Well, it is Friday and time for the regular Friday Night Smack Down on things LCG members are not doing well. Never fear though, the ministry do all of the things listed below and so should the members. It is so refreshing to know that the ministry of the LCG now deals with members gently, respectfully and patiently, and most of all, are willing to listen. Hilarious!!
Skills that Promote Teamwork: Members of successful organizations develop the necessary skills to function together smoothly to accomplish goals. These skills can be identified and learned. Christians must develop the same skills—and many are clearly biblical. Effective team members are sensitive to the feelings of others and they avoid offending others (Matthew 18:7). They are forgiving and ignore insults because they are not easily offended (Proverbs 10:12; 17:9). Team players do not sit in judgment of other people—they make sure their own lives are in order (Matthew 7:1–5; James 4:11). Team players are peacemakers who promote harmony and work smoothly with others (James 3:17–18). They deal with people gently, respectfully, and patiently, and are willing to listen (James 1:19). Effective team players appreciate the team is made up of individuals with different talents and abilities who make unique contributions to the team (1 Corinthians 12:12) and that the main priority is to work together to achieve a goal while showing love to one another (Ephesians 4:16). Good team players have learned to love others—just as Jesus instructed.
Have a profitable Sabbath, Douglas S. Winnail
‘Effective team players appreciate the team is made up of individuals with different talents and abilities, who make unique contributions to the team…..’
ReplyDeleteBut those differences does not mean one can question our theology or doctrines or cast doubt on the effectiveness of our ‘message’.
In other words those differences and talents that submit themselves to the authority of the ministry are acceptable only.
And that is UNITY, Armstrong style.
Be forgiving? How about telling members not to sin?
ReplyDeleteIgnore insults? How about teaching members to not insult others?
He goes on and on with similar, such as peacemaker, be patient, gentle, blah, blah, blah. As a former church member, I know from personal experience that this means that members are expected to tolerate all manner of abuse by church bullies. Instead of the bullies repenting, the responsible are
suppose to "repent" by allowing themselves to be treated as door mats. This is common in contemporary Christianity. It's what brings in members and their wallets. Another proof of this is when I stumbled upon former members on the street. They were angelic in the short conversation, but these same members were habitually abusive at church. They knew that church was a holiday for abusers.
Doug is back to reruns.
ReplyDeleteI guess some decision didn't go his way, so it's time to complain about the team.
This reminds me of a scene in The Untouchables (1987) where Al Capone stressed teamwork. For a non-team player, Capone's method of smack down was with a baseball bat...
ReplyDelete"Team Players" in the context of the Churches of God means compliance to Hebrews 13:
ReplyDelete17 "Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls"
In hindsight and life experience, it is best to watch out for one's own soul and tell others to mind their own business.
In COG parlance, "Team Member" means becoming a "Yellow Pencil".
ReplyDeletePray, Pay, Stay and Obey!
Welcome to Armstrongism. A place in which being a team player means constantly "taking one for the team".
ReplyDelete7:42 "Welcome to Armstrongism. A place in which being a team player means constantly "taking one for the team"."
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately in Armstrongism that is usually done without lube.
I mean, he's right. But it does not reflect my experience in LCG at all.
ReplyDeleteTEAMS and TEAM PLAYERS and GETTING “PLAYED”
ReplyDeleteA VERY IMPORTANT POINT is to make sure that you are NOT on one of the Wrong Teams that are playing one of the wrong games by the wrong rules.
You certainly do not want to worse-than-waste your entire life only to find out in the end that you were actually on Satan's Team.
Remember how the Devil's apostate Joseph Tkach, Jr. on the Apostate Team sold the copyrights to some of Herbert W. Armstrong's writings to Satan's false prophet Gerald Flurry on the False Prophet Team so that Gerald could edit and change them while pretending to be faithfully holding on to them. The apostate Joey, Jr. simply threw out virtually everything that HWA had taught while that false prophet Gerald suppressed the gospel, wrecked families, and basically did the opposite of everything that HWA had taught. Talk about two wicked scoundrels working together as a team!!!
Look what happened when the highly competitive, Olympic-type, Pack Team competed against the amateur Weinland Team of prophetic fantasy fiction lovers to try to become even more prediction addicted than they were. It was no contest. The Pack Team obviously “won” that one. It was a sad victory indeed, or maybe really no victory at all.
Some people have been wasting their lives and talents on Roderick C. Meredith's relatively small, non-nation-shaking, Little League Team that was always in such juvenile competition against Herbert W. Armstrong to such an extent that RCM even messed up something as basic as the gospel message in trying to outdo HWA. RCM was such a loser, and then he died.
Some godless types were into playing worldly games and thinking that it was such a clever thing to do, so they hung out with the so-called United Team, but their hearts were obviously never really into making it work out right. The so-called United Team keeps on splitting up.
A lot of people who joined the various Wrong Teams really got “played.”
The secret message for the day: Be wise! Apostatize!
ReplyDeleteAlas, Dr. Winnail is no Zig Ziglar!
Disgraceful and cowardly blog!
ReplyDeleteUntil when do you harass the church like this?
You are a coward and ungrateful, you must assume it, who bothers you so that you feel the right to do it?
These messages are true teachings that can be useful to anyone, they help us to remember how we should act, not because we are acting badly at the moment.
Outside of COGdom, Doug Winnail would never be considered an effective, caring, or helpful pastor.
ReplyDeleteEven inside COGdom, Doug is not typically known to be insightful, motivating, or inspiring.
Doug, in his latest dull-as-Doug piece, doesn’t care enough for his readers to offer anything substantial.
Doug is not a coach for the team who provides how-to wisdom or a blueprint for what the team is trying to accomplish.
Doug is not a cheerleader rallying the team to keep their spirits high and focused on the prize.
In this piece, Doug tells his people that there are many things they must do but gives no direction on how.
Although Doug always closes with wishes for a profitable Sabbath, he never shepherds his people into a Sabbath Rest, where they can rest from their works and be refreshed and righteous by the righteous works of Jesus.
Doug leaves the readers with tasks to do, do, do – but, he never tells them that they already are more than conquerors, because of the love of God, from which nothing can separate them from (Romans 8:37-39).
Doug does not encourage his people to approach the throne of God’s grace to receive the grace and mercy sufficient for all their needs (Hebrews 4:14-16), because Doug wants them struggling in the dirt, trying to produce works that please the ministry.
Hapless Doug and the loveless, lube-less, graceless LCG prefer to perpetuate fear, lack, uncertainty, and self-striving rather than lead people to Jesus and the grace of God.
Doug wrote: "...Team players do not sit in judgment of other people—they make sure their own lives are in order..."
ReplyDeleteIf Doug really believed that, then why does he continue to sit in judgment of the living group members and do Friday smack-downs and with, of all things, repeat reruns? What kind of a team player is Doug, really?
Trooisto observed Doug this way: "...In this piece, Doug tells his people that there are many things they must do but gives no direction on how..."
Doug is unable to give any worthwhile direction, and to tell his members to "love one another?" Isn't love an important fruit of God's Spirit that God would develop within those who possessed that Spirit?
I suspect Doug still believes that one can USE God's Spirit, which is impossible to do. God controls His Spirit and does with is as He wills.
Ever since the death of Herbert W. Armstrong, virtually all of the man-made organizations, associations, groups, splinters, etc., seem to be in a stagnant state. Since 1986 Doug has believed that Jesus Christ would return to earth very soon to establish God's Kingdom and reign on earth for 1,000 years. The Bible didn't say that.
Doug is a babe. What's that?
Heb 5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe."
A babe needs to repeat those reruns! Where is the strong meat?
Doug has to continue to preach fear religion to his members and hold salvation over their heads: that they could lose their salvation for not doing enough works and/or meeting up to Doug's standards, requirements, prerequisites as some "team player" for salvation.
As has been noted by others on this blog, Doug cannot preach John 3:16-17; 2 Cor 5:19, grace, salvation, being an overcomer, a conquerer, because that would be to preach strong meat and a babe cannot do that.
KoKe, defending babe Doug, wrote: "...These messages are true teachings that can be useful to anyone, they help us to remember how we should act, not because we are acting badly at the moment..."
Those messages are nothing but reruns and repeats, and do not explain how a person should repent/change, and they certainly give no edification or encouragement to anyone regarding God's grace towards salvation, except to quote the words of others.
When will Doug cease writing like a babe and write like one that is of full age (Heb 4:14?
Time will tell...
Oh, the apostle Paul also wrote about Jesus: "Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing." Hebrews 5:11, 13
Huh? Paul had a lot more to say about Jesus Christ and God's Plan of Salvation to the Church at Rome, but at that time all they could handle was "milk of the word."
Is Doug hard of hearing, too?
Time will tell...
John
DennisCDiehl, Friday, July 15, 2022 at 6:09:00 AM PDT, wrote:
ReplyDelete"Team Players" in the context of the Churches of God means compliance to Hebrews 13:
17 "Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls"
In hindsight and life experience, it is best to watch out for one's own soul and tell others to mind their own business.
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Good sound advice, Dennis, especially if one has reason to believe that Doug Winnail, and other hirelings of the former WCG, are part of a counterfeit of God's Church described in the Bible: something established man-made, perhaps Satan-inspired, organization, association or group professing to be God's Church.
My Authorized KJV of the Bible for that phrase "have the rule over" in the margin actually says the phrase would be best rendered as: "are the guides."
A transcript of an interesting sermon given 17 May 1997, in part, explained the following about that phrase with the Apostle Paul:
"...talking about himself and he’s talking about the other Apostles and the other ministers that are in the Church. He says:
Hebrews 13:7 “Remember them which have the rule over you,...”
Now, when you’ve heard this in the past you heard: “Remember them that HAVE RULE OVER you,” because they did! They took fear religion and they pushed it down your throat and they hung salvation over you, didn’t they?
Well, when you look up the words here that say: have the rule over you, it says: “are the guides.” They are guides! Yes, they’re ministers. Yes, they’ve been appointed to do that, but they are there to help guide you, guide you with this Plan of Salvation, to understand it, to teach it, so you can understand it and that you too can have that joy. That all comes through all of us through the Holy Spirit! It says they have guides. There are guides over you…
“...who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.”
And conduct!
Now they should be led by God’s Holy Spirit and you should see that, because Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.
In verse 17, here again, it says:
Hebrews 13:17 “Obey them that have the rule over you,...”
Again, it’s a guide! Work with them. Be with them. We’re all in this thing together. Yes, they have a position. God is inspiring them to do that job, but we’re brothers. They’re just trying to help guide you to the understanding of this salvation which is so great:
“...and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,...”
Now, they don’t have to give account, but they do watch and they do care about the brethren. When you hurt, they hurt. We all hurt. We all hurt together, and that’s the way it’s supposed to be:
“...that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.”
You know; don’t cause all kinds of grief either. If you have problems, they try to help and they can try to direct you into God’s encouragement. So, when one hurts, we all hurt. We’re all in this together, but God does set those different guides: as we just went through in a two-part sermon on God’s Government! He does establish that and it is a very important part of His Church, but it’s to be done in love and mercy and joy: not with trying to RULE OVER somebody. That’s ridiculous!..."
When will those who "lord it over" others repent and become the guides God inspired Paul to write about?
Time will tell...
John
WELL SAID Tonto!!
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