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Sunday, October 1, 2023

Dave Pack: Antichrist Apologetics


Antichrist Apologetics

 

David C. Pack has been systematically normalizing the spirit of antichrist in The Restored Church of God. With “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 465)” on September 2, 2023, he began the most aggressive biblical title-grab of his career by cutting Jesus Christ out of the Bible and pasting in himself.

 

David C. Pack has become the version of Thomas Jefferson he frequently criticizes.

 

Consider. David C. Pack removes Jesus Christ from the Bible and replaces Him with David C. Pack. He does not replace Him with Paul, Peter, James, Jude, John, John the Baptist, Stephen, or ancient King David. No other "unknown church figure" will come "someday" to fulfill those roles. Nope. The guy telling you this stuff is the same guy the stuff is about. Is religion some great racket, or what?

 

That feat could be perceived as a colossal coincidence, but none of it is possible without the unstoppable and immovable Power of Presumption. That power recreates the heavens and the earth for the Kingdom of Dave to allow the people of Dave to worship Dave in the Name of Dave so that one day, they can all be transformed into the likeness of Dave and see him as he truly is.

 

When you have a corrupted mind giving heed to seducing spirits, anything is possible. Statements made during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 470)” on September 23, 2023, are the further result.

 

Part 470 – September 23, 2023

@ 01:30 Now, what we heard nine days ago, I’ve heard over and over from various people, was simply life-changing.

 

It is one thing for David C. Pack not to “see” what he is doing, but it is quite another for people who do not have mental illnesses to agree with it. And simply because I am fluent in Packinese, “over and over from various people” could literally be two people. Two or three starry-eyed All-Believing Zealots are all it takes for Dave to present the impression those accolades are widespread.

 

I watched him stroll through the halls, rushing past people, “Exciting stuff, right?” The brethren think they have no choice but to smile and nod, “Oh yes, Mr. Pack. Exciting.”

 

I stand as a witness to those types of occurrences at Headquarters. Keep that in mind when you hear Dave praise his own revelations because he tends to pump the numbers in his favor and present “facts” from a very narrow perspective. How exciting are the things they no longer teach a week later?

 

 

Spiritual death by a thousand pinpricks. With an occasional swing of the axe.

 

That is what is killing The Restored Church of Another god. Lies are accepted because of repetition and subtlety, each supporting incremental steps toward antichrist thinking.

 

The red dots on the RCG timeline began when David C. Pack declared himself an apostle on February 26, 2005. On August 29, 2009, he assumed the identity of Joshua the High Priest of Zechariah 3. All bets were off once he saw himself in the Bible, and the sky was the limit.

 

The “next level” declarations began on January 24, 2015, when he took to himself the mantle of Elijah the Prophet in a one-day, three-part, nearly six-hour message. By far, the biggest red X blasphemy on the apostasy calendar was on December 26, 2015, when he nullified two of his own books in one day by announcing he (as Elijah the Prophet) was That Prophet of Deuteronomy 18 and Acts 3. The Restored Church of Another god has continued its descent into biblical madness ever since.

 

In 2023, David C. Pack became the Branch, the Messenger of the Covenant, and “one last” Lawgiver. Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, needed to be taken down a few notches, and a mighty man was on the scene to do the job.

 

And he loves to have it so.

 

@ 05:07 So, He's also called the Most High. Now, if you look up the word “high” all through the Bible, He’s called the Most High. Not that His office is higher than everybody else's (of course it is) the word there is elyon. Elohim is different. Elyon means His elevation is higher. The word elevation or lofty or height.

 

Manipulating words is a key to controlling minds. Notice how Dave acknowledges "of course," Most High is an office while dismantling that idea. He also cannot teach about God without associating himself.

 

@ 05:42 Now, when it says that "Elijah is higher than the kings of the earth," that's also elyon.

 

Psalm 89:27 does not reference Elijah. But it is now "true" because Dave says so. By repeating it, the words of the Bible are replaced with David C. Pack’s private interpretation. In this case, he needed to "demystify" a word associated with the phrase "most high" to keep selling Kaiju King Elijah.

 

If David C. Pack is to be taken at face value, I was “most high” over him when I flew to California this week. In fact, all the brethren who traveled for the Feast by plane were also “higher than Dave” for a few hours.

 

@ 06:12 But, when it says Elijah is elyon “above the kings of the earth,” he towers over them, matching the fact that his one foot would be in the sea and one on the land or one in the rivers and one in the sea however it says it there in Psalm 89. So, that's helpful to understand.

 

How is that helpful beyond reinforcing Dave’s giganticness?

 

 

@ 14:50 I wanna make a powerful statement about why this journey was so extraordinary, so historic, and prophetic, and amazing all rolled into one. If you don’t know the difference as we came to between the Lord of Hosts and the Captain of the Host, you’re stymied. I mean, you are just stuck. If you think Christ (for instance) is the God of the Old Testament, you will never understand all kinds of verses.

 

The journey is only prophetic if it comes to pass. In the meantime, it is lunacy.

 

Since David C. Pack removed Jesus Christ as the God of the Old Testament, his misunderstanding accelerated. There is no gray area in that teaching. The two cannot walk together unless they be agreed. It is a great dividing line. One path leads deeper into perpetual error.


@ 16:03 But, let’s go further because until recently, we couldn’t figure out the difference between Elijah and Christ. So we had we saw one Being. Christ was the Lord of Hosts, and He was also fulfilling all the roles of Elijah. He was the Star that came out of the Israel. He was the Shepherd of Israel. He was the Stone, the Messenger of the Covenant, the Branch. No, He’s not. He's the Vine and the Captain of the Host. 

 

David C. Pack uses the word “Elijah” as a buffer to minimize the wincing in the guts of some brethren.

 

This is what he really said:

 

“We couldn’t figure out the difference between ME and Christ.”

“Christ was also fulfilling all MY roles.”

“Christ is not the Branch. I am.”

 

@ 16:33 The one error that the world makes is they increase Christ by making him the God of the Old Testament. The church did that, too. He was the Lord of Hosts in our mind. But the other error is we decrease Christ by making Him the things that a man would do.

 

Stop.

 

David C. Pack has long refuted the idea that Jesus Christ is a man today. Even to suggest so “insults” Him.

 

1 Timothy 2:5

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

 

Denying Jesus Christ is a man today is the core theme of antichrist.

 

1 John 4:1-3

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know you the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

 

Jesus Christ “is come in the flesh” is present progressive. If Jesus Christ is not a man today, then He is not my elder brother. Thomas placed his hand inside the wound to believe Jesus was still a man. Jesus ate fish and honeycomb with the disciples. Men do that.

 

2 John 1:7

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

 

David C. Pack is a deceiver and an antichrist. Don't believe me. Believe your Bible.

 

@ 16:53 When you think, “You're not the Vine. What were you thinking, Christ? You’re a Branch.” ‘Cause it never occurred to us that the Seventh Messenger could be the Messenger of the Covenant or God's Messenger there in Malachi. ‘Cause that's even worse.

 

 

The deception of David C. Pack sometimes comes in the form of verbal sorcery. He carefully worded the following statements to give the impression he desires without directly lying.

 

@ 17:07 Now, if you can't separate Him in either case, you'll understand why the apostates said, “The Bible is the story of Jesus Christ. Herbert Armstrong got it all wrong. He's everywhere all through the Bible.” And they slew the church…

 

Stop.

 

David C. Pack is a historical revisionist. Joe Junior and the Pepperoni Posse taught Jesus WAS the Gospel rather than being about the Kingdom of God. But it was Dave's "father in the Gospel," Herbert W. Armstrong, while The Worldwide Church of God was “on track” who taught all the other things he listed about Jesus Christ’s roles.

 

Herbert W. Armstrong taught Jesus Christ was That Prophet, the Branch, the Messenger of the Covenant, the Shepherd and Stone of Israel, and the Star of Jacob. That was not the doing of the apostates.

 

Dave conflates differing facts by blurring them together to create his alternate version of reality. He is willfully leading the audience to falsely remember that the rebellious apostates that destroyed the WCG put the erroneous ideas that Jesus Christ is the Branch and the Messenger of the Covenant.

 

Dave taught that until a few weeks ago. Why would he do that if the apostates invented it? They didn't, and he knows it. He is taking the concept of “Jesus throughout the Bible” as an error of thinking that aligns with the apostates by conjuring guilt by association.

 

That is an intentional deception executed by David C. Pack. This will also be a new weapon in the hands of his enforcing enablers to counter concerns from brethren. “Oh, you think Jesus Christ is the Branch? The apostates would agree with you.” I bet Ed Winkfield can’t wait to use that one.

 

Psychological warfare. Mind control tactics. Gaslighting. Lying. This is the state of The Restored Church of Another god, headed by a professional blaspheming liar promoting the spirit of antichrist, David C. Pack.

 

 

@ 17:27 …because if you looked through and you believe all of that, there's one Being, where, in fact, there's three. One's the Lord of Hosts. One the other one said, “My Father's greater than I.” He’s the Captain of the Host. And the other was way down the line. He is a man called a servant and various other things, and he's Elijah. Lot of different terms for him. I wrote up 34 of them, and somehow the scribes knew the difference.

 

David C. Pack counted 34 biblical names for himself.

 

In some cases, those names belonged to Jesus Christ. David C. Pack admits he is LITERALLY “in place of Christ.” For years, he criticized Popes for being Vicars, but now it appears that was only out of jealousy, not righteousness.

 

@ 17:53 But remember, weth used to think That Prophet was Christ but Elijah the Prophet was somebody who came into the church. So, we didn't even know that That Prophet and Elijah the Prophet were the same being. Wow. So, truly, the Mystery of God ended truly with the other element of separation between Christ…and the roles that are done by a man with a little flock doing the same before Christ is seen in great power and great glory on the Day of the Lord. So, that also came near the end.

 

David C. Pack is normalizing the spirit of antichrist. The spirit of antichrist is thriving within The Restored Church of Another god. Brethren have a dire choice in front of them.


Marc Cebrian

See: Antichrist Apologetics

5 comments:

  1. Dave's wife must be as patient as Job was

    be patient...or else be "a" patient

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  2. Out of blind-sighted Dave's mouth came: "...@ 16:03 But, let’s go further because until recently, we couldn’t figure out the difference between Elijah and Christ. So we had we saw one Being. Christ was the Lord of Hosts, and He was also fulfilling all the roles of Elijah..."
    ******
    Dave cannot figure out the difference between Elijah and Christ? Duh! What's new?

    And as for Dave saying, "Christ was the Lord of Hosts"? Duh! What's new? God the Father has always been, is, and always will be the LORD of hosts.

    Dave's making Christ the LORD of hosts is simply nothing short of committing idolatry, but there is nothing new with that when it comes to blind-sighted Dave.

    When will God the Father, the LORD of hosts, grant Dave repentance and stop making Christ (another Christ? Satan?) like The Most High?

    Time will tell...

    John

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  3. maybe Dave will drop by & seat himself in the special empty Elijah's place setting 🪑🍽️ at Passover time in some Jewish homes

    then he can say y'all know who Elijah is now, it's me Davy-wavy

    unless G. Flurry gets to that chair 1st

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  4. The worst part about this situation is that Mr. Pack is very clearly a False Prophet. And likely everyone still in splinter land can see it. But when confronted with the truth that Mr. Armstrong is one of a long line of false prophets and teachers, the David defense gets used.

    Dear brothers and sisters, please understand God did not lie when He said many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. He said we must evaluate the fruits. Bad fruit does not come from a Good tree. We don’t have an option for smugly calling one person a false prophet and giving another guy a pass simply because to see him for what he was is too difficult. Too many people are placing their lives on the line because they cannot fathom that they themselves are wrong.

    If you love and practice a lie and love and follow a false prophet, you will not inherit the kingdom of God. Jesus is Lord God and our only Savior! He has to rule your life not your own flavor of Christianity.

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  5. Dave's RCG congregants (& even Gerry's OK PCG folk too) should sing this by Lynyrd Skynyrd & book on outta there I de-clare :


    "Oh, won't you
    Gimme three steps, gimme three steps, mister
    Gimme three steps towards the door?
    Gimme three steps, gimme three steps, mistah
    And you'll never see-ah me no more"
    Fo' Sho' 🎵🎶

    ...Don't want no trouble with you,
    And I know you don't owe me
    But I wish you'd let me
    Ask 1 favor from you"

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