough common sense to know who and what he is talking about.

    Over time I felt two things: 1. I cannot safely counsel with HQ ministers and 2. Something had to be wrong if every time a minister or employee left, Pack thought it necessary to go to great lengths to assassinate their character. Something didn't sit right with me about that and I just wanted to hear the other side.

    It's not surprising when you hear it. You sort of expected it. It certainly is disappointed. Because you feel like you wasted time.

    RCG members are conditioned to believe that any kind of questioning internally or externally = loss of salvation.

    This is clearly evidenced in his recent sermon where he states that those who believe they have made it to 1335 are locked in, and settled.

    David Pack has proven himself to be a false prophet and not one minister has enough balls to stand up at the pulpit and give a refresher on what a false prophet looks like.

    You shall know them by their fruits is in the context of false prophets, remember that! Matthew 7:15–18

    Testing the spirits is in the context of false prophets. 1 John 4:1

    David's prophecy is from his own will, and he has a need to be right, to prove himself. 2 Peter 1:20–21

    “I did not send David Pack, yet he ran; I did not speak to him, yet he prophesied".

    Jeremiah 14:14
    Zechariah 10:2
    Jeremiah 23:16
    Jeremiah 23:21
    Micah 3:11
    2 Peter 2:1–3
    Matthew 7:15–18

    The NT has a lot to say about false teachings and false prophets and yet there is no actual prophet in the new testament, that office isn't seen until two witnesses come later on. But why is that?

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  3. Christian churches would be a lot simpler IF there was not anything to gain from the hierarchy, or control.

    Eliminate the money, the status, or any other benefit other than the spiritual , and you will quickly see the sociopaths go somewhere else for their fulfillment.

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    1. Tonto, what do you propose, monastic common, basic income, pulpit in the middle instead of the front?

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  4. 12.19 AM
    For members, it's more complicated than you make out. All cults use thought reform, poison their members minds against the outside world (outsiders are all evil and of Satan), and are threatened with the lake of fire if they leave their group. Typically, people don't join cults. Rather they join groups that turn out to be cults.

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  5. Ron Dart remarked once that 90% of speakers in ACOG shouldn't be. 'The ones that got known as trouble makers in AC only went worse when promoted to the ministry' he added.

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