It's a hot day in California, and in more ways than one. Our favorite self-appointed dreamy prophet and Great Bwana to Africa and 299 Caucasians, who was kicked out of the Living Church of God by Rod Meredith over his crazy theological stances, got a major smackdown from an LCG minister who spilled the beans on why Bob Thiel left LCG, and boy oh boy, is Elijah steaming mad! Nothing infuriates apostate Bob more than having LCG ministers and members not acknowledge him as a prophet.
06/17/21 p.m. Someone told me today that an LCG minister wrote to him that the "main reason" that I left that church was because LCG did not consider me to be a prophet. That is untrue.
As it turns out, the particular minister who indicated that never talked to me to ask why I left. So, how could he know the main reason I left?
The only way would be if I told him, someone I spoke with told him (or someone else who told him what I said), or he read what I wrote about it. For those interested in the truth, here is a link to an article about why: Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God.
The Bible warns repeatedly in the Old and New Testaments about not bearing "false witness."
It is being a false witness to claim to know the "main reason" why I left when 1) it was not the reason at all and 2) the writer cannot read minds (cf. 1 Samuel 16:7). Yet, that is a false narrative which many in my former association have chosen to believe.
Because they know the truth!
In addition to bearing false witness, the Bible warns against "whoever loves and practices a lie" (Revelation 22:15).
As people who truly know me realize, I left LCG because its top leadership informed me it would not correct doctrinal, historical, and prophetic errors that it had--and had previously agreed to correct. It is a lie to believe otherwise.
For just one example of uncorrected errors, here is a link to LCG's 2011 Statement of Beliefs with my proposed corrections, December 2011 Proposed changes to LCG's Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs. Dr. Meredith originally promised to completely make these corrections by January 2012--but he failed to do. Then on 28 December 2012, Dr. Meredith made it clear he completely renigged on that promise and many others--I left LCG that day. The prophet matter was NOT why I left (though it was a factor in deciding I had no choice but to then declare a separate organization).
It's funny to look back at the day Rod Meredith posted his letter kicking Bob out of LCG. We had it posted here when he read it. He did not know at that moment. Bob threw a hissy fit and then officially posted about how he was starting his own splinter group. LCG members turned their backs on him, awesomely!
The only 'prophet' recognition that matters is God's, who appoints prophets per 1 Corinthians 12:28 . Many act like they do not realize that, but instead talk against that which they do not want to accept (cf. Matthew 5:11-12; Acts 7:52).
Self-appointing one's self to prophethood status does not make one a prophet, particularly when it is one who has lied about the many reasons he is "chosen" to be a splinter group leader. Having nightmares and dreaming up fantastical stories to prove your legitimacy does not make on a prophet either.
Public/official 'prophet' recognition by LCG was NOT a factor in my choosing to leave--particularly since ALL the then LCG HQ evangelists stated that God might consider me to be a prophet. This was also directly confirmed to me by Dr. Doug Winnail in September 2012 and after I left in January 2013 (and that 2013 time was in writing).
It is a FACT that not ALL LCG evangelists thought Bob might be a prophet. If any of them thought that then it is proof that these guys were not real ministers. No one and I mean no one has any reason to believe Bob is a prophet. God expects no such things. No one needs to hear ANYTHING Bob says.
Furthermore, as Dr. Winnail, Dr. Meredith, and Richard Ames were aware, it was certainly not my desire to start a separate church organization.
Yet, sadly, most with LCG have chosen to believe something about my departure that is not true.
The Bible specifically warns, "Cursed is he who does the work of the Lord deceitfully" (Jeremiah 48:10).
The above scripture is why I had to leave and biblically know why, without repentance, LCG cannot possibly lead the final phase of the work and CCOG can.
Those who believe otherwise are trusting in a lie.
The poor little guy just cannot get any respect!
Poor Rodney Dangerfield, just could not get any respect. Great comic who had many in stitches.
ReplyDeleteJust like poor Big Bwana Bob.
Has us all in stitches.
But still no respect.
Bwana bob is a pretty funny guy.
ReplyDeleteA true prophet would not have to convict others that he is a prophet. From many Biblical examples prophets were not treated well and they did not regard themselves as superior to others. Many of the true prophets did not want the job and tried hard to convince Yahweh that they were not fit for the job. Some tried to run away.
ReplyDeleteToday many so-called prophets spend much of their time trying to hook others into believing that they are true prophets. They do so in order to ensure a steady stream of money coming into their organization. Religious organizations are known for their deception though most people are too gullible to discern their true intents.
Thus far, Bob hasn't given one prophecy (that I know about), that would indicate that perhaps he is a chosen one for this job. Instead, he continues his 'flag waving' trying his best to talk into a reality that he is what he says he is.
As the old saying goes, where is the beef?
I have never understood why anyone would have the side job need to claim to be a prophet. Is this an expression of a egoic need to be considered special? Is it a mental glitch? The amount of time Bob seems to put into writing long long explanations of things most don't want or need an explanation for plus having a naturopathic practice must leave family on the rocks. With a special needs child even more. I notice too that Bob never makes reference to either family or spouse. Perhaps they have agreed to keep her out of it unlike Ron Weinland who present themselves as a Apostolic and Prophet/Prophetess tag team.
ReplyDeleteIn my view and that of others, OT prophets had an assortment of mental issues and in the bronze and iron age cultures, no one understanding them, they seemed unique. Schizophrenia (Ezekiel), Major depression (Jeremiah) and perhaps temporal lobe epilepsy (Paul) could easily explain their weird behaviors and claims. If, at minimum, I had noticed that children, back in the day, that throw themselves down, shake and go catatonic got over it in about 30 minutes, (Epilepsy) I could bring them back with good timing and be an awesome healer too. Soothing the anxiety ridden could also be a handy skill back when life was cheap and Rome was watching you.
Buried in Bob's sob, Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God is a line:
ReplyDelete7) I left LCG because of ITS lack of integrity
In a Summary way before, Bob lists some 17 other reasons why he left. Several places he didn't leave the LCG because they didn't consider him a prophet. And, IMHO, rightly so, because he wasn't.
IF Bobbylonia was a prophet, and accurately predicted events etc, to the letter, the line to his church would be a mile long of COG folks.
ReplyDeleteHe wouldn't need to keep demanding the "mantle", as it would be self evident that he had some kind of unique , special insight.
It is sort of like the quack products advertised on the internet to either "make you longer and harder in bed" or to cure baldness. If the stuff really worked, again there would be lines miles long to get the stuff, and there would be no need to advertise at all.
Thiel--- Here is the Pepsi challenge, either put up or shut up. Give a precise, exact , non fungible prediction, like the exact time and place and magnitude to the first decimal place of a remote earthquake or the like and THEN , someone might want to listen to your self proclaimed and self oradained mind mapping.
"renigged"
ReplyDeleteApparently Meredith nigged on that promise and then nigged once again.
Sadly, this level of linguistic mastery would fit right in at several COG splinters.