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Thursday, October 19, 2023

UPDATED: He Already Said It!—What On Earth Are You Waiting For?



He Already Said It!—What On Earth Are You Waiting For?

By Scott Steel

October 19, 2023

 

[This article has been updated.]

 

The reward for willing passengers was to be life-changing. After 6000 long lost years, the Mystery of God was now revealed, and its fulfillment was just a few calendar days away for the many who “gave all.”

 

To his credit, Pastor General David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God (RCG) has been a conveyer of energy. Like a wizard, he has created the modern Church of God (COG) experience using the magic of obscure artisan finesse. The sacred extension of his personality utilizes technical virtuosity to instill a grand transference of savage spiritedness to conjure wild sanctimony.

 

Because something is keeping 1300 people in RCG’s seats. If not this, then what?

 

 

Beginning of the End

 

Looking back ten years ago, RCG members had no expectation that hidden biblical mysteries needed to be defined, interpreted, clarified, and templatized. No one I knew expected the books of Haggai, Zechariah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Malachi, or Revelation to be unsealed, re-opened, and revealed. It would have been mind-blowing for early RCG members to think all this had to transpire just before the expected arrival of the Kingdom of God.

 

Prudent and zealous RCG brethren were striving to become like little children ready to enter the Kingdom of God. Such simple and pure thinkers were in no way ready for a wild man to drive an enormous prophetic bulldozer, laying waste to the theological landscape of their minds. There was no worry about what was about to occur nor any expectations for the sheer number of endless hours it would entail. We had a self-proclaimed apostle flush with millions of dollars of the membership’s “Common” money who just built the National Garden Club’s acclaimed gem: the World Headquarters Campus. There would be nothing that could stop the WORK of this magnitude. Even if it were told unto you, you would scarcely believe it.

 

During this time, Dave Pack completely controlled the high ground of the RCG. The “best” men out in the field churches were brought into the sphere of Headquarters to further strengthen and solidify the leverage of the narrative. For the lay members who were seeing the physical growth of the church from all vantage points, it was easy to obey the ministerial requirement to regard and wonder marvelously! 

 

But note that the gospel became known as the Mystery of the Kingdom of God and was open to interpretation. This event-laden narrative was initially titled "The Greatest Story Never Told!” which began in November 2015. Who doesn't like a good story, especially if "WE" are winners in the end? At that time, the Mystery of God was not in the discussion yet, as the starting focus was the Third Temple. We soon realized we were sitting on a roller coaster as our “apostle” laid the course and was the author of our exit strategy.

 

In Part 51, the series title was changed to "The Greatest Untold Story!" after Headquarters accountant Kory North informed the ministry they had been using the title of a pro-Nazi documentary about the life of Adolf Hitler.

 

 

History Repeats Itself

 

Jesus Christ and His relation to the gospel has long been the fighting stance for the Christian world to vilify Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA) and the Worldwide Church of God (WCG). Herbert Armstrong believed that Jesus Christ was just a messenger delivering a message about the Kingdom of God, which constituted the gospel. The majority of Christianity believed that the gospel was a message ABOUT Jesus Christ.

 

This would ultimately spark the ignition of the fire that decimated the Worldwide Church of God. Central to the scattering of 90,000 minds into all directions away from WCG was what Joseph W. Tkach, his son, and "high-ranking ministers" changed as a core teaching: who and what God is.

 

It is pretty simple to extract from the prayer of “thy Kingdom come” that the Kingdom will be an event and a destination with a King. Dave Pack would come to laugh at such simple thinking. That is why he has spent the last ten years solving the Kingdom of God puzzle with simple math, simple history, and simple Bible misinterpretation. He has presented to his church that prophecy is an experience of “cascade learning” and that perceived failures are part of the process leading to truth.

 

According to Dave, that learning process in which he solves the mysteries of the Kingdom and knowing when its arrival is scheduled constitutes first redefining the descriptive nature of God the Father and Jesus Christ. This is David C. Pack's updated and expanded “God Is…” doctrine.

 

Why have ministers and leaders of the Churches of God (COG) throughout history put God through an open reinterpretation to define just who and what He is before the lay member can obtain any understanding of the gospel or the gifts of God?

 

I can confirm the testimony of many of my fellow brethren. The true God healed us, sometimes, many times over. The God we have healed some of our children and miraculously protected them. The God we have mercifully called us out of a condemned world to Himself. The God we have turned the car about to hit us at 60 mph intangible to spare us from certain death.

 

Through these interactions alone, we understand entirely the nature and identity of God and His gifts. Did we need yet another man to come along and alter our thinking about our God and “improve” upon Him? Why must we accept Dave Pack’s revised and expanded god?

 

 

The Restored Church of Another god

 

A visibly unwell Dave Pack delivered “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 470)” on September 23, 2023. The stakes have never been higher as he succumbed to his unstoppable urge and insatiable desire to “rush to call out and make plain” the simple understanding of God in the very last days.

 

Dave’s contagious sickness was no obstacle to his presentation of “knowledge” about all the newly discovered attributes of God. If the membership had been paying attention, they would have realized they were witnessing not only a cascade of learning but also an avalanche of moments when Jesus Christ was removed from the Holy Scriptures, and a suitable replacement was inserted.

 

That replacement by divine selection was none other than David Crowl Pack.

 

Dave insisted this was a necessary transplantation. Jesus Christ could not be "That Prophet" and speak in the Lord's name. So, Dave Pack had to assume that role and title. Jesus Christ couldn't be the Branch of Jesse and have righteousness as the girdle of His loins or faithfulness as the girdle of His reigns. Jesus Christ also could not sit on His throne or bear the glory because it would not fit Dave’s timing. So, Dave Pack had to assume that role and title. A man would have to do all these things. Jesus Christ is not a man, and to suggest so insults Him.

 

Part 465 – September 2, 2023

@ 52:56 The last man to sit on David’s throne was named David, but he was a servant and he was a man. Christ was neither.

 

Since Dave Pack is named David, the Bible must be talking about him because no other options are possible. For decades, WCG members thought they were learning about Jesus Christ when they were actually learning about Dave Pack.

 

As exrcg.org has meticulously recorded, Dave Pack has usurped many titles for himself. Elijah, That Prophet, the Branch, Shepherd, and Stone of Israel, Star of Jacob, the Messenger of the Covenant, Lawgiver, Son of Man, the Seventh Messenger, and Goodman of the House. Those are only a few. Dave Pack recently confessed how many titles he found for himself in the Bible. Do not be tricked by his use of third-person pronouns. He is talking about himself.

 

Part 470 – September 3, 2023

@ 17:40 He is a man called a servant and various other things, and he's Elijah. Lot of different terms for him. I wrote up thirty-four of them…

 

Jesus Christ is being systematically replaced with Dave Pack. This is the reality in RCG. The Kingdom of God could "never, never, never" be understood until Dave’s status, titles, and involvement in God's plan were adequately understood.

 

In the context of removing Jesus Christ from the Bible and putting himself in, Dave Pack admitted, “This journey was extraordinary, historically prophetic, and amazing all rolled into one.” What a brave statement to a, hopefully not utterly blind audience.

 

 

The Trinitarian

 

Dave Pack was still not done redefining God. He has already corrupted the Christology of Jesus and the nature of God the Father, but brace yourself for what else is to come.

 

He said the WCG made two big errors: to increase Christ by calling Him the "God of the Old Testament" and then decrease Him by having him do things only “a man” would do. How does this affect the Godhead?

 

Since the Mystery of God was being finalized "at the very end," which is critical for understanding the Kingdom of God, Dave found it necessary to chide the long-deceased Joseph W. Tkach for introducing the concept that Jesus Christ was all through the Bible. That false teaching slayed the understanding of the membership by introducing one being in the Old Testament.

 

According to Dave, this is woefully incorrect. There are three Beings spoken of in the Old Testament. Yes, Dave Pack just established that he has become part of a rudimentary trinity.

 

       The Father is The Lord of Hosts.

       Jesus Christ is the Captain of the Host.

       David C. Pack is the Branch, the Stone of Israel, the Star of Jacob, the Lawgiver, the Messenger of the Covenant, Joshua the High Priest, plus 28 more.

 

Dave Pack cannot possibly be making himself equal with God. Or could he? There is no way Dave Pack just introduced a new trinitarian godhead to RCG. Or did he?

 

 

The Biggest Elijah

 

More recently in the Series, Dave Pack has established that God and Jesus Christ will be gigantic when they eventually come to earth in a later Kingdom. Think of a grown man holding a globe kind of big. And they have invisible wings. 

 

One of the thirty-four titles Dave holds is "one like the son of man" of Revelation 14:14. Dave Pack is sitting on a cloud holding a sickle and reaping the earth. As Elijah, he will be big. Toweringly big.

 

After making such a strong point about “a man” needing to fulfill all the roles that “reduce” Jesus Christ, he then teaches things that "a man" cannot do. This begs the question: "Why can't Jesus Christ do this? If God has to give a man incredible power, why would His Son not have that power to do it?"

 

Part 470 – September 23, 2023

@ 11:42 The seventh messenger is on a cloud, and he has a sickle in his hand.

 

@ 12:07 The one who’s on the sickle is giant. It’s Elijah. We talked about he’s riding a cloud. So, how big’s the sickle? I’m sure it is not a dot in his palm, and he trying to figure out how to get a hold of it. So, if you see a giant sword or a giant sickle in your mind, all of those going back to nine days ago, help us understand the size of Godwhich is the greatest part of the Mystery of God.

 

Pause for a moment.

 

The size of God is tied directly to a vivid picture of Dave Pack on a cloud. In order to see God properly, you must see Dave Pack properly, and the greatest part of the Mystery of God is now becoming clear.

 

The whole theological playing field was just upended. There has been a subtle introduction of godly characterizations of Dave Pack, making him a necessary pathway to God. It is time to call this for what it is. David C. Pack, in all his physically enormous highness and self-importance, just walked himself right into the “god trap." It's a "trinitarian god trap,” at that.

 

He just offered the most insidious bait and switch ever perpetrated. He stealthily presented himself as a lowly human who is co-servant to God and then, as quick as flipping a light switch, grandly elevated himself to an actual GOD BEING co-joined to the Father and Jesus Christ. This was the intended “learning” point for his congregation to picture in their minds: a massive, winged, sickle-laden biblically titled God of Grandeur, savior of Israel and Judah and the world!

 

Despicable, schismatic, ragingly heretical, and blatantly blasphemous!

 

 

In Place of Christ

 

Many over the years have wondered if it was only a matter of time before Dave Pack would claim he was God. As abhorrent as this is, acting in the role of destroyer, Dave Pack has cut down Jesus Christ to the ground just so that he could stand and tower over Him. 

 

Dave removes Jesus Christ from pages of the Bible to severely reduce Him, and then takes all the glory and righteousness for himself. It is Dave’s only option for increasing himself to the ultimate position.

 

Part 470 – September 23, 2023

@ 13:23 Now, Christ can reduce Himself to be come back as “this same Jesus you saw.” He’ll just be a normal-sized person…but He comes back as “this same Jesus.” I don’t know. Six-foot man, whatever He is.

 

The picture of a gigantic Dave Pack on a cloud and a “six-foot man” Jesus Christ perfectly illustrates his thinking.

 

 

The RCG Dilemma

 

There are certainly questions for current RCG members to consider. Has the reward for your long-suffering and patience "at the very end" been truly "life-changing?" What have you gained? Or should it be asked, what have you lost?

 

It has been said everyone is waiting for something. Dave Pack has made it crystal clear that the wait for the revelation of the Mystery of God is now over. Dave Pack’s self-inclusive astonishing trinitarian God has been established as concrete doctrine. The Mystery of God now ended, the Kingdom of God is now supposedly understood. But what is the reward for the patient, longsuffering RCG member in the Kingdom of God? Dave Pack definitively and succinctly revealed and made plain the ultimate reward of the RCG membership.

 

Part 468 – September 9, 2023
@ 19:24 You will not be sitting in Jerusalem. Elijah will because of his overall roll. But, you will be a king in a place far away.

 

@ 20:12 …but you won’t all be sitting in, you know, in the Branch’s court. You be 10,000 miles away.

 

The Devil doesn’t want any “saints” living in his presence either!

 

It is time to ask: Are you invested so far in your leader's theological exegesis that your mind can only see a giant, winged, mighty man towering as a powerful reaper of the earth in the image of god? Are you at peace with the one you call Jesus Christ, an inconsequential "in the background" figure with the world-known Dave Pack as the visible frontman? Are you okay with an invisible Jesus Christ working behind the scenes in a dark room in the Temple of God for precisely 360 days? Are you filled with excitement that this new trinitarian doctrine grossly disagrees with long-standing WCG understanding because holding fast to “old understanding” would deny you your ultimate reward?

 

Members of The Restored Church of God, what will it take for you to act?

 

The trail of evidentiary facts are right before your eyes. The biblical warnings of the apostles have come to fruition. Peter, Paul, and Jesus Christ’s words have never been more true for the time now. An unrelenting assault is taking place to capture your minds and to pervert your thinking.

 

The theological determination of David C. Pack should not only be frightening, it should be inconceivably terrifying when you consider where he is heading. What else could be added to expose what just transpired and has became a reality in the highest seat of the Restored Church of God?

 

Part 470 – September 23, 2023

@ 17:27 …because if you looked through and you believe all of that, there's one Being, where, in fact, there's three. One's the Lord of Hosts. One the other one said, “My Father's greater than I.” He’s the Captain of the Host. And the other was way down the line. He is a man called a servant and various other things, and he's Elijah.Lot of different terms for him. I wrote up 34 of them…

 

David C. Pack has committed the most sacrilegious, blasphemous offense against what we know as God that has been seen in our time. He reduced Jesus Christ God (who said, “I and my Father are one”) to the visual dust of the earth and made himself a "most high God" in the Kingdom of God.

 

The good and gracious Jesus Christ said all blasphemies and heresies will be forgiven except for one. That is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ did the miracles of God by the power of the Holy Spirit and was falsely accused of doing that work by the spirit of Beelzebub—the prince of demons. That is the unpardonable sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

 

In 2013, David C. Pack said, “I’m not getting this [new understanding] from the voice of God or the voice of an angel or in a dream. I’m getting it from the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of Truth!"

 

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is a two-way street. If a man cunningly does the work of Beelzebub and calls it the work of the Holy Spirit, that is unquestionably blaspheming the Holy Spirit. It doesn’t get any more serious than this, and it is happening right before our eyes and ears. The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is disguised as ending God's Mystery.

 

For the RCG brethren, reality is now. There can be no hope of fully understanding the Kingdom of God when you lose sight of who and what the true God is. Discerning the difference between a false Jesus and the true Jesus Christ is of the utmost importance. Do you recognize which master you serve?

 

Embracing a man with his self-conceived God standing, resplendent visage, unchallenged authority, and kingdom preeminence has its own reward. When you adopt his doctrines, you adopt the fruits thereof. Please see this as an earnest warning and recognize it is not too late to turn your thinking around and anoint your eyes to accept what you already know.

 

David C. Pack does not teach the truth. He does not teach a true God anymore and is poisoning the sheep instead of feeding them. Anyone who chooses to continue on his path will be partakers in his reward. And I fear for such people.


Courtesy of Marc Cebrian

16 comments:

  1. “Because something is keeping 1300 people in RCG’s seats. If not this, then what?” -- Scott Steel

    Glue.

    Dave had the Deacons put glue on their chair seats.

    Next time, look before you sit down.


    “Dave Pack cannot possibly be making himself equal with God. Or could he?” - Scott Steel

    Only temporarily.

    In the end, Dave will have to be above God. Watch and learn.


    “What will it take for you to act? Do you need to hear your in-place-of-Christ leader say the actual words, 'I am God Almighty' and 'You will not sacrifice to any other god but me?'” -- Scott Steel

    RCG cult members have already sacrificed virtually everything they had to Dave. They have not much left to sacrifice to anyone else or to God.

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  2. Dave enjoys the playing with people, like having a fish on a line, and not reeling it in too soon, which would end the fun. Or the cat that plays with the mouse before he eats it.

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  3. The holy spirit is not the spirit of error. How many errors has dave made?

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  4. THE VASTLY UNDERESTIMATED POWER OF SATAN THE DEVIL

    Worldwide Church of God people were repeatedly warned about Satan the Devil trying to attack and destroy the church and yet many WCG people still vastly underestimated his power to deceive.

    Satan the Devil got his APOSTATE Joseph W. Tkach, Sr. to openly throw out of the WCG virtually everything that Herbert W. Armstrong had taught and to openly state what they were doing in the WCG's Worldwide News newspaper in January 1995. This caused the WCG to quickly explode into many little splinter groups.

    Satan the Devil had his FALSE PROPHET Gerald R. Flurry waiting with his PCG cult to take advantage of the religious confusion caused by the Great Apostasy of 1995 and snare some WCG people. The PCG used HWA's name and photograph to attract WCG people and try to destroy them in various extremely cruel ways. Most of these victims of the PCG had already left the PCG by 2010 and the PCG has continued to decline ever since then. People are now afraid to leave the PCG for fear that all their fake “friends” and even relatives and close family members in the PCG will cut off all contact with them in compliance with the Gerald's “No Contact” policy if they try to escape.

    Satan the Devil also raised up his backup FALSE PROPHET David C. Pack with his RCG cult. The RCG even deceived again hundreds of people who previously had been deceived by Gerald's PCG cult. RCG members got hit with Dave's “common” theft scam to steal virtually everything they had and leave them destitute with almost nothing if they leave the RCG.

    Joseph W. Tkach, Sr. had apparently been set up by Herbert W. Armstrong to be his successor after HWA died on January 16, 1986.

    Gerald R. Flurry had gone to the WCG's Ambassador College and had been a “minister” in the WCG.

    David C. Pack had gone to the WCG's Ambassador College and had been a “minister” in the WCG.

    The APOSTATE Joseph W. Tkach, Sr. openly threw out of the WCG virtually all of HWA's teachings, while the FALSE PROPHETS Gerald R. Flurry and David C. Pack each claimed to be following HWA more faithfully than anyone else, even as they both went on to edit, change, warp, mangle, and totally pervert HWA's teachings far worse than anyone else had done.

    The FALSE PROPHETS Gerald Flurry and David Pack were so satanically cruel and evil that they made even the APOSTATE Joseph W. Tkach, Sr. appear to be downright reasonable and decent by comparison.

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  5. 1300 people? Looks like RCG's still got to shrink just a little more. I think the death toll at Jonestown, Guayana was just upwards of 900 people.

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  6. ~~ wow 8:39 ~~
    Tkach is an "apostate" because he doesn't accept HWA's borrowed/bankrupt Anglo-Israel horseshit??

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  7. If religious leaders in the Temple could end up so far removed from God they accuse Jesus Christ of being demonic and a blasphemer then why are you all acting so surprised over Pack????

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  8. in a few months folks, get ready to leave a cup of your Elijah wine at the Passover table for DAVE! (& be sure to modify either a hat rack or umbrella stand to hold Dave's scythe/sickle when he sits there like a Santy Claus as if sipping the Elijah wine just like milk & cookies for Santy...)


    "For Jews, however, Passover is a home-based, solemn festivity, worshiped around the family table … with a very interesting tradition: one small place setting has cup of wine waiting for someone.
    It’s Elijah’s!
    Jewish tradition teaches that Elijah the prophet will be the harbinger of the coming of the Messiah and the world’s redemption. Elijah’s cup, in Judaism, the fifth ceremonial cup of wine poured during the family (seder) dinner on Passover is left untouched in honour of Elijah/(DAVID CROWL PACK!), who, according to belief, will arrive one day as an unknown guest to herald the advent of the Messiah. His presence signals the messianic/(RCG era!): a time of redemption, peace, and spiritual bliss. The full cup ―one for the future ― remains untouched to honor and offer hospitality to Elijah/Davy-wavy when he ultimately appears. Symbolically, he is also welcomed when families open their doors during the Passover Seder."

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  9. How can someone be considered "apostate" (as in Joseph Tkach) from religious beliefs that were totally false to begin with? I've seen comments like this a few times and it almost seems that some are still in the mindset of the old WCG.

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  10. Anon Wrote:“Because something is keeping 1300 people in RCG’s seats. If not this, then what?” -- Scott Steel
    Glue.Dave had the Deacons put glue on their chair seats. Next time, look before you sit down.

    MY RESPONSE:
    Thankfully, a few people have sat down in their chair and found a "thumbtack" in their bottom and have left this madness!

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  11. You came in a little too late, 8:39. You forgot the part about Satan raising up his apostate Herbert W. Armstrong to revolt against the Church of God Seventh Day, taking members with him, and trashing the church by labeling it as being dead. Armstrong's activities inhibited the growth of COG-7 for decades, although it is now larger and healthier than the Armstrong movement which left it for dead.

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  12. CORRECTION to 8:39 PM: “Most of these victims of the PCG had already left the PCG by 2000 [not by 2010] and the PCG has continued to decline ever since then.”

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  13. I find it really hard to believe that even Dave believes his own crap. My opinion is he is just trying to keep his campus afloat.

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  14. There is more than one way to make massive changes to church doctrines.

    Tkach, Sr. openly threw out HWA's teachings and replaced them with Protestant teachings.

    Flurry and Pack initially claimed to be holding fast to all of HWA's teachings, but then went on to replace them with satanic teachings.

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  15. Isn’t COG7 a splinter from Seventh Day Adventists? Followers of Ellen G. White?

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  16. “Because something is keeping 1300 people in RCG’s seats. If not this, then what?” -- Scott Steel

    Glue.

    Dave Pack uses Spiritual Crazy Glue to get his followers to stick around.

    And I do mean CRAZY Glue!

    Dave's followers need to stop sniffing the Crazy Glue.

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