My email box has been bombarded by the repugnant slop from the Philadelphia Church of God regarding the Uvalde, TX school massacre. I kept trying to figure out a way to highlight the repulsive things Gerald and Stephen Flurry have been saying until I saw this letter on ESN.
The COG has always given lip service when tragedy strikes. When you hear a COG minister or leader (like Bob Thiel) who claims they are praying for these hurting people, there is always lurking in the back of their minds their superiority over these people that are of the unwashed unconverted masses who do not know the truth. Such crap!
Who needs their hypocritical prayers?
Trumpet Blows Their Own Horn Regarding Current Sorrow of Mass Murders:
May 26, 2022
The carrion sniffing jackal, SF could not restrain himself from asserting his typical pathetic “my father told you so” take on the Uvalde, Texas mass murder before the victims’ bodies went completely cold.
Not much difference between the Trumpet‘s “tomorrow’s news today” and the bloodthirsty mainstream media’s vultures, spiritually.
Where is there any sincere mourning for these new murders in America except for the Trumpet‘s usual dramatized outrage, which only serves to put the fake church on an imaginary “moral high ground” and “spiritual” pedestal? Oh, but all those “carnal” people killed at the Texas school were not getting “God’s education,” so the PC[g]’s ministry can only allow themselves to demonstrate a minimal bit of “natural affection” towards the innocent victims, lest they may possibly be seen participating in the observances of “the world.”
In regards to prayers for the victims’ families, will the PC[g] ministers be quoting one of their favorites this coming weekend, “Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.” Jeremiah 7:16. Although they may encourage prayer to God for the blessing of their religious infomercials like the Key of David, and the Trumpet Daily, and for more money to mysteriously flow into “HQ.” The greedy guts are rumbling there, as the Trumpet radio so falsely declares, “We said it first!” Meanwhile, they look down upon slaughtered children and teachers.
These kinds of “newscasters” are more despicable than the communist left wing’s political buzzards now pushing for more of their kind of “gun control.” (Meaning: using unlawful guns and overreaching government agency weaponization to control the people, but not allowing the lawful people to control themselves nor the guns they own.)
The very same values that PC[g] ministers believe set them above the rest of humanity, within their own delusional estimation of having the most insightful “biblical” perspective on some of the most horrible news on earth, including school massacres, actually reveals that their self-exalted ministry exists at an even lower level than those “unconverted” or “carnal” people who can only seem to stir up “natural affection” and “maudlin” human emotion towards murder victims.
Strange how the Trumpet‘s “special take” on the news, which news, by the way, comes from other world news sources first, must be regarded as naturally superior to news outlets of “the world.” The Trumpet only blows their own horn, saying, “You’ll hear this nowhere else.” Even though the Trumpet Daily spends most of the hour quoting and reading articles first written by “unconverted” and “worldly educated” authors, and playing clips recorded by real people who arrived at the scene first, while they lounge far away in the clean green acres of OK. Oh, but, “We said it first!” That is the greater issue of the day to be excited over, than any true outrage or agonizing lamentation for murdered children and teachers.
Not much more remorse for the “church’s” own dying members either, but only joy over receiving another “estate” into their coffers. But more “precious” is the death of “saints” to the PC[g] (read the often misrepresented verse, Psalm 116:15), especially more valuable to the PCG[g] than the murder of the precious innocent children of “the world,” whom God so loves, too, more than the PC[g]’s ministry loves dead people’s money.
And God sees straight through to their hearts by their own reactions to the deaths of children and teachers, and the deaths of saints. God sees. And if that shameless cult does not believe God and Jesus see them, then they neither believe in God or Jesus.–Q. W.
The Church of God has always been the most uncompassionate church that I was ever part of. It takes so much delight in the suffering of others. They want people to suffer because it makes their prophecies true, at least in their eyes.
ReplyDeleteAnon 11:52 Yes, the Shadenfreude Church of God.
ReplyDeleteMaybe you need to live outside the USA to understand why the USA has such an enormous school massacre rate compared to EVERY other country in the world.
ReplyDeleteIt is very obvious to those outside the country, but not so obvious if you are living there.
Radicals have taken over both of the major political parties in the USA, and we now have reactive politics that make no sense at all, designed soley to get in the faces of the party on the other side of the aisle. This unfathomable tragedy involving an entire classroom of fourth graders and their teachers was totally predictable when Governor Abbott deliberately loosened the gun laws in Texas (and I am a pro Second Amendment, pro gun individual!) way beyond common sense. The rhetoric coming from the ultra-right has encouraged people with even worse views to come out of the woodwork and to make calloused, inflammatory, and hurtful statements. The Flurrys are out of sync with the majority of Christians, but they are not all that different from a former president who lampooned the officials in Democrat states when there were riots, or killings. Not out of sync with Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, or President Trump, other symptomatic people of an extremist, very sick world.
ReplyDeleteI am not familiar with this group, nor have I ever read any of their literature. But the post does bring up issues that I believe burden our time and place in history. Drawing on the lengthy experience I had as an Armstrongist, I believe that many Armsrongists incorrectly assess events like the massacre of children at Uvalde. They see all this destruction and feel that it is a sign that The Wonderful World Tomorrow is just over the horizon. Over time and in an odd way, one can come deplore such events in actuality but appreciate these events as a prophetic abstraction. It is the attitude of "I know this event is horrific, but it means Christ will be here soon! For now is our salvation nearer than when we believed..." It is a strange composite attitude.
ReplyDeleteI believe this attitude rests on the mistaken foundation that the Kingdom of God is not here now but will come when Jesus returns. For now we have this present evil world to deal with. But the church consists of people who have been touched by the Kingdom through its King, Jesus. It is a case of already but not yet. The church not only witnesses to the Kingdom but in a preliminary way implements the Kingdom. HWA began to realize this and started referring to the church as "the Kingdom of God in embryo" in the years before he died. I do not believe one can equate the church to the Kingdom but there is commonality between the two. The church cannot just condemn and wait but must act to allay.
Political sidebar: I have seen many people, usually political moderates, on TV discuss the Uvalde event and confess puzzlement as to why the political right stands firmly against gun control. Usually, the respondents argue personal liberties. It has little to do with that. There is a direct connection between White Nationalism, the shrinking White population and the opposition to gun control. A few commenters recognize this but not many.
Stevie needs to be abandoned at the airport, or bus station.
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ReplyDeleteMaybe you need to live outside the USA to understand why the USA has such an enormous school massacre rate compared to EVERY other country in the world.
It is very obvious to those outside the country, but not so obvious if you are living there.
Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:10:00 AM PDT
MY COMMENT: Could you clue us in, pray tell
Anon 6:10 said ‘Could you clue us in, pray tell’.
ReplyDeleteIts not that I have any special insight, its more when you are living in a particular situation with particular problems, its often difficult to see solutions, when it is fairly clear to those outside the particular situation what should be done to help.
Maybe you should check Neo’s final paragraph, he seems to have a clue.
But a few thoughts anyway:-
Estimated number of guns per 100 residents. USA is highest country in the entire world, with 120 per 100.
Second place, (that is the second highest number of guns per person) comes with that well know haven of peace, Yemen with 52 guns per 100 people.
There are more kids shot in school in the USA than the rest of the world put together. (Please check yourself to verify my statement). Why is this?
The shooter in Texas legally bought his gun at aged 18 – yet he would have to wait another three years to legally go in a bar and buy an alcoholic drink.
In most countries in the western world if you want to posses a firearm, it’s not really a problem – just a few formalities to go through, and a few requirements as to where you keep it, and where you use it. No problem for an honest citizen.
Does anyone really think that arming the teachers, so they can have a shootout with the shooters, is actually a solution?
Bill Clinton had instituted proper controls on assault weapons. The proliferation of these weapons began when W reversed the Clinton policies. The types of people who believe that citizens need the most powerful types of weapons available to fight a tyrannical government were brought in under the Republican umbrella by Donald Trump. They tend to believe that such a government would be leftists. And they wrap themselves falsely in the Constitution and claim to be the true patriots. They even embraced Kyle Rittenhouse for his efforts in making sport of rioters.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with America isn’t the Second Amendment. It’s the character of the people that’s the problem. The Constitution and Bill of Rights maximized liberty, but without inner morality to supplement it leading to proper self-government then you’ll get people choosing to misuse liberty as license for immorality and a push in turn towards ever bigger centralized government. And POTUS is a hypocrite. He claims to be Christian like Pelosi and condemns the unjust murder of innocent children in school, but sanctions the unjust murder of innocent children in the womb. The cult-ure of death and violence in America demonstrates all too well the real schizophrenic deity of the nation and the nation’s leaders.
ReplyDeleteAnon, Friday, May 27, 2022 at 11:41:00 PM PDT, wrote:
ReplyDelete"...The problem with America ... It’s the character of the people that’s the problem.......The cult-ure of death and violence in America demonstrates all too well the real schizophrenic deity of the nation and the nation’s leaders.
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To blame/judge the people, as Doug Winnail usually does with his Friday smackdown messages to his followers, is so easy to do. Blaming/judging one another has been established since "back in the day" of the Garden of Eden.
It's not solely an American thing; it is worldwide, universal, and one way or another to one degree or another we are all learning to hate evil, which comes in many forms.
We're told: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,..."
Well, is there any wrestling involved? Yes, "...but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]." Eph 6:12
You mention some "schizophrenic deity." Is disobedience involved? Is pride involved?
"Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:" Eph 2:2
Yes, even those believing they are filled with God's Spirit: disobedience continues to exist within their lives whether they admit it to themselves or not.
That deity is a king, a king of kings (leaders worldwide); however, most don't know it:
"He beholdeth all high [things]: he [is] a king over all the children of pride." Job 41:34
This deity, this king, is unique: "Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear." Job 41:33 This perfectly evil thing will even stand up to the One who made him; that is fearless! Stupid, but fearless!
This world, for the most part is blind, to this being and what it and his other angels do; it knows how to deceive and hide itself:
Psalm 10:8 "He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor.
:9 He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net.
:10 He croucheth, [and] humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones."
Who is innocent? An example is the "murder of innocent children," whether in the womb or outside, whether in America or in Africa, or Sweden (pick a Country).
The people have been deceived and blinded, and Satan even thinks God isn't aware of his evil works among human beings on earth worldwide:
:11 "He hath said in his heart, God hath forgotten: he hideth his face; he will never see [it]."
Will God forget? Has God forgotten? No, He is working out His Plan (Psalm 74:12) to save all humanity and subsequently destroy Satan and his angels. God does have His vengeance, and His timing. These evils are not forever. As god of this present evil world Satan believes he will be immune forever, but time will tell. In the meantime he seems to be so successful pitting man against God, and pitting man against man: flesh and blood wrestling flesh and blood, when the real battle is elsewhere within a creation made subject to vanity.
Anon, FWIIW, the following verses elaborate some on your very last sentence:
Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might DESTROY him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage."
Is Satan a respecter of persons, and does that vile, evil, being hate America citizens more than any other nation's inhabitants on earth?
Time will tell...
John
Not interested in the war of slogans that always erupts when an event like this occurs. But in regards to PCGs commentary, no surprise. The tendency among people who claim to adhere to high standards of morality is to put themselves on a pedestal and wave nagging fingers at everyone else, something the Armstrongite groups have always loved doing. Ultimately, it is self-righteousness and nothing more. But it also serves to galvanize the members around the group leadership and keep them looking toward "headquarters" for guidance about everything. It is not a phenomenon unique to the COGs but they are quite prone to it.
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