From an RCG source regarding sermon 336.
(~25:20) - “Remember my [Dave Packs] task at the end is to remove mystery, to remove things that are cloudy. And we're going to see more of that in a minute, in a way we never have and the whole 336 sermons.”
(~10:30) - “There are an awful lot of verses. We looked at one year ago and two years ago, but weren't quite sure how to read and they said they had a lot to say about, God says, "I'm going to destroy all your holidays." And we wonder what is that? Would God allow the man of sin to come and keep Christmas or bring Christmas back to the world after the kingdom of God had come? Would He even want men to keep Thanksgiving/ Those are just interesting questions. I can't give you an exact answer, but, five verses at least point pretty strongly that the man of sin is here somewhere around or before Christmas. He may be dead by Christmas or may arrive on Christmas, but there would have been nothing about Christmas that was allowed to be kept.
In the Kingdom worldwide, Christmas is just shut down! It's beginning to rev up, the songs, the incense, the covetousness, the decorations, the lights, the shopping, the people whizzing all over the place, too much to drink, overspending, gluttony, parties, caroling is not quite here yet, but some of it is, and the shopping. And so it's just an interesting thing to put in the back of your mind. If God let some of it get going, and then sends Christ and Elijah [Dave Pack] would be the one who'd have to say this. "See all of this, God hates it, shut it down! It's over worldwide." Nobody will do one more thing regarding Christmas until potentially around a little before or at or whatever Christmas time, this guy comes back.”
I love that we are back to attacking Christmas this time of year! It makes me chuckle that he still speaks against it with the ferocity he does. This is now the third time Dave has prophesied the return of Christ/man of sin/some big event on Christmas. (Third time is the charm!)
December 12, 2019 - Dave Pack: (paraphrased) "The season" in Luke 12:42is the Christmas season. I defy you to say that is wrong. Either when (Dave is) speaking or during the Christmas season Christ returns. Saturday night is my last message and I am sticking to it!"
January 2, 2020 - Dave Pack “The powerful case for New Year’s remains unchanged. It is still noumenia today and will be through midnight. All who understand the dynamic of New Year’s know heavy drinking is scheduled to continue through tonight, and frankly on through what will be for many a “long, lost weekend.” It became clear that we needed to have this pagan festival [he lumped in Christmas/New Years this year] behind us. It also became clear that God, as we have wondered many times in the past, may use the Sabbath in a big way. All evidence has come to point to sometime this evening.
(~1:58:00) - “Now let's back up, in the days of his [Dave Pack] voice when he's about to sound, it says "it's present active." This is my [Dave's] last message. Surely you must all know that. What would I tell you on Monday or Wednesday? I can't imagine, I've been surprised before, but all the mystery is over. But it looks like it's "present active." When he [Dave Pack] sounds.
Now it's going to take a few days for all of God's people to hear this because "the good man of the house [Dave Pack] warns the house" and they know what's going on before anybody else does, and their lights are burning and they're going to get the kingdom.
So the "days of his voice," or he's rushing to call it out, he's rushing because what we're going to have a two week layoff? We're going to shoot way on into December or something? Why is he [Dave Pack] rushing to call it out? Well, for the same reason that the days of his voice and his final messages are contiguous, they're present active. When he's about to sound for the first time. Now that picture in Revelation 10:7 describes the things he does, finishes a series, as I understand it brethren, and sounds, and Christ is still in heaven waiting to come and tell him [Dave Pack], eat the book. And we're going to deal with Israel in two phases.”
Part 336 - You heard it here, this is his last message, I think we hold him to it. (There are literally a ton more times he claims that either he/Christ/God finished the series. Hasn’t happened yet.
Part 294 - “So the "mystery of God" was not done without today's sermon, the proverbial, "No Way!" It just wasn't. And it resets timing! Because there's one last message.”
Part 287 - “It's all there, it is right, and it is this is the last message that I was led by god to explain.”
Part 224 - “This is the last sermon you will ever need to hear!”
Part 175 - “This is the last part of the series!”
Part 168 - "The sermon series ends with Part 168!"
(36:20-37:00) - “So there would be a time when complete understanding of prophecy would arrive. Now, probably not quite as absolutely perfect as when God raises him [Dave Pack] and he talks to the world. We're going to see that a little before Christ gets here, but it is important to understand in light of what you're going to hear tonight. We may be learning the complete picture tonight. So the series [Dave Pack] has been prophesying in part, it was always building to when that, which is in part is done away with it's made entirely void. I mean, we've been a long time, but in some ways I'm going to just do away in a single stroke tonight through an amazing exercise. I'm going to do away with a lot of what we understood, while validating every bit of it. Now how in the world can we do that?
Once again, either God revealed this for the third time to Dave or He didn’t.We now have "the almost complete picture." Christ will bring a little more but it's complete enough that God says before this man [Dave Pack] ever sounds. And he [Dave Pack] actually sounds up to a day before Christ gets here, the picture will be complete. So when is that it's supposed to be in the days of his [Dave Packs] voice? Well, it's been four days, but I've been banging away here for a while. Recently, clearing things up, he's [Dave Pack] rushing to call it out. And at a certain point, he [Dave Pack] gets to a last message and that triggers something. And this isn't that message, but it's the last message probably I will give to you. And it's the last message you will need to hear from me.”
Draw your own conclusions.
Dave reacts to Christmas the way a demon-possessed person reacts to an exorcist. Maybe there's something to the pagan Christmas tradition after all!
ReplyDeleteDave simply sounds any number of mental patients I visited in hospitals over the years. No diff.
ReplyDeleteAnd this nut is running the asylum!
DeleteDave said , in regards to Xmas.... "the people whizzing all over the place, too much to drink, overspending, gluttony, parties,"
ReplyDeleteSounds a lot like many FOT locations that I have witnessed over the decades.
Tonto, Pack is projecting!
DeleteTonto wrote: Dave said, in regards to Xmas.... "the people whizzing all over the place, too much to drink, overspending, gluttony, parties," Sounds a lot like many FOT locations that I have witnessed over the decades."
ReplyDeleteMinisterial dining room in Pasadena at the Feast. That was an eye-opening experience the first time I worked it. A couple of those guys had to be assisted to be able to walk out of the room they were so drunk
Was Herbert one of those that had to be helped? GTA said they had to pour HWA into bed every night.
DeleteThanks to Dave and Bob Thiel's vendetta against Christmas I decided to keep it last year, What a joyful Christ-filled event! This year I will be sitting in front of the fireplace, eggnog in hand, eating some yule log cake, admiring the Christmas tree, as I await the Man of Sin arriving! What an amazing time to be alive!
ReplyDeleteHe's lost it. Depraved Pack is headed for a train wreck, and it ain't gonna be pretty.
ReplyDeletePack and Flurry, diving headlong into the rabbit hole of insanity. They do their best to erase Christ out of their false gospel and replace it with one focused on church government, their own greatness and narcissistic lust for power and grandeur and idol worship of HWA. It is true that they cross and heaven & earth to make a convert but the end result is it is worse for the new member than if he had been a non believer.
ReplyDeleteI'm a pagan, so I have to keep Christmas.
ReplyDeleteDepraved Pack is headed for a train wreck, and it ain't gonna be pretty.
ReplyDeleteNot pretty? All he needs to do is sell the real estate he owns, including a bunch of homes that will sell a lot faster than a white elephant "campus" property. He'll be able to retire with several million dollars. And then he can republish his famous "Don't follow me if I become apostate" statement, and can write off his victims as fools and suckers for failing to heed his warning.
If you have this sermon please share, apparently its no longer on Dave's library
DeleteYou guys had me rolling on the floor laughing, this stuff is good. You should be writing for some comedy show. Keep it up, it makes for comedic excellence.
ReplyDeleteI need to hurry up and get my X-mas shopping done before it's too late!
ReplyDeleteDave just destroys the Savior over and over and over through these ridiculous prophecies. You RCG folk believe he's a Christ whisperer? If so, what a bizarre personality he is reflecting for Jesus. When are you all going to finally realize that it would be far less traumatic to have just been lied to about Santa?
ReplyDeleteLast year he stated Christ would come back at Christmas, then when that did not happen, he said Christ would come back at New Year's.
ReplyDeleteLose cannon on deck,run for your lives. Any adheasion to reality has long disappeared. Fantasy and madness are now intertwined. Medication must be increased. Extreme caution is advised and should be exercised.
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