Ron Weinland isn't known in the COG movement as the brightest bulb in the box and apparently more and more of his followers are waking up to that fact and abandoning him and his looney Witless Witness wife Laura.
Weinland has less than 1,500 people left in his cult and those numbers drop by the day. It's amazing they have lasted this long since his 2008 prophecy failed with a massive public mocking and his imprisonment for 3 1/2 years.
Like Bob Thiel, Windland raves about his massive outreach on the internet thanks to technology. It's kind of the same empty boasting that Theil does. Never has the church seen such a great and awesome work proceeding from the mouth of the holy anointed one. God has been constructing a mighty work in Ronnie's basement so that Laura can buy more diamonds and wear them as they travel. Laura wears those diamonds as they travel in case they have to flee immediately to Jerusalem where they can cash them in so that she and Ronnie can witless witness in the streets of Jerusalem.
Why we’re not 5,000 people. If we were 5,000 people we would not be nearly as unified and at one as we are. If we were 2,000 people we would not have the ability to be nearly as unified as we are. This is the end of a process of training, of molding and fashioning, of completing 144,000. Doesn’t take a lot to accomplish it. And it’s being done in an environment of greater unity and oneness in a sense, in the Church has ever had in a long, long, long, long...
It really hasn’t had what we have ever to this degree because of technology. Because I can speak here, and it goes around the world. Incredible. People watching it already this morning, early this morning in Australia, New Zealand, some staying up late to watch it in the UK, in The Netherlands because they can’t wait until next week! Which is great! And then they listen to it again and build upon what they heard last week (or this week). Incredible. Awesome.
But to understand God has given us this at the end to finish something, to complete a process of construction because of what He’s constructing, it’s an awesome thing that we’re all a part of. And it’s hard for us to grasp how great this really is sometimes and our part in it.
So, God’s word is not confined. God’s going to do what He’s going to accomplish. It’s going to get done. And we have the blessing of being part of it, with it, or not. But every year people choose the “or not.” It’s hard. It’s hard to watch that. Rips it apart inside here sometimes. It really does. It rips apart. It’s difficult to watch those choices being made. To walk to God’s house side by side, counsel blended sweet. Some who were with us for so, so long and then stab you in the back. It’s human beings, human nature.
Nobody in ANY of the ACOGs has a clear & definitive interpretation of the "144,000". Even my days back in WCG their booklet on the subject was riddled with theories and confusion!
ReplyDeleteThe Armstrong cults are apostates!
ReplyDeleteI believe that there are two sets of 144,000. The first is the elite that comes down with Christ on Mount Zion at His second coming. The second group is part of the great multitude, the 12,000 from each tribe of Israel.
ReplyDeleteWeinland and his old lady, have been at this "two witness thing" for something like 14 years now.
ReplyDeleteThe Biblical 2 Witnesses are only around for 3.5 years. Weinland's crap fantasy are so old and rotten now that it is a major source of CO2 emissions.
Ron Whineland's conclusion stated: "...Some who were with us for so, so long and then stab you in the back. It’s human beings, human nature..."
ReplyDeleteRon makes it sound like human nature is some kind of evil, but to believe that is to call God a liar. Now, there is a nature involved, but it isn't human nature.
What kind of nature did Adam and Eve have after their creation? Human nature, of course, and it was not evil, b/c God inspired it to be said that their creation was "very good:"
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Genesis 1:31
To say otherwise, as Ron has implied, is to call what God saw and created was evil and not very good.
How did Ron get "stabbed in the back?" Now, that sounds evil.
Would Ron think that Abel got "stabbed in the back?"
But wasn't Abel "'rocked' to sleep?" Yes. What caused it? Cain's human nature? No.
In fact, Cain had the same nature that Ron has. Why did Cain kill his own brother?
"Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous." I John 3:12
Some other spirit was driving Cain to do what he did: that wicked one. Did the Bible lie again? What would Ron think? What would that wicked one have to do with someone's murder?
Cain had another "spirit in man" within him, and it's true of Ron too:
"Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?" James 4:5
What spirit might that be? Hint:
"He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil." I John 3:8
That is not a very pleasant thought to consider. Does Satan and his angels have that power to take an individual, a nation, a world and make them captive and have it somehow yoked to bondage?
2 Tim 2:26 "And [that] they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."
Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage."
There was sin in Cain's life, just as there is sin in Ron's life. Was Cain's sin of Cain, or was Cain's sin of the devil? Again, unless God's inspired word is false and God lied again, the murder, the sin, was of the devil.
Returning to whiney Ron Whineland, who feels like he was stabbed in the back b/c of the human nature of others, is that really true? Ron Whineland, like Bob Thiel, think they are prophets of some sort. It would appears to prophets falsely so-called. Is Ron’s blaming and judging fellow human beings for the evil in his own life the real problem, or might something else be the actual cause of the evil in Ron’s life?
Will Ron study more of God's Word to learn, as Jesus Christ learned and knew (Matthew 23:33-35), that one's being “stabbed in the back” is NOT caused solely by human beings or human nature, but perhaps by a generation of spirit(s) that drive human beings to do/say evil things?
Time will tell...
John