Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Saturday, February 25, 2023

Crackpot Prophet Says COG's Should NOT Be Independent

 

Never one to fully engage his brain when he speaks, the Great Bwana to Africa and 150 Caucasians, our illustrious and divinely appointed COG leader, announced his latest sermon today. As usual his ADD is bouncing all over the place as he "preaches" a myriad of topics he believes are necessary for a sermon. For someone who claims to be the most perfect COG leader in human history, it is quite evident he failed Spokesman Club, and one of the reasons no Church of God ever ordained him.

Bloviating about his latest sermon he had embedded in the middle of his list of topics this: 

"...as aspects of church governance and why Christians should not be “independent."

Like I said above, Bob Thiel never fully engages his brain when he speaks. Here he is as a self-appointed Church of God leader, a bitter angry little man who got his delicate feelings hurt when Rod Meredith and the hierarchy of the Living Church of God refused to follow his demands to change their teachings to what he had determined was correct, as the very example of an independent COG. He is independent and totally alone because no COG in the Armstrongite movement will identify or associate themselves with him.  After years of smearing them all wrong, why should they?

Unable to have an original thought pop into his head, he has to continue to use Herbert Armstrong as his source material even though that material has been proven heretical for decades now. That source material happens to be the junk theology on church governance where COG leaders are at the top and sheeple at the bottom bowing in subservience to the divinely self-appointed leadership. After all. in COGland the divine plan of salvation revolves around church governance and fealty to the leadership.

Jesus never had any intention for his followers to be ruled over by these crackpot COG leaders. None of them, including their government structure, has anything to do with being a follower of Christ or with the plan of salvation.


Ephesians 3-4: Godhead, Immortality, Your Purpose
This is the second part of a three part sermon covering the Apostle Paul’s epistle/letter to the Ephesians. In it, Dr. Thiel goes over each verse in the third and fourth chapters of Ephesians–he also includes a lot of related commentary from the late Herbert W. Armstrong of the old Radio/Worldwide Church of God. The sermon goes over several mysteries as well as the restoration of the truth about what God’s purpose is for each human being who will accept God’s ways. God’s plan to offer salvation to all that ever lived was discussed as well as aspects of church governance and why Christians should not be “independent.” Some problems with the false ‘Holy Saturday’ doctrine are mentioned. Tests, trials, faith, and tribulations are mentioned. Discussions of aspects of the Godhead, along with some comments on early church history are also included.

6 comments:

  1. I'm sorry, I couldn't get past the intro where he called himself "Doctor" - "DOCTOR"? where was this doctorate issued? and is it recognized in the US?

    Ever since Gavin Rumney's investigation into this subterfuge, I can't contain my outrage over this blatant flatulent-fraudulence!

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  2. The PhD that suffixes his name is genuine, but it's for Nutrition, nothing Biblical. The questioned and not displayed ThD in church history is apparently from India.

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  3. If Bob supposes that were there no competion he would succeed, he supposes amiss. Even if those with whom the Armstrong tenets resonate had no other resource, they would not be flocking to Bob. Others with similar suppositions, such as Gerald Flurry and David Pack, despite their skill level which is superior to that of Beto, are still presiding over small, diminishing splinter groups, and age is now about to finish what truth and deprivation started the minute they showed their true colors.

    These Armstrong franchisees often have other totally bankable skills. But, they don't consider them to be important enough. Their problem becomes that they have the same mental disease as the old woman who lived in the shoe! Originally, if I understand the story correctly, Ambassador College wanted Dave Pack for his swimming skills. They wanted to train him to represent the USA and AC in the Olympics. He quickly rebuffed them, because he had a different calling in mind for himself. Once he was out from under the supervision of his COG mentors, and was only accountable to himself, he went off the rails. Forget about your crown relating to your city or cities! Apparently, he believes that he gets his own Kingdom! And, this varies only in degree with what Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, or Ron Weinlamd fantasize about themselves.

    Theil is the youngster amongst them. As the older guys pass, most likely their members will either go with UCG or COGWA, two organizations where there are numerous leaders and a heirarchy in place, or they will leave religion, or go independent. Bob Thiel is not destined to become the new Ron Dart. Ron Dart did actually have a legitimate ministerial history prior to coming under the influence of HWA. And what he learned from that was what attracted people to him. He was unlike any other minister in the WCG. It's just too bad that he ended up continuing with the Armstrong heresies, instead of correcting them.



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  4. I trust DR SEUSS way more than I trust Dr. Thiel!

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  5. Well, I trust Captain Kangaroo, and Mr. Green Jeans, and even Tom Terrific more than Bob Thiel!

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  6. Using the label 'independant' usually as an insult, is such stale talk. So mid 1990s.

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