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Saturday, November 19, 2022

Dave Pack Delivers Sermon 405 - Says Sermon Series Is Over - There Will Be No 406



Final Part 405


 

Do not let the title fool you. There is no way on God’s green earth that “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 405)” is the end of the Series despite what David C. Pack may claim.

 

He urgently delivered this Livestream message on Wednesday, November 16, to the members of The Restored Church of God just in time for…nothing. Nothing has happened. Nothing is going to happen. Nothing.

 

 

For those in the audience interested in what Dave is trying to teach, a few summary snippets collected together might be helpful. But be warned, it may still give you a migraine.

 

As with all prophetic doctrines coming out of RCG, write it in pencil and have an eraser handy.

 

@ 00:03 We have some very dramatic things to learn today…we opened yesterday with clarifying “years.” Then we explained “the month” that takes you to the year. Then we raced through some verses about Elijah. We proved the Kingdom of Israel…all saints are here when it arrives.

 

@ 00:31 We began to prove that every person who ever lived is here for the Kingdom of Israel.

 

Even when I try to follow Dave, I get lost in the ever-changing time periods. Ten days. Three and a half days. Five days. Jerusalem time. Our time. He mercifully summarized the current state of things.

 

@ 1:34:57 The first Kingdom [of Israel] begins on a Thursday night [Thanksgiving]. The Kingdom of God begins on Monday morning. [Kislev 5 begins in Jerusalem at sunset, which is 9:35 a.m. EDT on Monday, November 28.]

 

@ 1:35:12 The seven-year Kingdom begins on Saturday night and Sunday [Christmas Eve].

 

The Day of the Lord begins on Christmas Eve. Remember the Jingle Bells Lake of Fire?

 

The wise shall understand, but the wicked shall not understand, I suppose.

 

Dave threw this little button in after further explanation to pour salt on the wound.

 

@ 1:36:28 Incredibly complicated, but in many ways, very simple. Elijah first. Then, a month in two phases. Elijah for days. Then, a month before the Day of the Lord. That’s the plan of God. And everything after that, it’s seven years and a thousand and eons to follow.

 

He mentioned himself in all these recaps, but not Jesus Christ. It is easy to overlook the Son of God when you are the one who will have to speak to 100 billion people within the next few days. With Dave doing so much, what is left for Jesus Christ to do, anyway?

 

@ 1:38:05 It makes perfect sense. For the first time in my 56 ½ years of studying prophecy, it all makes perfect sense. Simple.

 

 

Within that plan of God, there is a not-really-five-day period of big things that takes place before Thanksgiving.

 

@ 11:47 We're gonna have to look seriously, expansively, at what happens between now and Thanksgiving.

 

This is the “nothing” phase of Dave’s god’s plan mentioned earlier.

 

This Revelation 10:7 fulfillment already failed before I was able to transcribe it for the article. Even after opening my patio door, I cannot hear Dave shouting here in Wadsworth. Unless he is the source of that echoing "Dooh!" bouncing off the trees.

 

@ 49:38 And Satan rears back, and he [Dave, the Seventh Angel] starts working with the Laodicean era if that's what happens. If we can prove that, and I'm gonna hafta look at it, then "the days of his voice" would be five. They would be from sundown on the Sabbath in Jerusalem. Five more days until the month begins.

 

That was 9:38 a.m. EDT this morning.

 

Dooh!

    D-o-o-h!

        D--o--o--h!

            D---o---o---h!

                D----o----o----h!

 

Being one to often get in front of his own failure so he can be "right" about being wrong, Dave posted this in Member Services last night.

 

Prophecy Update – November 18, 2022

 

As stated in Part 405, the announcement period before the first Kingdom could be short.

 

God calls it: (1) “days,” (2) “about to sound,” (3) “he rushes/runs,” (4) “before (in the face of) Christ’s arrival,” and (5) only “enkindles” an old fire.

 

Mr. Pack repeated, “the shorter, the better”­! However long we wait, be ready!

 

The five-day period Dave suggested is already blown up. This means a day-by-day countdown to another failure, with a more significant failure after pumpkin pie on Thursday. Think of each day as a “Dave Mini-Failure” before the “Grand Poobah Failure” on Thanksgiving night.

 

Once the Black Friday sales are over, so is Dave’s hope for a Lake of Fire Sale on Christmas Eve.

 

Elijah is going to have to be put back in the box in order to get a refund. If you saved your receipt, Kohl’s has a “hassle-free” return policy.

 

The members of RCG are continuously in a perpetual state of “ready.” Perhaps that statement is for the doubters and fakers who have not yet signed on because the wait-and-see approach has been wildly successful thus far for 2022.

 

 

The words of David C. Pack rear up and bite David C. Pack on the backside. The sharpest tools in the shed to expose the fraudulent teachings of David C. Pack are the very words of David C. Pack. The man is his own worst enemy.

 

Combining his voice and a clock creates a powerful explosive able to break down any biblical wall he constructs. Nitroglycerin, TNT, and C4 have nothing on Dave defeating Dave.

 

Try this underhand pitch and blast it beyond the fence of center field.

 

@ 1:04:34 Five days is a lot shorter than six months. And I’m pretty sure I can prove it’s five days. If it’s not, then I don’t have any idea.

 

David C. Pack does not have any idea. A moment of sanity wafted into the Main Hall at Headquarters by accident. It was quickly shooed away by the ushers.

 

He later eroded his stance by saying he was not “absolutely certain” about it being five days. Take that for what it is worth.

 

If we teleport into the future, here is another foot-in-mouth quote you can pin to the fridge.

 

@ 1:34:37 Now, if it is not this Sabbath, I don’t understand Luke 12, Matthew 24. I don’t understand the math. And I don’t understand Zechariah or Habakkuk chapter 2. I don’t understand how all of those verses point to he's gonna speak on the Sabbath, but it isn't.

 

I fully agree with him this time. David C. Pack does not understand.

 

 

In an extraordinary moment of blindness, David C. Pack teaches about “That Prophet” in Deuteronomy 18. He reads the same verses that brethren inside The Restored Church of God get into trouble for bringing up to their local minister.

 

There is a blend of Deuteronomy 18 and Zechariah 11 in his private interpretation of the Scripture, which makes for a genuine four-alarm irony alert. 


@ 44:08 “But, the prophet which shall presume to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.” So, it goes on and says, when he rises, it sorta suggests, initially, like Moses, maybe three people who die at one month, as opposed to in one month, which would mean Jannes and Jambres and Judas would not be those three.

 

As he reads, he injects words and ideas that are not in the text because no matter what words are actually in the Bible, he feels free to add to them at will. Shamelessly right in front of open eyes. Perhaps dozing eyes.

 

From the beginning of my Christian walk, I proved that Jesus Christ is That Prophet. Dave believes it is himself when he is “raised” as Elijah. The facts he reveals point to Jesus Christ and not himself. This is by accident.

 

@ 45:01 Moses got serious pushback for quite a long time.

 

Who received more “serious pushback” than Jesus Christ? From the Pharisees. The High Priest. Satan. Judas. The Romans. Even Peter and Thomas provided a little pushback.

 

@ 45:07 And it looks like, if this man is raised like Moses, then people are gonna ask in verse 21, "and if you say in your heart, how shall we know the word which the Lord has spoken?” It’s what comes to pass and what doesn’t.

 

Dave opens the garage door, so we can all drive through. Now, a brief summary of what did not come to pass just part of this year per David C. Pack:

 

Tammuz 1  •  Tammuz 15  •  Tammuz 20  •  Av 1  •  Av 2  •  Av 3  •  Av 4  •  Av 5

Av 7  •  Av 10  •  Av 15  •  Av 20  •  Av 30  •  Elul 1  •  Elul 15  •  Elul 20  •  Elul 21

Elul 22  •  Elul 23  •  Elul 24  •  Elul 26-ish  •  Trumpets/Tishrei 1  •  Tishrei 12

Tishrei 13  •  Tishrei 15  •  Tishrei 19  •  Tishrei 20  •  Tishrei 24  •  Cheshvan 1

 

David C. Pack is a false prophet. He is a false apostle. He is a biblical fraud. The King Saul of our age. A Simon Magus for the Church of God. A man whose promises mean nothing. Regard him accordingly.

 

Dave reads the words of Deuteronomy 18 but cannot connect the obvious before his face. That is blindness that should put the fear of God in all of us.

 

@ 45:22 So, it’s like Moses…rises in an environment where it idn’t a kingdom yet.

 

Do you mean like in Judea when the Romans were in control? Dave speaks these points as if they “suggest” a future fulfillment with him, but all they do is reinforce that he took away a title from Jesus Christ and placed it upon himself.

 

 

For those wondering if Dave ever says he is in the Bible, this one is for you.

 

@ 46:40 Before Christ comes, in Isaiah 11 and verse 1, it says, "a twig goes forth”…And he’s descended from David. Now, is that me just shuttling down the street until the Series is over? Or does a twig “go forth?”

 

Yes, Dave is the twig. But as Elijah, he is also a type of John the Baptist. He covers that pretty intensely again. He speaks of the future fulfillment of this figure upon the world scene.

 

@ 1:07:58 Anybody think there’s any chance that John the Baptist…the modern version…will be called the Antichrist? Curiously, he’ll be called the Antichrist right before that man comes. And he’s gonna say, “No, I’m not.” And we’re gonna find out who the liars are and who’s not.

 

We already have a pretty good idea of who the liars are today. By their fruits, you shall know them. A tree is known by its fruit. The light shining upon the fountain of bitter water is well-exposed.

 

@ 1:13:22 “The word or utterance of God came to John, the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.” So, John received a direct word from God. I’m all ears as I read all of this.

 

This is how very different David C. Pack is from John the Baptist. Dave has received no utterance from God or an angel. He has never heard a voice or received a vision that aligns with the Bible pattern. And yet, he persists as one who thinks he is throughout your Bible.

 

No news is good news here, I suppose.

 

@ 1:16:32 So, every evidence would be that when this man [Dave] is called to God's foot, God is gonna talk to him directly and he’s gonna use a group called The Last. Well, I knew who they are.

 

And there it is. Dave is alerting the audience he is preparing to receive an utterance from God. When he hears voices, it will be a whole new ballgame, folks. If Dave starts doing miracles beyond curing a ham or turning Coke into Pepsi, know that time is short. Especially for Dennis and me.

 

The Bible will come to life in a way we have never experienced before. But not in the way Dave teaches it. Think upon his blindness to Deuteronomy 18.

 

 

Just as the summation of the Neo-Gospel was spliced together to explain the current narrative (sans Tammuz Cooking Table), here is how convinced Dave is that the seven-year Series is now over.

 

@ 00:52 The Series will be over. So, because of timing, I think we all know that this could readily be called “Final Part Number 405.”

 

@ 47:17 The Series is done. I’m just leading and building. The Series is over.

 

@ 47:33 There is no 406. There’s nothing else to talk about.

 

Professor Peabody dropped off his sermon notes to remind us why this sounds so familiar.

 

Part 12 – January 23, 2016

@ 00:42 …and I wanna make a kind of a conclusive statement. At some point, I’m gonna tell you that’s the end of the last part of the Series. A few weeks from now, I’m gonna say that…but at some point, there are no more sermons.

 

Part 200 – August 27, 2019

@ 00:02 Well, brethren, over the last nearly four years, as I introduce Part 200 that ends the Series, we’ve seen various present truths…

 

Part 284 – January 28, 2021

@ 1:07:39 So there are no more messages. I can almost make you a solemn promise.

 

David C. Pack is not a man of his word. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this. Brad? Ed? Ken? I hear crickets coming from you guys over there. Dr. Ranney has my number. Please fact-check me.

 

@ 36:26 I couldn’t have dreamed that the Mystery of God would end with such extraordinary knowledge. I could not have dreamed it. Not for seven years. What a God we serve.

 

Yeah. Just not the True God. Not the God of the Bible. Not the real Father and not the true Jesus Christ. But that is only a minor detail.

 

Nothing will happen this weekend. Nothing will happen on Thanksgiving. Nothing will happen on Christmas because God is not guiding David C. Pack to teach this nonsense.

 

What will happen is more excuses and more clarifications.

 

God will fulfill His word in His own time. But not as David C. Pack teaches.

 

Do not let the title fool you. This is not the final part.


Marc Cebrian

See: Final Part 405

11 comments:

  1. Yes but maybe he could start a New series and call it kismet. You know kinda like back to the future. Pack can be Doc, Marty, Biff, Clara, and a whole cast of other characters fulfilling prophecy that has already happened but not yet. The audience will eat it up, after all they have a part in supporting this awesome "work"!

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  2. Sad this is even taking place.

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  3. "What Is Religious Delusion?

    Delusions are basically assumptions of something that is actually not present at all. Delusions are believing in the presence of something that does not exist. It is a mental health condition where your brain is playing games with you.

    Religious delusion is when you are blinded by your faith. You begin to believe in a supernatural presence around you and you do as directed by that power. Unfortunately, it is all fiction created by your own mind.

    Religious delusion is holding firm beliefs which are based on false understanding and assumptions.

    Symptoms Of Religious Delusion
    Religious Delusions do not have a long list of symptoms, in fact it is very easily identifiable. Delusions that are inclined towards false religious beliefs. The theme of all delusional things is based on religious activity.

    People with religious delusions will always claim that they are doing what the lord is telling them to do...

    Their false belief in their fictional reality is so strong that they get very offensive when someone talks otherwise or tries to free them of their delusions.

    According to various studies, people with different psychotic disorders show increased religious activities. It is said that patients use faith and religious activities as a coping mechanism. Only those who are delusional have a negative impact on religious activities.

    Research suggests the people with religious delusion have an adverse effect on their pre-existing psychosis. It will worsen your condition and make it last longer with very poor functionality.

    Religious delusions are having firm false beliefs which can lead to or be because of psychosis. Profession help is required to treat religious delusions. Anyone can get religiously delusional but it is seen more in already religious people.

    It is indeed difficult for mental health professionals to differentiate between casually religious people and religiously delusional people. The family and friends of the patients can be very helpful in identifying the symptoms."

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  4. When Jesus gave us the Sermon on the Mount, did he give the Sermon in 405 parts spanning multiple years? Didn't Paul write in 1 Corinthians 11:1 "Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ"? Does Dave Pack follow the example of Jesus Christ?

    I don't know who is worse - Dave Pack or Gerald Waterhouse? Both have/had diarrhea of the mouth. Common sense should tell RCG members that a 405-part sermon is not consistent with the simplicity of Jesus Christ, nor does it follow His example.

    Richard

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  5. Pack needs to mellow out, smoke some MaryJane and go straight to sermon 420!

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  6. Well, he's right up to date with the latest trends. We live in very gullible times when people believe in and become hysterical over an imaginary Satanic, pedophile cabal that is allegedly ruling the world.

    I don't believe that RCG members pay any more attention to "fact checking" than do their counterparts in national politics. In fact, as has been pointed out, some of the other ACOGs are cross-polinating, and believing not only traditional Armstrong-approved conspiracy theories, but also the ones from the Q-anon nation.

    There's not a lot that we can do aside from hanging the facts out there so that they are available for those who might be helped. Hopefully, time and events will make those facts believable to greater numbers of people

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  7. Some people say that Dave Pack's endless noise will not end well. Thus far, that has been the problem. Dave's noise shows no signs of ever ending.

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  8. Moses was considered incomparably meek. As was Christ. Meekness is described as, "Controlled strength putting everything in the hands of God. It's founded on trust of the Lord, and it always denies self. It grows alongside humility and wisdom in that it seeks another person’s interest at the expense of its own, and it’s pure, peaceable, gentle, and open to reason."

    Does this sound like Dave?

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  9. Do'h! 406 is coming; it's in the Bible: 400 Gen 15:13 + 6 various verses = 406.

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  10. Move over, Dave. And, Beto Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland, and all you other Church of God prognosticators. Your peer has emerged, someone who is doing work of equal value to your own. Eno Alaric claims to be a time traveller who know the future. He has forecast that 4 major world events will happen in December. I for one will be taking what Eno has said every bit as seriously as if he were from the wacky world of Armstrongism. In other words, it is pure, demented garbage with no chance of being real.

    Welcome to the jungle, Eno! You should call the rest of the boys to see if they'll let you in on the big Winter family flag football game up at Bob Thiel's.

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  11. His eyes are devils. His a silly old man.

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