Happy Jurassic Park Day! A Meal 150 Million Years in the making! 
Birds: The Living Dinosaurs Birds are not just descendants of dinosaurs, they are dinosaurs themselves, belonging to a group called theropods that includes T. rex and Velociraptor Today’s feathered flyers descended from a group of meat-eating dinosaurs called theropods. That group also included famous hunters like Tyrannosaurus rex — although birds evolved from T. rex’s much smaller relatives. Birds first emerged about 150 million years ago, in the Jurassic Period. And they’re the only dinosaurs to have survived a mass extinction event 66 million years ago Feathered Velociraptor 
So if you celebrate Thanksgiving, you’re not just tucking into a turkey. You’re digging into a dinosaur. Happy Reverse Jurassic Park Day, everyone! Two Burning Life Questions Which came first? The Chicken or the Egg? Answer: The Egg (Amphibians ) Which came first? Feathers or Flight? Answer: Feathers: Dinosaurs fossils now reveal that many landed dinosaurs had feathers long before flight. They served as both insulation and mating decor. ================================== A turkey's wishbone — the one you and your sister pull from opposite ends to see who gets the middle nodule — is formed by the fusion of the bird's two collarbones. Also called a furcular, the bone serves as the connecting point for muscles and a brace for the wings. During the bird's flapping (yes, turkeys can fly at a clip of 50 mph, or 80.5 km/h in short bursts), the wishbone acts as a spring to store and release energy. This elasticity is also the reason snapping a wishbone before it dries is so tough. 
Turns out, the wishbone is more than a fun game for Turkey Day; it also serves as a reminder that birds evolved from a group of dinosaurs. Researchers have found that the wishbone dates back more than 150 million years to theropods, a group of meat-eating dinosaurs that includes T. rex and Velociraptor. 
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If evolution is true, then the bible must be false. That kills orthodoxy.
ReplyDeleteThe SCIENCE is clear that birds descend from dinosaurs. The evolutionary process explains the diversity and tenacity of life on this planet. To say that it makes the Bible false, or that it negates the need for God is absurd - a FALSE Dilemma.
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean if we invent a time machine and go back in time to the Jurassic era, that dinosaurs are clean to eat?
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ReplyDeleteIf evolution is true, then the bible must be false. That kills orthodoxy.
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Correct, ...and it is true :)
That would make a nice community Thanksgiving dinner. Plenty for all.
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ReplyDeleteDoes this mean if we invent a time machine and go back in time to the Jurassic era, that dinosaurs are clean to eat?
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Absolutely! AND...............they will taste like CHICKEN! :)
I do not believe that science or evolution kills the Bible. It does inform and modify the ways in which we regard the Bible, by obliterating the possibilities of fundamentalism.and inerrancy. There are other things which we discuss from time to time that also point us in that direction. But, above all things, the Bible is still a book of great wisdom, one that flexibly adapts as humans become more educated over the thousands of years which it covers. It deals with the primary flaws of human nature which are mankind being driven by his emotions and appetites. It contains biographical snapshots of characters which serve as both good and bad examples of human behavior. It provides redemption from the results of human flaws, so that the guilt incurred over a lifetime of imperfection will not weigh down, cripple or destroy humans in the end. It sets forth guiding moral and ethical principles for a tribe, nation, or empire, principles which if followed will bring order and prosperity. It informs us of the presence of beings greater than ourselves. Most importantly, it gives us a Savior!
ReplyDeleteSeen this way, the Bible also protects us from those of our fellow humans who would amass or collect other humans, and who would use their own private theories and interpretations to control and exploit us, to rob us of our blessings, and to convince us that our lives are worthless without them. It warns us and removes the controls of those self-aggrandizers who would use prophecy to lie to us and manipulate us to their advantage.
Three immortal precepts from the Bible rise above this discussion: 1) The Golden Rule, 2) The Beatitudes, and 3) The Two Great Commandments of the Lord. If everyone were guided by these precepts, in the words once sung by Sam Cook, "What a wonderful world this would be!"
Just a new thot to consider:
ReplyDelete“This is fundamental to bird physiology,” Quick explained. “It’s really strange that no one realized this before. The position of the thigh bone and muscles in birds is critical to their lung function, which in turn is what gives them enough lung capacity for flight.”
In the next phase of research, the scientists examined whether theropod dinosaurs’ skeletons would have allowed a similar pulmonary system. But the evidence shows that skeletal differences—including a mobile femur—meant dinosaurs couldn’t have given rise to birds. “Theropod dinosaurs had a moving femur and therefore could not have had a lung that worked like that in birds. Their abdominal air sac, if they had one, would have collapsed. That undercuts a critical piece of supporting evidence for the dinosaur-bird link,” Ruben
Ruben, that of course was very interesting, but please identify your source material for those who would like to investigate further..
DeleteYou do realize that there are 57 current soecies of birds which are incapable of flight? Everyone knows about penguins, ostriches and kiwis, but there are many others as well. Most of them are native to the southern hemisphere.
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ReplyDeleteI am not Ruben. That was the Scientist who made the quote.
By the way, what is your source for the Heinz 57 birds?
Let’s see, there is the internet, google, books galore on the subject of evolution, dinosaurs, etc. self discovery is stronger than pablum feeding.
Also, lots of good books disproving and/or dismantling evolutionary fantasies.
Someone a while back said our resident atheist was proof the Bible was true and that the Creator existed. I would like to see more about that. Might be interesting.
When I first read your quotation, I took what you posted seriously, but vaguely recalled that the penguin and the ostrich do not fly. A light bulb went off as I realized that if we have birds incapable of flight today, it is totally logical that some prehistoric birds would not have been able to fly, and their non-flying would not necessarily mean that they were not the ancient ancestors of today's birds. That might simply make them transitional. Non-evolutionists have often cited a lack of intermediate or transitional species from the fossil record in their efforts to disprove or discredit evolution. I Googled "Non Flying Birds" to confirm my memories about the ostrich and penguin and so many sites came up naming so many species that I immediately felt foolish not knowing that there were so many species of birds incapable of flight. I spent considerable time clicking on all the sites which were identifiable as having been produced by ornithologists.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for assuming that you were Ruben. I'm just not accustomed to a footnote or reference intended to support a quotation being a single name. Is Ruben kind of like Cher, Prince, or Beyonce?
Yes happy thanksgiving everyone.
ReplyDeleteJust my thoughts below, I hope no one here thinks I’m being a turkey, lol.
There are many similarities between birds and reptiles as there are between any two classes of walking vertebrates, but the differences between them are substantial as well.
One of the most striking similarities between birds and many dinosaurs is the orientation of three fused bones, ilium, ischium and pubis that make up the hip bone. But….
Birds have a unique respiratory system that is the most efficient of all vertebrae. Birds unlike reptiles have a high metabolic rate which requires efficient respiration. The structure of the avian lung is unique among all vertebrates, and although small it is the most efficient vertebrate lung. Birds do not have tidal respiration like mammals and reptiles, where air is alternately inhaled and exhaled from the lung. Airflow in the avian lung is continuous and unidirectional.
Birds have many distinctive features that distinguish them from dinosaurs. Birds are homeothermic with a high metabolism and high core body temperature. Birds also walk and balance from the knee not the hip as bipedal dinosaurs.
They are a distinct species in their own way and rather different from what is perceived as have come from a common ancestor.
University of California Museum of Paleontology ‘Are birds really dinosaurs?’. October 2018
Dustin Welbourne ‘There’s no such thing as reptiles any more and here’s why’ 2014
‘Taking Wing Archaeopteryx and the evolution of bird flight’ P Shipman 1998
‘Birds of stone,Chinese avian fossils from the age of dinosaurs’ John Hopkins University Press 2016
‘Anatomical and ecological evidence of endothermy in Dinosaurs’ Robert Bakker
‘Feathered non avian dinosaurs from North America’ Science 2012
Theropod nonavian dinosaurs are believed to be the evolutionary ancestors of birds but Chinese scientists have found fossils of avialans, which clearly have pennaceous feathers up to 160 million years older, much older than theropod dinosaurs.
What we can be sure of is this debate on birds will continue and will be as entertaining as theological debates.
Happy thanksgiving folks.
Let's get Aron Ra involved in this discussion. Hey, Dennis, can you make the call?
ReplyDeleteYou guys don't mind a little long hair, do ya?
Eh, the whole "wishbone" thing is more indicative of intelligent design.
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