Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders

Thursday, December 14, 2023

Dave Pack: Herbert W. Armstrong Was Not Nearly As Usable By God As We Used To Think

 



Doctrinal Precisionish

 

The Restored Church of God once valued the concept of doctrinal precision and stability. Pastor General David C. Pack used to care about the nuanced details of Scripture to preach what the Bible taught accurately.

 

But for the last few years…not so much. This is especially true regarding beefing up Third Tithe offerings and implementing New Moon ceremonies. They want to stress what the Bible says while simultaneously ignoring what the Bible says.

 

"The Greatest Unending Story!" Parts 480-483 are a self-contained cycle of doctrinal establishment and whiplash debunkery. For David C. Pack, it IS, and it IS NOT are both correct answers. It just depends on the timing.

 

 

The topic of New Moons is sure to be THE hot topic at RCG socials until Dave walks it back into the cardboard box tucked on that dusty high shelf in the garage. But, in the meantime, during Part 480, he had to squeeze past another reminder that Herbert W. Armstrong of The Worldwide Church of God was Not-Nearly-As-Usable-By-God-As-We-Used-To-Think. How could a man claiming to be an apostle during his lifetime die misunderstanding so many of the things he taught and still be considered an apostle?

 

Dave may want to chew on that one for a bit.

 

Part 480 – November 18, 2023

@ 1:09:38 Now, it's all this. It's the proverbial it’s just easy-peasy. It’s simplicity. We had a couple people quit the church, “I’m not gonna keep New Moons. Mr. Armstrong didn’t teach it.” Mr. Armstrong said it was optional.

 

Yet, Dave is making it mandatory due to “because I say so” theology.

 

@ 1:09:51 So, then maybe they shoulda just stayed and not kept New Moons. They’da been in bad shape, but still. But, no, the the the that the the they're not they're not gonna stay.

 

Since when is that an option in The Restored Church of God? Dave must not have been in the room for Eager Edward Winkfield’s New Moon Smilefest. There was no mention of compliance wiggle room for the more discerning members.

 

If some members fled the biblical corruption and prophetic insanity, that means not all of them are entirely asleep or spiritually destroyed yet. Maybe there is hope for more to wake up and walk out of the religious horror show in Wadsworth.

 

@ 1:09:59 Even though New Moons is mentioned. What’d I read? Twenty times in between Sabbaths and Holy Days. You’re to observe them. Forever.

 

Also, twenty times NOT commanded. Forever once the Kingdom gets here. God willing, I shall be observing New Moons when Jesus Christ returns. But not now.

 

@ 1:10:08 “No, Mr. Armstrong didn’t teach it.” Mr. Armstrong didn’t teach any of these Kingdoms. So, you know, let’s just get rid of ‘em.

 

Dave is accidentally on to something here. Usually, his mocking and misspeaks tend to be truthful when his declarations slide onto the false side of the reality partition.

 

Then, Dave projects what a dead man will say to him after he is resurrected to learn of the trashing his “not-really” protégé did to a majority of his doctrines.

 

@ 1:10:16 I’muh-nuh see him someday, and he would say to me, I know what he’d say ‘cause I spent so many hours talking about prophecy with him. More than any other man.

 

David C. Pack was not privy to Herbert W. Armstrong’s phone schedule. Dave has no idea who HWA spoke to when, how often, or for how long. This is a fantasy from the corrupted imagination of a sad little man who so desperately wants to be relevant to the legacy of The Worldwide Church of God. At the same time, he systematically dissolves their doctrines. He reduces his "Father in the Gospel" to a religious footnote who partially understood the Sabbath, Holy Days, tithing, interracial marriage, and a version of British Israelism.

 

@ 1:10:25 He would say, “You were you learned all those things and didn’t have the guts to teach them?” That’s what he’d say to me. And I’d say, “Sir, you’re right.” Except, I wouldn’t say that.

 

Dave just went to the Witch of Endor to summon the spirit of Samuel to consult with him from beyond the grave. Dave just knows what HWA would tell him. This sounds more like Dave’s conscience is gnawing at him. He just has to believe a lie in order to sleep at night to alleviate that awful feeling in his gut for slaughtering HWA’s doctrinal legacy.

 

So, in Dave's mind, Herbert W. Armstrong wants Dave to dismantle his doctrines, counter decades of the church's "administrative judgments," give excuses why HWA was unable or not allowed to understand things Dave discovered and remove the keystones of his ministry. Dave is granting himself HWA’s approval posthumously.

 

@ 1:10:35 I couldn’t face my own human father if he really understood that man. If I didn’t have the guts to teach those things.

 

The guts to teach things and get them wrong. So says Parts 480-483.

 

Davey is such a brave little boy. He makes such wonderful doodies in the toilet and not in his pants. But now, he displays his doodies on the table in the Main Hall of Headquarters.

 

@ 1:10:43 I knew that we would lose two or three or five people.

 

Quite frankly, I did not think Dave would lose any over this. If people stayed for his assimilation of titles of Jesus Christ and the White Horse of Revelation 6 is the true Jesus, not the false one, then I thought those left in RCG would buy anything. I wonder how the remainder of the hold-outs will fare when sacred names come to The Restored Church of God.

 

@ 1:10:46 Maybe there'll be some still dumb enough to quit because we go back to Four Kingdoms, or they think over New Moons. “I’m not gonna keep another one.” I made a little comment on Tuesday here that I doubted we’d keep another New Moon together as we are and I still doubt that. That much I’ll tell you.

 

The New Moon Dave doubted happened on December 13 at some point. You can check the ccg.org website if you are burning to know the exact moment science proved David C. Pack wrong again.

 

 

Dave returned for Part 481 but was not quite done driving over Herbert W. Armstrong's body with his short bus.

 

Part 481 – November 21, 2023

@ 54:11 This is the most stunning stuff in the Bible. You can understand why I battled it. You know, 31,102 verses’ll do that to you when you’re starting with the Millennium as your foundation.

 

What Dave was really saying was, “Thanks a lot, Herbert W. Armstrong. You made my life so much harder than it needed to be.”

 

@ 54:26 So, I thank God (again) for Mr. Armstrong. He saw all kinds of things.

 

Herbert W. Armstrong—He saw all kinds of things.

Just not the RIGHT things.™

 

According to David C. Pack in "The Greatest Untold Story!" Series Herbert W. Armstrong's "all kinds of things" were untrue.

 

HWA mistakenly thought the church did not need to observe New Moons.

HWA mistakenly thought the Seventh-Year of Release applied to Third Tithe.

HWA mistakenly thought Adolf Hitler was the Sixth King.

HWA mistakenly thought the Branch was Jesus Christ.

HWA mistakenly thought That Prophet was Jesus Christ.

HWA mistakenly thought the God of the Old Testament was Jesus Christ.

HWA mistakenly thought the Messenger of the Covenant was Jesus Christ.

HWA mistakenly thought the White Horse of Revelation 6 was false Christianity.

 

This list is woefully incomplete with what David C. Pack teaches that Herbert W. Armstrong got “sincerely” wrong. For those looking to find a church that upholds what The Worldwide Church of God once taught, you better move along. It is NOT The Restored Church of God.

 

 

In the pursuit of the midst of the years and when a year actually begins, Cheshvan 1 lost favor in Dave’s eyes.

 

Part 483 – December 2, 2023

@ 09:11 Well, it’s not Cheshvan 1. But, Cheshvan 1 (you will see) absolutely mimics (and that’s the best word I can use) it mimics dozens of things that seem that to that that seem to point to it when they do not. Cheshvan 1 comes almost [chuckles] as an impostor that maybe was designed to slow us down till we got close to when God was really gonna carry out His word.

 

David C. Pack’s god is a deceiver. It uses trickery and deception because Dave works too hard and fast. That lying god needed a ruse to cool Dave’s jets until it was ready to spring into action.

David C. Pack discovered that years are reckoned by the earth’s rotation around the sun instead of the lunar cycles. This means he finally caught up with third graders and thought he deserved a cookie.

 

@ 1:11:39 I never could get it right, but I was right that we would someday…we would. Cheshvan 1 does not end the year, but it does wonderfully mimic the end of the year, though.

 

He could never get it right but thought one day he would. That is the true theology of The Restored Church of God. With enough doctrinal monkeys on enough prophetic typewriters, someday David C. Pack will compose a complete and accurate version of the Mystery of God, the lock on the magic chest will pop open, and the rainbow unicorn will spring forth and carry him into the clouds of Never-Never Land.

 

Never is right.

 

The implication for the shift from Cheshvan 1 to Tevet 10 has a financial impact on the brethren of The Restored Church of God. This tiny Third Tithe mistake favors the coffers of The Business and Accounting Office. Do not ask for a refund.

 

@ 1:23:55 So, now, if time went on I would have to tell the brethren, “Brethren, can I just tell you you count your Third Tithes from the Winter Solstice. Thank you if you began to pay ‘em. And I’ll just tell the whole church, our Third Tithe income exploded. God’s people are listening.

 

But not reading their Bibles.

 

Deuteronomy 14:28

At the end of three years you shall bring forth all the tithe of your increase the same year, and shall lay it up within your gates:

 

You pay Third Tithe at the end of the third year. Not throughout, like RCG wants. Following a verse to the letter is subjective to administrative judgments and not about doctrinal precision when it does not serve their purpose.

 

@ 1:24:12 [laughs] I mean, it’s a unbelievable. Way over what I thought it would be. We tried to project it and it more than doubled what I projected.

 

Why is Dave projecting Third Tithe if it is solely for the widow, orphan, stranger, and Levite? He smells the end of the fiscal year just over the hill and cannot wait to unethically misappropriate those funds to spend on "whatever we'd do."

 

David C. Pack is broadcasting to the brethren of The Restored Church of God that he is a thief. He is counting those Third Tithe eggs before they hatch. The Common cash grab is now compounded with the deceptively-acquired Third Tithe cash grab. The financial ship is sinking, and he needs as many buckets to bail water as possible.

 

While the foolishly zealous in RCG may have been considering all those widows and orphans and strangers inside the gates of RCG who are finally going to get a dry, warm bed, clean clothes, and a hot bowl of soup instead of freezing and starving if not for their blindly obedient generosity, Dave is chuckling all the way to the bank. You all got hoodwinked with your eyes open.

 

Dave’s Because-I-Say-So doctrinal approach is literally paying off.

 

@ 1:24:19 So, God’s people are listening. I apologize. Sorta chalk it up to the urge. You didn’t have to do it. [smiling] You had to came a little early because the Winter Solstice which is the start of the year of when the harvest is over, that’s the season of harvest.

 

When it comes to money with The Restored Church of God, error only favors one direction: In. With New Moons and Third Tithe, having doctrinal precisionish is good enough assuming the checks clear, and they can hold off on putting a Campus house up for sale.

 

As long as the brethren of The Restored Church of God allow David C. Pack and the hireling enablers at Headquarters to continue lying to them, lying to them, they will.


Marc Cebrian

See: Doctrinal Precisionish

4 comments:

  1. It must be difficult for most of the members of RCG to see and realize that Dave is just another type of Tkach! It is just unreal how you could have someone who murders the beauty of the English language in his every day speech patterns claiming to have arrived at doctrinal precision. It's not as if he's trying to be cool by using inner city lingo to try to relate to youthful types who grew up on hip hop, either. He talks like a Midwestern farmer.

    Everything about this man screams Kook-a-boo. HWA's empire was growing right up until the day he died. Dave's daily prophecies of Jesus' imminent return have perfectly coincided with the cessation of growth of his empire. In that way, his prophecies have become nothing more than a smoke screen or deflection.

    He's pretty cavalier about the people who leave his church, too. According to their doctrines, those people are now on the path to the Lake of Fire! But, no sense of grief or angst for Dave. It's all "Oh well!"

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  2. ¨The Restored Church of God once valued the concept of doctrinal precision and stability. Pastor General David C. Pack used to care about the nuanced details of Scripture to preach what the Bible taught accurately.¨

    The Restored Church of God NEVER valued the concept of doctrinal precision .. as shown by teaching that we live under the Old Covenant.

    Doctrinal precision has us living under the NEW COVENANT.

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  3. Very concerning to see God's people exposed to such nonsense.

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  4. Dave has taken off his mask and shown to reasonable folks that he has fallen off a moral cliff. But how many other ACOGs leaders and their minions are still wearing their Pharisaic masks and are at heart just like Dave?
    All evil people share common traits, just like predators in the animal kingdom.
    Dave doesn't have a monopoly on anything.

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