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Saturday, September 9, 2023

Dave Pack Declares Himself the Branch



Branching Out

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God has reached a new depth of biblical depravity. “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 465)” given on September 2, 2023, is far and away his most blasphemic.

 

After spending several days trudging through knee-high mud of his perverse logic, I reached the end of the insanity with eleven pages of notes. Refuting David C. Pack is not challenging. It just takes a lot of time.

 

The people remaining in The Restored Church of God after Part 465 must have fully adopted the “Because I Say So” doctrine.

 

“Believe me, don’t believe your Bible.”

 

Everything has a reasonable and natural limit. Brethren of The Restored Church of God, if you believe the words of David C. Pack and remain in that abominable pit of heresy, you are running out of excuses. May God have mercy on you.

 

For over fifty years, brethren have been mistakenly thinking they were reading about Jesus Christ throughout their Bible. During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 465),” David C. Pack corrected that error. We were actually reading about him.

 

In 2005, David C. Pack made himself an apostle.

In 2009, David C. Pack made himself Joshua the High Priest.

In January 2015, David C. Pack made himself Elijah the Prophet.

In December 2015, David C. Pack made himself That Prophet.

 

In 2023, David C. Pack has declared himself the Branch.

 

You would be hard-pressed to hear more blasphemy crammed into ninety-nine minutes than during Part 465.

 

David C. Pack is the Branch

David C. Pack is the Plant of Renown

David C. Pack is the Fig Tree

David C. Pack is the Shepherd of Israel

David C. Pack is the Stone of Israel

David C. Pack is the one named “The Lord Our Righteousness”

David C. Pack Will Sit on David’s Throne as a King

 

The Kingdom of Dave has returned

The Four-Kingdom structure reverted back to three

Giant mistranslations blinded him

Herbert W. Armstrong was wrong, wrong, and so wrong

 

 

Three. Four. Three. Four. No…Three.

 

The Feast of Trumpets on September 16 is still “on.” Unless that changed during Part 466 on Thursday or Part 467 today.

 

Part 465 – September 2, 2023

@ 00:19 When is it most likely that Elijah would sound a trumpet? Now, that's not really very hard, is it? The Feast of Trumpets. When is he most likely at the same time to lift up his voice like a trumpet? Feast of Trumpets. Or else, those are coincidences.

 

@ 01:13 Now, I’m surprised to be able to say this (to say the least), but utterly (and I do mean utterly) astonishing things now come clear. They were blinding. Without them, our ability was blinded. Anyone’s ability is blinded to get the picture straight.

 

So far, it sounded like a typical message. He even backpedaled from the week before, explaining there are not really four Kingdoms of God, but three.

 

@ 01:57 I went back and forth from three to four. You’re gonna understand the greatest reasons why and why anyone else would’ve done the same thing. So, I will repeat. Utterly astonishing things now come clear in Part 465.

 

@ 02:29 When is Christ’s Kingdom? When is it? I wanna remove some doubt about this because of some unbelievable mistranslations and, misunderstandings, and teachings from the past.

 

Wow. The Worldwide Church of God really hamstrung Dave. He could have figured this out sooner if not for the misguided Herbert W. Armstrong albatross hanging on his neck. False doctrinal biases prevented the Packian Triad of Fraud from getting the timing correct. Until now.

 

The real culprit of  Three v. Four is Dave’s own piss-poor reading comprehension skills. He concluded that Christ's Kingdom will not be IN this world.

 

John 18:36

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world…

 

To David C. Pack, the word “of” means “in.” Brad should sit him down to explain the difference. You can be “of” your mother while no longer “in” her. I can be “of” California but not “in” California. The ability to grasp this rudimentary language concept escaped him.

 

@ 04:16 “[Christ’s Kingdom] It’s not coming from here on. It’s not gonna be in this world at all, ever. Now, that knowledge arrived late on the scene. But it’s been very confusing.

 

Well, not to those who grasp the difference between a location and an origin.

 

@ 04:57 But, His Kingdom is not of this world. Therefore, there cannot be a kingdom in front of the three. Now, that’s just one of the things that was blinding my ability to get this right because God reserved (in some ways) the greatest things for the last number of messages.

 

This is not the first time Dave admitted God has blinded him. This point is always worth noting, no matter what topic an article covers. The chosen vessel to disseminate the Mystery of God is repeatedly blinded by the god that commissioned him to do it.

 

Dave’s god is playing prophetic Peek-A-Boo. It blinds him. It reveals to him. It blinds him. It reveals to him. The god Dave proclaims is a cruel trickster who could not figure out how to fulfill his plan without lying, deceiving, and forcing ignorance. No, thank you.

 

 

The Branch

 

As incompetent as David C. Pack is with the comprehension of basic English, he is exceptionally adept at weaponizing words when necessary. This supports the theory that there is more than one mind at work in his head.

 

During all of Part 465, he never says, “I am the Branch.”

 

He leaves a dung trail for the audience to follow to the compost pile of his intention. This does not make for quick-n-easy YouTube content. He speaks in the third-person perspective, referring to "this man" when talking about himself.


I Am The Branch Part 1




I Am The Branch Part 2



I Am The Branch Part 3

 

@ 19:28 Now, what I’m going to cover at this point is awkward. I actually thought about skipping this material.

 

There is no way under heaven David C. Pack was going to skip this material. Rest assured, if he considered it for two seconds, that was too long.

 

@ 19:41 But, it’s too helpful to know, and it's part of making plain what's gonna happen. Making the year plain. There is a certain mystery that God says is finished. And I can’t duck it.

 

What a great world we live in where you can elevate yourself above all other human beings who ever lived AND slip right into a role reserved for the Son of God WHILE also helping other people.

 

Dave was backed into a prophetic corner and had no choice but to become 3% more of the content in your Bible. Ah, shucks.

 

@ 19:53 But, about ten years ago (and I'll explain to you later what this is), I got an email from Mr. Schurter. Very, very well-written.

 

@ 20:33 And he only made a fraction of the case, but he really made enough of the case that I believed it could not be true…I wish I'd have listened to him, but God did not want what I'm gonna tell you known ten years ago. So, I'll just say again what I'm gonna cover is somewhat awkward. But somebody has to do it. And I’m gonna do it.

 

@ 21:14 Every time I read the word “David” in the Scriptures, it gets awkward. But it's my job to carry out this charge. This long eight-year charge. And so, I have to sorta wince and try to remember that the most important part is whatever you're learning about him, you're learning about yourself. Whatever happens to him happens to you because we’re all in this together.

 

I hope the brethren pray to God on their knees with blood, sweat, and tears that this is not the case. Nobody in The Restored Church of God should want what will happen to David C. Pack to happen inclusively to them. They should shudder in terror at this idea.

 

@ 21:43 If he’s a king, you’re a king. If he’s a priest, you’re a priest. If he’s a judge, you’re a judge. If he’s a counselor, you’re a counselor. If he’s a branch, you’re a branch. You see? So, we’re all branches.

 

And there it was. An indication of where he was heading.

 

@ 24:51 So then, who is the Old Testament Branch? …We know what a vine is. The church has always said it's Christ. But Christ said, "I am the vine. You are the branches."

 

@ 25:29 So, I’m gonna ask you, Who is the Branch? Not Christ. He’s the Vine.

 

@ 29:28 “Behold, I will bring forth My servant, the Branch.” Now, there’s a number of problems right here that make it impossible this is Christ. Christ is hardly just a servant of God. We’ve always assumed that He’s a servant because we assumed He was the Branch. No, no, no. He's the Vine.

 

@ 33:48 But, if you think Christ is the Branch (and I’m gonna destroy that and show you amazing things)you will have Christ ruling in this year [1-Year Kingdom]. If you don’t have Him properly as the Messenger of the Covenant or the Angel of the Lord or the Stone with Seven Eyes, and the Branch being brought forth in a (as all the other verses say), you will not get this right.

 

@ 34:24 Now, this gonna take on unbelievable proportion. But he is called My servant. "My servant, the Branch." David is called in at least three or four places…My servant, David. I know of no place where Christ is just simply called a servant. That reduces Him. He’s the Vine. All the branches come off. To reduce Him to a branch is we didn’t understand because of the Jew’s thinking…

 

Mark 10:44-45

And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister…

 

@ 38:18 Isaiah 11:1. "There shall come forth," or go out "a rod," a twig, a twig, "out of the stem of Jesse." Now, it's telling you that this man is descended from David. He has to be. He's gonna be associated with David's throne. "And a branch," that's a netser, and it means "a chute" or “a descendant” "of Jesse shall grow out of his roots." Jesse's roots.

 

@ 39:16 So, who's the root of Jesse? Christ. "There shall be a root of Jesse, which will stand for an ensign of the people to which shall the Gentiles seek in his rest shall be glorious." …Christ is the root of Jesse. Christ created Jesse. Jesse didn't create Christ.

 

Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you

these things in the churches.

I am the root and the offspring of David…

 

Matthew 1:1

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ,

the son of David, the son of Abraham.

 

@ 39:45 Now, this twig is a descendant of Jesse and David. And I am…But no one ever saw that, and I've read it, I don't know how many times.

 

@ 40:45 Brethren, that’s why I said it’s awkward to cover this. But I don't know if we can really understand the Kingdom of God and when Christ's Kingdom comes and goes on eternally unless we can understand what this kingdom is about. Who are the kings and chiefly (for the moment) we’re talking’bout who is the Lead King here? The High Priest here…you have to have somebody on David’s throne. And you hafta have somebody directing sacrifices who's a Levite. And I know for a fact I'm descended from both.

 

Luke 1:32

He [Jesus] shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest:

and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David.

 

@ 41:15 So, if somebody wants to throw stones at me, then I’d say, “Well, then, you call Christ a Branch. Be very careful doing that. [laughs] Okay? He says, “I’m the Vine. You’re the branches.” But no one ever connected this.

 

Jesus Christ is the Vine. Therefore, He cannot also be the Branch.

 

@ 41:36 But, you can kinda guess what the email from Mr. Schurter said ten years ago. He'd done some research, and he'd come to this conclusion. I just thought, “No way.” I almost thought it was blasphemous.

 

What was blasphemous ten years ago is now undeniable biblical truth. These mile markers show David C. Pack’s mental and spiritual decline into heretical madness. Nobody should be shocked the day he teaches Jesus Christ is already here, “Behold, He is in the secret chambers.”

 

@ 43:23 “…behold the man.” The man. That’s the key. “Whose name is the Branch.” You could never say Christ’s name is the Branch. You would reduce Him, practically defile him to say that…The man whose name is the Sprout. Right. God would name Jesus the Sprout.

 

@ 44:46 That’s impossible. It degrades Him terribly.

 

Dave often speaks of himself in the third person perspective to avoid causing the brethren to wince. What he is really saying is in [brackets].

 

@ 52:21 “[God] will raise [me]." Christ comes in Acts 3 and raises [me—Elijah]. "And I will raise unto David." Now, try to imagine that's Christ. This Branch. You're gonna raise Christ unto David? The ancient King David? What? But if there were some human being [me] who was the last king to sit in this world on David’s throne, it would make perfect sense. You would raise [me] a man. A servant. Even with the same name. It would also hide from the world what you’re doing. The last man to sit on David’s throne [is] named David, but [I am] a servant and [I am] a man.

 

@ 54:18 So, this man is here…I never understood why exactly. Whether you call [me] Elijah, or Joshua or David, or the Twig, or whatever you wanna call [me], [I'm] here [the 1-Year Kingdom].

 

David C. Pack lacked the courage to declare boldly and unequivocally that he was the Branch. Why?

 

Jesus Christ is the Branch.

Do not believe otherwise.

 

 

Wait…there’s more?

 

David C. Pack carrying the name, "The Lord Our Righteousness," is too big to squeeze in now. But yes, he went there with the help of a falsely perceived mistranslation. He was also able to “see” much more.

 

As he wrapped up Part 465, he swiped at the brethren who might bristle at his blasphemous deceptions. He reminded the spiritually queasy brethren that the prophetic rollercoaster is just a test to sift out the faithless from among The Restored Church of God.

 

@ 1:34:47 You can understand why God would allow me for years to see who’s gonna bail out. And either lose everything or buy themselves a year where way under 50% of the saints are gonna make it.

 

If you leave The Restored Church of God, you will suffer terribly in the coming days. That is the point.

 

However, nothing biblical will happen this week and absolutely cannot happen next Friday night. David C. Pack will prove himself to be a liar once again. The excuses will precede sunset. The Headquarters hirelings will hem and haw and stammer.

 

Part 465 is a study in damnable heresies.

David C. Pack is a blaspheming liar.

 

The ultimate "Put your pencils down. The test of over" moment will be when David C. Pack declares that he is "a type of Christ" to the brethren of The Restored Church of God. When you connect the dots, the path in that direction glows in the darkness.

 

If people choose not to leave before that point, they may not be allowed to after. By then, it will be too late.

 

David C. Pack is a dry branch that will break…or be broken.

 

Brethren, do not be bundled together with him.


Marc Cebrian

See: Branching Out

 

26 comments:

  1. If he just declares himself to be Gerald Flurry he would have all those titles in one go.

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  2. I only have one question. Is there any reference mentioned in the bible that "Does Not" refer to David Pack?

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  3. I don't see how anyone can sit and listen to Dave Pack's weekly vomit. These splinter brethren have fallen asleep, and do not realize Dave Pack is a wolf in sheep's clothing seeking whom he can devour only after stealing their assets through his Communist Common doctrine.

    Are Dave Pack's lieutenants whom Marc has named in other posts so spineless and so weak that none will stand up for God, the truth and for the brethren who are being fleeced by this con artist Dave Pack - and cut this dead branch off? Not one has the guts to do what Marc did?

    Richard

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  4. Pack is NOT the Branch. He is not even a TWIG! He is a WEED!

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  5. Does David Pack's new revelation mean that RCG is now the true Branch Davidian church?

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  6. Anon Sept 9 @ 4:13pm "If he just declares himself to be Gerald Flurry he would have all those titles in one go."

    That is brilliant. Want a job writing for my site? I'll pay you 100% what I make. :)

    Marc

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    1. David Pack already declared he was a type of Jesus Christ years back. Pretty sure he edited the sermon and it is now gone. But one might find it. It was years ago.

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  7. I come here hoping to read Dave Pack's obituary. I'm sure many others do as well. He could help us all by prophesying the date it will appear and save us all the trouble of frequent checking. We could relax and not bother to log on till the specified date, saving time we could devote to going fishing or having a beer with friends.

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  8. David C. Pack is the Branch
    David C. Pack is the Plant of Renown
    David C. Pack is the Fig Tree
    David C. Pack is the Shepherd of Israel
    David C. Pack is the Stone of Israel
    David C. Pack is the one named “The Lord Our Righteousness”
    David C. Pack Will Sit on David’s Throne as a King


    David The Quack is trying really, really, really hard to catch up to Satan's favorite false prophet Gerald Flurry in the name game, but That Runt has a head start.

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  9. Anonymous at 4:35 PM said...“I only have one question. Is there any reference mentioned in the bible that 'Does Not' refer to David Pack?”

    Nope! None at all. According to Dave, it is all about Dave, Dave, and Dave, from start to finish.

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  10. "We're all bozos on this bus" fire sign theater

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  11. The Branch

    Today, Dave is the branch.

    Tomorrow, Dave will be the whole tree.

    Before he is done babbling, Dave will be the entire forest.

    Dave's ailment just grows and grows and grows.

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  12. Everybody sing-
    Oh the twig on the branch and the branch on the tree and the tree in the hole and the hole in the ground and the green grass grows all around and around etc.
    Unfortunately Dave causes the real truth to be spoken evil of.

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  13. Pack's RCG is like a herd of cattle that strayed and grazed in the jimson weed patch! Udder confusion!

    A real prophet is recognized through his sharing of information he received from another place, beyond the human plane, and for that information to be precise and accurate. Dave is making all of this stuff up, without applying so much as a scintilla of logic to his incessant pronouncements. It is as if he has found a way to remove the time sequencing element from his memory. Time is the way in which thoughts and actions are catalogued and organized. Were it not present, it would be a mighty confusing world in which to live. It's possible for one person to lose this, although such a phenomenon would be considered to be a severe mental illness. One would imagine that all those around him would realize that something is dreadfully wrong. That they do not, begs a question. Has he actually gotten inside of their heads and destroyed their ability to organize or sequence with time as well???

    What is happening in the RCG is theoretically impossible!

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  14. Dave Pack was jealous of witless false witness Ron Weinland and babbled long and hard to outdo him at making up prophetic fantasy fiction fables and fibs.

    Now, Demon Dave is trying hard to outname and outsin Gerald Flurry, but Gerald is still Satan's favorite false prophet.

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  15. Anonymous at 9:50 PM said...“What is happening in the RCG is theoretically impossible!”

    With men, it might seem to be theoretically impossible.

    With Satan and the demons working through Dave, the craziness might be just getting started.

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  16. Well, ya know, when the Common income is dropping you gotta branch out.

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  17. Obviously, he who understands everything, yet does not, can't fathom that the branch analogy in the Gospels is NOT to be equated with THE BRANCH scriptures in the Old Testament. Two different concepts.

    Jeremiah 23, 33, Zechariah 3, 6, Isaiah 4, etc, have nothing to do with Dave of course. Romans 11:17 makes it clear, Jews and Gentiles are branches to be grafted on.

    His board of enablers need to step up to the plate and get Dave into therapy for delusional thinking with religious content.

    KEY POINTS
    Psychosis can include delusions (false beliefs) and/or hallucinations (perceiving something that doesn't exist).

    Delusions of reference involve thinking that random events contain a special meaning only for you.

    Delusions of grandeur involve believing you're publicly important, a prophet, messiah, or God.

    Delusions are a cardinal feature of psychotic illness, present in around three quarters of people with a schizophrenia spectrum diagnosis [1, 2]. ...Religious delusions, in contrast, have routinely been linked to poorer prognosis for people with psychotic disorders [12].

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4173112/


    Dave believes that the Jewish people don't understand their own scriptures. This view is also taken by the Apostle Paul (Please don't get angry at me for pointing this out and NO, Dave is not like the Apostle Paul. If he sees this explanation, he'll claim he is Paul reincarnated)

    Paul says,
    2 Corinthians 3: 12Therefore, since we have such a hope, we are very bold. 13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away.

    14But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. 15And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

    He Paul claims that the Jews don't understand their own scriptures as well. But he badly uses the story of Moses wearing a veil when in the presence of the people when he did not wear one in the presence of God on Mt Sinai receiving the Law. The shinning was because of the glory of God and the Law given.

    Exodus 34:35 KJV
    And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him. (God).

    Paul interpreted, rightly or wrongly, (Jewish Rabbis and Christian Theologians would go with wrongly) that the veil was actually a BLINDFOLD. In the original story, it was to dampen down the glory of God and the Law so Moses could talk with the people and he removed the veil when he returned to talk with God on the Mountain.

    I'd like to see David C Pack tell Rabbi Tovia Singer that the Jews don't understand THE BRANCH and he,The Great David C Pack IS!. He'd not last long the Foolish Shephard that he is.

    Paul added a theological twist to the story that was never a part of the original story and he used an exact opposite conclusion of the original story to make his point about how "the blindfold" can be taken away. It was not hermeneutics at it's best on Paul's part but overreaching to make a point.


    The "fading away" aspect of the Law was pure Paul . In the original OT story, neither God, Moses or the people missed the real point, because they were blinded to the "fact" that the law was really fading away. The veil was to tone down the glory of God and the Law so Moses could communicate with the people. It was not a blindfold. Thanks for your time.

    2 Corinthians 3: 12Therefore, since we have such a hope, we are very bold. 13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away.

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  18. Pack isn't the branch, but sure needs to be beaten with one for his sins and crimes against his victims!

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  19. Even the WCG had many perverts in it. How much more the splinter groups! In fact, some splinter groups were started and led by perverts like Garner Ted Armstrong, Gerald Flurry, and David Pack.

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  20. Bad fruit comes from a bad tree.

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  21. Pack is actually very much like the crazies whom Tonto told us called into the WATTS lines while answering them was his job!

    HWA would be flabbergasted by everything coming out of Dave's mouth!

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  22. These foolish men claiming titles would be served best in learning from one who was asked who he thought he was.

    19And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? 20And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. 21And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 22Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 23He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.

    When a man claims a title, the chances are probably 100 percent he's not what he says he is. Pack is a Charlatan.

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  23. When we were little we always had to go to the bathroom before bed. We were told it's time to "make a branch" (go pee) and get in bed.
    So yeah, I guess DCP can be a branch.


    For the city folks out there, a "branch" is a small stream that feeds into a creek, which feeds into a larger stream and eventually into a river.

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