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Saturday, February 11, 2023

Dave Pack the Addict: When Prophecy Becomes A Drug

 


My Heroin

                 

With so many balls juggling in the air, it is difficult to keep track of all the wild claims and screaming failures that drop at the feet of David C. Pack.

 

The people of The Restored Church of God experienced two prophetic disappointments this week: Tuesday, February 7, and Friday, February 10. This is by no means close to a record, but it is still notable.

 

Three and a half days of punishment did not begin on Tuesday, culminating with the return of Jesus Christ and the start of the Kingdom of God at sunset Friday night.

 

Interestingly, David C. Pack never addressed the 40-day count to Abib 1 dissolving, the absence of Elijah rising on the world stage, or the Kingdom of God Sabbath no-show. It was as if he had never said it.

 

“The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 418)” Thursday proved the Bible translators know how to take a beating. They were resurrected so Dave could sucker punch them again and toss them back into their graves until the next time. There will be a next time.

 

They are not the only ones Ragin’ Dave tends to get violent with.

 

Logic has bruises on her arms and neck while the Truth is buried in the backyard under the wood pile. Accountability is locked in the closet with an empty water bowl and a leg chain. Reason is sealed in a box in the attic with only a tiny breathing hole. Mushrooms grow on the corpse of Integrity in the basement corner. Meanwhile, the brethren pay Dave to vomit nonsense on them while they sit motionless and quiet.

 

The filthiness going on inside The Restored Church of God is graphic.

 

Logic, truth, accountability, reason, and integrity are the innocent victims of David C. Pack.

 

The real tragedy is that the brethren can take action but choose not to. Instead, they endure while waiting to see what God will do. Just like the Sabbath-keepers still attending Grace Communion International. They take it and wait.

 

 

The skimmers will enjoy the highlights of Part 418:

 

·      Everything is still on track.

·      Words are Dave’s heroin.

·      After years of “rushing,” he is now supposed to “stretch out” the Series.

·      He never understood what “nourish” meant.

·      Daniel's three and a half days are not the same as in Revelation.

·      There is a new date, but he refuses to say it.

·      Part 419 is next week.

 

The first seven minutes of Part 418 encapsulate everything wrong with David C. Pack and The Restored Church of God.

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 00:03 Well, I told you last time there was nothing else to cover, no other message. And now, you know, God can surprise all of us with a whole message.

 

Wow. His first sentence tells you that trusting him is a fool’s errand. David C. Pack is not a man of his word. He admitted that immediately when he opened his mouth.

 

His second sentence drapes the cloak of biblical fraud over God’s shoulders. And he does it without fear.

 

Listen to the man and hear his words, brethren of God.

 

In his first sentence of Part 418, David C. Pack tells you not to believe him.

 

In his second sentence of Part 418, David C. Pack tells you not to believe his god.

 

Soak that in. The first two sentences. Do not trust him. Do not trust his god. Hear him.

 

 

Over the years, David C. Pack has invoked God's name to spin a later proven false yarn. The True God does not inspire lies and deception. The Spirit of Error is all about that.

 

This is Dave’s god, not mine.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 37:31 I was haunted, we'll say, by God's Spirit guiding me. Now, haunted is a bad word, but troubled. Just uncomfortable. Unsettled…

 

Did you mean vexed like King Saul?

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 00:25 We’ve seen God slowly draw us forward. He’s constantly laying out more track.

 

His god loves to string the brethren along, teasing them with the carrot on the stick tied to their belt so they will never get closer.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 1:39:30 These dates are set, and I will say before God they can only change if the Bible can change. You cannot argue with “midst of the years.” You cannot argue with the Day of the Lord. And you cannot argue with the sheer massive proof I’m gonna lay on you next time that Elijah rises before February 10th.

 

The Bible must have changed. Elijah did not rise before last night, and Dave never finished his list of proofs because he realized mid-jump he was full of malarkey. He never recanted this, either. He just kind of stopped talking about it. Like a politician would do.

 

Part 415 – January 17, 2023

@ 32:04 God, in His mercy, gave us Abib 1 and 40 days in front of it.

 

This is about the 40 days that failed to start last night. The only logical conclusion is that God did not give this. But Dave cannot see that. He refuses to see that. Why do the brethren also refuse?

 

Part 417 – February 2, 2023

@ 43:01 I’ve had an opportunity just to let God show me these final things that I need to see.

 

Tuesday failed. Friday night failed. Not at all final. More dropped balls at David C. Pack's feet, but God is credited with being the One who tossed them into his hands.

 

That addresses the first two sentences of Part 418.

 

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 00:18 But we're still fine, brethren. Everything is still on track. I love to open saying that, knowing that it's true, but with more time than we thought.

 

That is not true. The insults begin early. Each time Dave faces an obvious failure, he looks in the mirror and repeats that it is still fine. Because repeating something makes it true.

 

He "loves" saying that? The fact he repeats "still on track" should be a red flag for those paying attention. 

 

Nothing burned me more while sitting in the Main Hall than hearing Dave smile about how “on track” everything was when it was clearly not true. That is gaslighting. That is denial. That is a lie.

 

He preaches the Kingdom of God will come. Then it does not. He reassures everyone how on track they still are. Rinse and repeat.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 08:13 We're still on time. Believe me, more than you could ever know. Everything's still fine. Absolutely. Absolutely. More than I could have ever believed, God could tell us in this most-exciting sermon conclusion.

 

How is any part of that even remotely true? That is a trick question. None of it was true. NONE of it.

 

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 00:28 Some new things can be explained, and some old ones can be clarified.

 

“Clarified” is code for glossing over mistakes. Folks in RCG are well-versed in what “clarify” really means.

 

@ 00:52 But recall from my last message that my hope and prayer, and I think yours, was answered. You now know the days [of punishment] are less.

 

This is a lie. No prayer was answered.

 

Whether every human being on the earth prayed or every human being on the earth did not pray, the result was always going to be the same: NOTHING.

 

This is a veiled "God gave us more time" lie by David C. Pack. The collective RCG "prayer" was that the time of punishment would be shorter. Not for the dates to fail.

 

And fail, they did. But hey, that is not Dave’s fault. No, God answered a prayer and changed the timing on everyone. The man is such a coward.

 

This is putting a deceitful, positive spin on prophetic error. Dave again throws his blunder into God's hands as if he correctly taught the dates, but God changed His mind and altered His plan at the last second.

 

Who is Dave fooling? Maybe himself more than those listening to this nonsense.

 

Thus far, we are only inside the first minute of Part 418 with 91 more to go. There are serious problems inside The Restored Church of God.

 

@ 01:05 So, thirteen and a half days plus a month was wrong, as I had thought.

 

Hold on. Was it an answered prayer, or was he just wrong? How can it be both?

 

This was the very next sentence. Were the brethren of The Restored Church of God and David C. Pack actually praying that David C. Pack was wrong? And he was wrong, so therefore, their prayers were answered?

 

That sounds insane. And yet, that seems to be what he is saying. The war in his mind from one sentence to the next is astonishing to witness.

 

No one needs to pray for David C. Pack to be wrong. He just is by default.

 

 

I would never be able to get away with making this kind of thing up.


@ 01:34 As you've learned, this has been a word study. Words matter. And I'm the son of a wordsmith, so I love words. I can't get enough of them. Some people like heroin. I don't. I've never tried it and don't intend, but I love words. They are, I guess, my heroin.

 

What an odd, goofy, and bizarre thing for a minister to say at the lectern to a church. Maybe he was advised not to say, “Words are my porn.” Heroin was a less-awkward parallel.

 

The “David C. Pack: Heroin User” analogies write themselves.

 

He may love words, but he sure does not understand them. He is so doped up he cannot comprehend what he reads. He opens his mouth, and gibberish comes out. He is so high that he sees things in the Bible that are not there, like that he is Elijah.

 

Rather than words, David C. Pack is addicted to prophecy. He is a junkie in that respect. He ignores reality to satisfy his habit. He needs his fix so bad he makes others give up their retirement accounts and inheritances just so he can keep riding that wave.

 

I look forward to reading the comments you creative folks will make about David C. Pack being a drug addict.

 

I never dreamed I would be able to make this statement: There is more than Reefer Madness going on at The Restored Church of God. We have barely scratched the surface of Part 418.


Marc Cebrian

See: My Heroin

18 comments:

  1. Pack is whack on smack.

    White lies are white lines to Dave.

    Hey Dave, we can see the needle marks from here. You need a 12 step program for prophecy addiction. You happen to have the worst case of it within Armstrongism, but only by a small measure. Your wordsmithing skills suck. You have absolutely no idea what you are doing and will be held responsible for every single member who dies believing your particular variety of heresies. How will you and your "ministers" answer Almighty God when it's your turn? Same question for Flurry, Weston, Weinland and our favorite little flower girl.

    People of RCG, please leave this "church". Dave Pack is a dangerous man who has no qualms lying to you in the Name of God. What more do you need to know, beyond the truth that this man SELLS THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST? If that is not enough for you to run, not walk out, nothing ever will be.

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  2. Addiction is established through behavioral patterns and symptoms in ones life. Drugs are simply a metaphor for all agents of addiction. Dave has got the altered thinking patterns, the stereotypical uncaring relationships with all others, in which their value always takes a back seat to his drug of choice, the denial that anything is wrong, and the voracious appetite for cash to support his addiction. The guy is so deluded that he would probably tell you that Jesus had the same habit patterns, failing to realize that Jesus was Jesus, spoke only truth, and made sure that others around him were taken care of.

    I have a problem with people in his group patiently waiting for change. Isn't that complacency? Isn't it tacit approval, perhaps the very thing that is enabling him? They face a heck of a dilemma, but he's plainly messing up the very thing they seem to feel is their commission! If they can't admit that he is not "of God", the very least they could do is to hold him accountable!

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  3. The spirit of God is the spirit of a sound mind.

    Pack's followers are senseless fools. There is no spirit flowing.

    Same goes for the other COGs.

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  4. The true God does not string people along, manipulate them, or deceive them. The demonic power behind Dave is the god YHVH, whom Dave follows.

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  5. First of all he said " words are my heroin" not prophecy but you guys always persecuted Mr. Pack and God's one true church.

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  6. There is one true chuch, and no man is the head of it. The the Restored Church of God never was, nor ever will be the True Church of God. No one needs to pursecute Pack. The bible condemns him for who, and what he is, and what he says. Instead of repenting for all the hurt and misery that he has inflicted, he continues down his path od distruction.

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    1. In Armstrongism there are zero true churches and a lot of make believe.

      I’m a future king!

      I’m a future priest!

      No you’re just listening to the same sermons ad nauseum and pretending the world even knows who you are.

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  7. Hey TC @9:43. Long time no hear. You can make all the excuses for "Mr" Pack you want, but ultimately you will have to answer God as to why you followed a proven false prophet/apostle, contrary to the explicit instructions of God. One false prophecy is all it takes. God did not cite any exceptions. But the worst thing Dave has done, is to sell salvation to unsuspecting members. Beyond unforgivable.

    Good luck in eternity TC. Nobody wants you to leave God..just Dave and the heretical teachings of the "churches" of God. You will likely never understand Jesus, much less salvation, while a member of a man made, legalistic false religion.

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    1. We don't obey God's laws just because Mr. Pack says so but because God says so! And Mr. Pack is a great teacher of God's laws and his way of life called the give way.
      The Love of God is to observe the commandments:
      “This is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments.”​—1 John 5:3

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  8. When the Worldwide Church of God exploded into little pieces under the apostate Tkaches in the 1990s, many little splinter groups formed. Currently, not even one of these splinter groups is even one-tenth of the size of the WCG at its peak. Also, not all of these splinter groups are holding onto what Herbert W. Armstrong had taught, and that includes some groups that loudly claim that they are.

    Splinter groups like the PCG and the RCG are satanic imposter cults led by Satan's false prophets Gerald and Dave. They were formed to prey on former WCG members and waste their time and money while trying to destroy them.

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  9. Ah, Yes. A "true" church led by someone who is always wrong! That's the ticket. Isn't lying about Jesus supposed to be worse than lying about Santa Claus?

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    1. Mr. Pack isn't lying if you can't understand revealed truth that means you aren't called by God.

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  10. "Brethren, I am still on crack. The Meth is correct!"

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    1. That's priceless! Can't wait to quote you next time a new date fails.

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  11. Ok. So you guys all have the secret decoder ring and each of the fifty or a hundred times he has given a wrong date and time for Jesus' return, you chosen ones hear the real date and we all hear the wrong date? Aside from that being absolutely ridiculous and not representative of any God I'd choose to worship, why does Dave do all the backpedaling and excuse making each time the latest fails? You might want to check yourself into the nearest mental care facility. There is no shame in asking for help. Have you been seeing a large bunny rabbit of the Pookah variety here lately?

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  12. Mr Pack isn't lyng if his lips aren't moving.

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