Updated with the addition of Samuel Baxter and deletion of Tim Willard
Tim Willard and his wife just left the Restored Church of God
Dave Pack has fourteen hand-picked enablers that rubber stamps each and every opinion that Dave utters. Not a single one of these men has any balls left to stand up to the endless stream of Dave's lies that are wrecking the lives of RCG members.
These men ultimately do NOT care that members are suffering as they sit in their cult-owned homes on the Wadfswroth compound. If any of them ever made a stand and stood up to Dave they know they would lose their homes and jobs.
These are Dave's 14 advisors, or more accurately, tape recorders. They sit and listen, nodding in approval, and never say, "Dave, you are wrong". They lap it all up and then head out and spread the word to the members.
Bradford Schleifer
Edward Winkfield
Ryan Denee
Dr. Jaco Vilgoen
James Habboush
Andrew Holcombe
Kenneth Orel
Salsa Jezhi
Samuel Baxter
Frank Lydick
Dr. Tim Ranney
Raymond Garb
Carl Houk
Larry McElroy
Is Ryan Denee a son, or relative of Kevin Denee? If so, it would probably make for an uncomfortable Thanksgiving gathering!
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ReplyDeleteA couple of Doctors are listed here.
I can only presume they are in the same league as Doctor Bob Thiel.
On the lighter side you could say they are Dave’s quacks.
They just go quack quack quack quack at the bosses words.
Dr. Tim Raney is an accomplished heart Dr. From the cleveland clinic, Dr. Jaco Viljoen is a medical Dr. From South Africa
DeleteTonto wrote: "Is Ryan Denee a son, or relative of Kevin Denee? "
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There was another Brother of Ryan and Kevin Denee that left RCG about Twelve years ago.
DeleteThese 14 could also be called his flying monkeys. It's a label that has gained popularity in recent times. They are the minions (children dressed as monkeys) of the Wicked Witch in the 1939 movie The Wizard of Oz.
ReplyDelete"On the lighter side you could say they are Dave’s quacks.
ReplyDeleteThey just go quack quack quack quack at the bosses words."
That makes them all Quackapractors
ReplyDeleteDave Pack's 14 nodding YES-MICE are a frightening example of what Dave turns men into.
This is not the way things are supposed to go or what men are supposed to end up being like.
What happened to Sam Baxter? Sometimes DCP doesn't include everyone in the conversations.
ReplyDeleteRemember when one of Dave's employees wrote to Dave's entire mailing list warning them what a fraud Dave Pack was? Pepperridge Farms remembers.
ReplyDeleteThis is a culture in which it's engrained in people that they are training to be kings, and rulers, and priests. Personally, I always thought that kind of sucked, aspiring rather to be just a regular salt of the earth type of guy who did a good job and got along with everyone. But, the model these guys are following involves being totally at one with the big kahuna, never questioning or second guessing (Satan's fault), just basically subverting their own God-given personalities and intellect to the whims of the guy in charge. In their culture, what they are doing is actually laudable. They think they are imitating Jesus' deference to Father God, somehow substituting Dave Pack into that equation. They see it as advanced training, experiencing a little bit of a foretaste of the Kingdom.
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ReplyDeleteExcluding Sam Baxter was probably an oversight. Last I heard, he was still there. Maybe Mr. McElroy is no longer part of the group due to health reasons. That would still be 14 for this list.
It is my understanding that Tim Willard and his wife left RCG yesterday
ReplyDeleteHow many of these 14 went to AC?
ReplyDeleteFrom "Old Neo's Book of Practical Millerites", third edition, pg. 952, from article titled "Fall Back and Regroup: The Holy Dance of Millerism"
ReplyDelete"Others expressed themselves similarly at first (refers to Miller's belief that judgement took place around the Day of Atonement or Feast of Tabernacles 1844 and the door was shut to any further salvation). But J. V. Himes, Miller’s most prominent colleague, and others held that since Christ had not come, the 2300-day prophetic period must not have ended in 1844; that it must extend to some other date in the future, and therefore that the fulfillment of the “midnight cry” of the parable of the virgins was also still future; and that the October 1844 movement (see Seventh-Month Movement) was a mistake, and was not a fulfillment of prophecy. By the spring of 1845 the main Millerite group, including Miller, had come to this view." (From the website EGW (Ellen G. White) Writings)
"The Holy Dance might possibly be a dinner dance." (Neo, ed.)
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ReplyDeleteFROM A RECENT ARTICLE ABOUT RUSSIA IN THE UKRAINE , that thoroughly describes Pack's Org and rulership...
>>> Its troops (members) are poorly trained and lack initiative. Its intelligence is flawed. Its equipment (doctrine) is fragile and poorly maintained. Its military (ministry) leaders lack the agility to adapt to changing conditions.
It seems that the corruption pervading Russian (Pack) society has infected its military (ministry) , leading to the erosion of standards and morale. This kind of decay is commonplace in authoritarian states where loyalty is valued over initiative and any kind of dissension is discouraged. It fosters a culture of mediocrity among warfighters (The Restored Church of God)
"Dr. Tim Raney is an accomplished heart Dr. From the cleveland clinic, Dr. Jaco Viljoen is a medical Dr. From South Africa"
ReplyDeleteWell then, this proves the dangers of thinking one is intelligent in all field outside their specialty. Something in both these Drs thinking and powers of observation is malfunctioning.
After a Google search, I see zero connection to Tim Ranney and the Cleveland Clinic. He appears to be a local family doctor in Wadsworth (or Phoenix) and not an accomplished heart surgeon at one of the worlds leading health institutions.
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Tim was never connected to Cleveland Clinic, nor was he an accomplished surgeon. He was a doctor's administrator, and oversaw operations in the medical field out west, before getting tricked into coming to RCG. He is now Dave's personal health advisor. He is skilled in PR and all the kinds of mind games one needs to play when they are in a higher rank in a COG. Tread carefully.
DeleteDr. Vilgoen is apparently a VETERNIARIAN in South Africa
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That's not him
DeleteTonto, probably you should try to verify information rather than spread misinformation. Dr. Viljoen is a medical doctor from South Africa.
ReplyDeleteTonto, probably you should try to verify information rather than spread misinformation. Dr. Viljoen is a medical doctor from South Africa. Perhaps even learn to spell veterinarian.
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ReplyDeleteYes, Ryan and Kevin Dinee (the proper spelling?) are brothers while Mark is the eldest. Also there was a sister. I know because I was like a nervous neophyte when I first came to church and they usually sat in front of me. They were kids of the local elder, Peter Dinee, who was a good man, who died early I'm told.
Ryan was the restless toddler whom dad had to take to the bathroom during services.
I see that he is still restless in Pack's compound.
It’s spelled Denee
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