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Saturday, January 14, 2023

Dual-minded Prophet Releases Another Dream to Prove His Legtimacy

 


The dual-minded self-appointed Great Bwana to Africa released another dream today that he believes PROVES he is the one true legitimate leader of the COG movement.

Have you ever noticed that none of Bob's dreams or the dreams of a few of his crazy followers are ever focused upon Jesus? Instead, they are all focused on Bob, the greatest narcissist the Church of God has ever had. The focus is always entirely upon himself, never Jesus, but himself.

Christians since the first century understood their focus is to be upon Christ, not hundreds and hundreds of useless topics that are used by Bob to distract members away from their true focus. This constant barrage of doom and gloom and conspiracy theories quickly takes its toll on his followers and any who listens to him.

With Bob, the focus is always on himself or worldly things and never on Christ. When you listen to him you can quickly become overwhelmed with doubt due to all the fear he keeps his followers constantly living in. 

Here is the latest dream that is so over the top it's ridiculous:

01/14/23 a.m. Received the following in two emails from James Martenet related to dreams:

About month after FoT 2020 ... would be the first ... I was in a field of wheat that stretched to all horizons. It was a sunny day during harvest, and the wheat was golden, beautifully golden. There was a master of the harvest on a wagon, and there were reapers, the man on the wagon had a very black beard, was fit and had perfect teeth, and smiled broadly.

The reapers were also similar to him, and they all sang a song in the dream I understood, it was so beautiful. The reapers and the master of the harvest seemed superhuman, they were perfect of form. There were other normal folks, many whom I  recognize from CCOG, and all of us had bags to carry the wheat the reapers were cutting, to the wagon. Some had large bags, others small, and some had holes in their bags. Some had bags that were empty, and they were not helping, just being busybodies, getting in the way of the ones who were working, but they could not stop the workers who were working from accomplishing the work of carrying the bags, even if they tried to…those working just kept right on being productive.

Bob Thiel had a tremendous load, it was ridiculous in size, so large that I wondered, how could he really get anything done with that tremendous load. But he was. Meanwhile some others also had large burdens, Shirley Gestro was one of them. The Master of the harvest asked why are not all the workers working? Why do some have empty bags? And he kept reminding us of the time.

He was asking me. I said I do not know what they are doing. He asked why are not more helping ... Bob Thiel..., then directly, why am I not helping more? I had a bag with a hole in it,  I asked what can I do, and he told me to use my talents, and to get to work, while there is still daylight. Then my bag was fixed and full, and it kept getting fuller as those of us who had full bags placed them on the wagon, where the master of the harvest smiled at us and said “good job”. The Sun was in the afternoon, it was before sunset, but it was definably setting. The Man said, “work while you still can”, and I woke up. ...

The last time {I had the harvest dream} was in the spring of this year {2022}. Each of the dreams was slightly different: the sun was moving closer to sunset. In the last one the sun had moved closer to sunset, and in ... them {both} there was a sense of urgency.

Basically, James Martenet took that repeated dream to mean that he should support what God is doing in the CCOG. He has been assisting in video and radio spots since 2022. And yes, we are getting closer to the end.

Jesus said:

2 The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. (Luke 10:2)

Do your part to support the work and also pray for more laborers for the harvest.

If Bob really was a true minister of God he would stop talking about himself and how magnificent his work is and focus entirely on following Christ. The problem is he cannot. It has always been about himself from the very first day when he started his rebellion. Even Rod Meredith understand that when he said the following about Bob:

"I have seen that you have had great difficulty in learning the lessons of deep humility that God wants all of us to learn. With very few exceptions, nearly everyone who knows you has clearly seen that—although you have a quick mind and great energy—you have nearly always thought very highly of yourself and of your own opinions. You have offended or at least “bugged” dozens of Church members with this very self-important, pushy and “know-it-all” attitude and approach."

"Bob, your own remarkable vanity and “dreams of greatness” have greatly affected your ability to think clearly many times. Over the last few years, many of us have noted that you have begun to think of yourself in terms that are not realistic."

"...others express concern about your egotistical ideas that you believe you are a prophet or one of the two witnesses." 
 
"Then you go to January 2009 where you say I told you that if I was raised to the office of apostle, I was “considering ordaining Bob Thiel as a prophet.” That, Bob, is simply not true! For I have never, at any time—considered ordaining you as a prophet. This is not because I don’t “like” you, but rather because I have understood for years your tendency to bring in “odd” or “Catholic prophesies” or put unusual twists on scripture in such a way that no true prophet of God would ever do." 
 
"Mr. Apartian did not think of you as a prophet. You can easily ascertain that by talking to Mrs. Apartian, Mr. Ames, Dr. Winnail and all of us. Bob, since you have this powerful feeling of “greatness” you often “read into” what anyone says. This kind of idea of you being a prophet that is pounding away in the back of your mind is once again causing you to twist your own memory of what is said by others." 
 
"Mr. Bonjour has confirmed he in no way was intending to ask God to make you a prophet! Yet, because of your vivid imagination and fervent desire to exalt yourself to that role, you “took it” that way—as you do so with many other things."

"By “reading into” things that others tell you the idea that you might be a prophet, you have deceived yourself—willingly of course—so that your mind is now virtually “fixated” on the idea that you, are a “prophet” of God."  Exceprts from "Rod Meredith's Letter To The Ministry Denouncing Bob Thiel" December 28th, 2012


 


PCG Hiding Gerald Flurry's Heath Issues From Members…He Can No Longer Stand


 

King Gerald Flurry is going to have a hard time anointing Jesus Christ when He returns to Petra to sit upon Gerry's coronation stone so He can be anointed King of Kings when Gerry can't stand to anoint him.

Why is it that the church is filled with so many raving lunatics as it is in 2023? Dave Pack, Bob Thiel, Ron Weinland, and Gerald Flurry. Can the church get any crazier?

Exit and Support Network states:

Gerald Flurry’s Bad Health Is Being Hid From Members:


January 11, 2023 
 
The PCG inner circle know how bad Gerald Flurry’s health is, but are hiding it from the “church.”
His recent falls and inability to stand, or even give messages, are what some are saying may be the result of a suspected stroke. There have been other health incidents which have been occurring during the second part of 2022 that paint a bad picture. He also is no longer flying on the PCG’s private plane–a massive expense supposedly to allow Flurry to reach the world (even though the jet has been used for the kids to attend their dancing competitions). 
 
Flurry’s real health problems being known will be a huge upset as he has built himself up as “king over kings,” destined to personally anoint Christ with the HWA stone at the “place of safety.” (Yeah, it’s as crazy as it sounds). 
 
The whole thrust of the HWA stone, king of kings, royal lineage, failed Trump prophecy, is causing the PCG to crumble. Hiding the truth of his health is treating members like mushrooms. –[name withheld]


Friday, January 13, 2023

Oh No! I've Done It Again!!!! Little Double-Minded Self-Appointed False Prophet Melts Down Over Banned

 


Well, I have done it again. I have somehow gone and got our highly favored Great Bwana to Africa all hot and bothered. The daggers of self-righteous indignation are flashing from that little brick storefront in Grover Beach right now.

I find it fascinating how the little guy which believes he is God's most important Church of God leader in the history of the church, so important that he was part of the divine plan of the ages crafted before creation itself to rise up in these perilous end times to lead the one true remnant church which preaches the pure undiluted truth of God, can be so easily pissed off. Yet, here we are. Again.

This time I am a tool of Satan being used to deliberately keep people out of the Kingdom of God. But, it's not just me, it is many of you rebellious Laodiceans that DARE to mock him and make fun of his self-created myths he pawns off as truths. We are such a rebellious lot that we are "the accusers of the brethren".

Some of Satan’s allies at Banned by HWA website continue to post lies about those of us in Continuing Church of God (CCOG) as well as other COGs. 
 
That is consistent with Satan’s hope as he is called the “accuser of the brethren” which he does do day and night (Revelation 12:10), so it is no great surprise if his lying human assistants spread lies regularly.

Beto Bob believes that Satan is using us to keep people away from the one true church he believes he is running. His is the true Christian faith!

If you are not part of a COG (Church of God), Satan hopes you will dismiss the true Christian faith as a false cult–this is something he and his followers have done throughout history.

So sure of his self-appointment and self-ordination as a COG leader and prophet, he says that scripture itself tells how COG members and former members will denounce him: 

Jesus, Himself, said that people who claimed to believe the Bible often denounced God’s prophets:

11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:11-12)

The problem right off the bat here is that Bob Thiel is NOT a prophet of God. That is abundantly clear to all here. We know he is no more prophet than Dave Pack or Gerald Flurry are. In fact, Beto Bob is EXACTLY like Pack and Flurry.

Beto is particularly perturbed by this:

Notice the following evil that was posted at Banned by HWA:

Bob Thiel has lied to us from day one about God speaking to him in dreams, that he is the only COG doing the work, that he is a prophet, that he is Elisha, Elijah, Zephaniah, Joshua, and many other appropriated personalities (about the only thing left to call himself is Legion). Has Bob ever apologized and will he EVER apologize for lying to us? 
 
Now the above is false witness from Gary Leonard (the webmaster of the above site and the one who posted that).


Everything about Bwana Bob, from his rejection by the Living Church of God to his own self-appointment, has been one falsehood after another. Even Rod Meredith realized towards the end that Bob was mentally unfit to lead any church and that's why he publicly rebuked him from the pulpit, ending any chance that Bob could draw LCG members into his little group. After Meredith's very public rebuke, all the other COG's turned their back on him too. Every Church of God Bob Thiel was in refused  to ordain him, But, it's all my fault,  and you demon-possessed followers here that listen to me and also join in the ridicule:

Satan hopes you will believe lies.

One of the Ten Commandments is, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” (Exodus 20:16).

Yet repeatedly, Gary Leonard has borne false witness.

There is no point in me, Bob Thiel, apologizing for telling the truth.


All of you agents of Satan here that believe me need to REPENT!  NOW!

Gary Leonard and those who believe his lies need to repent.

Bwana Bob then has to start in on his greatest myth ever, the Gaylyn Bonjour blessings. Beto Bob sees these prayers by Bonjour as a sure sign from God that he needed to split off from LCG and form his own church. Bonjour never had any such intention in mind, but Beto says he did.

The truth is on December 15, 2011, LCG minister Gaylyn Bonjour, while laying hands on me, was moved by the Holy Spirit to pray that God would grant me a “double portion” of His Spirit, which Gaylyn Bonjour said was reminiscent of the passing of the mantle from Elijah to Elisha as recorded in 2 Kings 2:9-13. He has always publicly concurred with me that is what happened.

Beto Bob then says this:

Satan hopes that YOU will be lazy and not believe. Satan hopes YOU will not take the time to check out the truth on this. Satan does NOT want YOU to accept that God really has been providing and fulfilling dreams in the 21st century.

A better translation this should read:

Satan hopes that YOU will be lazy and not recognize that Bob Thiel is a liar and a false prophet. YOU will not take the time to check out the truth on this and instead swallow his lies. Satan does NOT want YOU to accept that God has no need of self-appointed little prophets like Bob blaspheming Christ and ignoring all that he accomplished.

Beto Bob then accuses those who read here of this:

Satan wants YOU to think that there are no serious differences between the legitimate COGs so not being part of CCOG is fine. 
 
Satan wants YOU, like most Christians these days, to be Laodicean and not see if these things are so?  
 
Why? 
 
Because he knows Jesus said for unrepentant Laodicean Christians, “I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing” (Revelation 3:16-17).

Bob claims unrepentant Laodiceans who can't tell the difference between the COG groups and Bwana Bob's highly chosen group are deceived by Satan. Bob's problem lies in the fact that we can tell the difference. We have, Bob. We have! And, you have been left by the wayside. Irrelevant. Insignificant.

Beto then launches into his second favorite mythical fantasy, his dream, and the dreams of others. 

The bulk of end time Christians do not truly believe that the New Testament shows that in the end of the last days God will provide dreams to His most faithful. God proceeded the start of the Philadelphia era with a dream to a woman and the start of the CCOG with a dream to a woman.


None of Beto's dreams ever involved Christ at any time, just a bunch of crazy followers hyped up with make-believe hysteria as they try and legitimize Beto's power grab. Big bad meanie Satan wants all of you to discount Beto Bob's dreams. When you do so you become UNSTABLE!

Satan does not want you to take inspired confirmed dreams seriously. He wants you opposed, or at best lukewarm, to that biblical idea. Satan wants you to have enough doubts about God and His promises so that you will be “a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways” (James 1:8).

Beto continues:

Those who believe the false assertions at the Banned by HWA website are among those that love and practices lies. 
 
Those who do so should repent. 
 
Jesus taught:

44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. (Matthew 5:44-45) 
 
Gary Leonard remains in my prayers.

Well, thanks Beto! Never will I turn down prayers! 

The Great Bwana ends his temper tantrum with this:

If you are not part of CCOG, Satan wants you to stay away from it. 
 
He does not want you to be dedicated or noble enough to see if what is written here (and in the related links) is really true. 
 
Can you accept the truth or do you prefer the lying assertions from sites like Banned by HWA?

If you are NOT part of the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" then God wants you to STAY AWAY! If you're a member, then God wants you to LEAVE! Your salvation depends upon it! Do not accept the lies and distortions of Bwana Bob Thiel nor give credence to his dreams.

  



 

 



 

Dave Pack: Great Tribulation Begins this Evening!


 


Tick-Tock Tevet

 

Today is Friday the 13th, and that is scary business here in Wadsworth, but not due to superstition.

 

The next inevitable prophetic disaster for David C. Pack of The Restored Church God is only hours away.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 1:01:32 …the 21st of this month [Tevet – January 14]…the 21st begins the Great Tribulation.

 

Tevet 21 begins at 5:21 PM EDT tonight and ends at 5:22 PM tomorrow. The entire RCG membership will partake in the latest embarrassment for twenty-four hours and one minute.

 

Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

 

The Three Shepherds of Zechariah 11 did not die last weekend. What should that mean?

 

@ 1:17:08 If these guys die in the next three days, we’ve removed all doubt. And God would know this, and I can't tell because it's so cryptic. If they die in the next three days, nobody will doubt that Christ is coming.

 

Brethren in RCG are swimming in doubt. And with good reason. They recently learned Dave’s god has been playing practical jokes on him and the entire church—Major doubts.

 

Their Pestor General has not shown his face since January 4—Bookoo doubts.

 

Combine this with the Pathetic Update from last Friday—Mega-Uber doubts.

 

 

Prophecy Update – Friday, January 6, 2023

Brethren, the process of learning STILL continues! The reason we pointed you toward tonight is that numerous verses definitively lined up for a Sabbath. Some likely come to mind. That said, it is almost certainly not this Sabbath. The many timing elements explained in Pt 413 remain strong, and in some cases grew stronger! Mr. Pack may lay these out in a brief Pt 414 next Tuesday before the Sabbath.

 

 

“the process of learning STILL continues!”

 

That is a nothing statement. Even Jesus Christ learned by His experience in the flesh. Their intent was to imply knowledge but not provide it. The whole paragraph is an Imply Party.

 

“it is almost certainly not this Sabbath”

 

Ha ha. No kidding.

 

Headquarters got in front of the failure. Again. A failure they knew was coming. How did they know? The same way everyone else should. David C. Pack is not being led by God to end the Mystery of God by giving “The Greatest Unending Story!” He is a false apostle and false prophet from whom the brethren should flee.

 

“many timing elements…remain strong, and in some cases grew stronger”

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is a false belief based on fantasy. One week later, those timing elements evaporated, revealing they were never there in the first place.

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is the doubt that the Packian Triad of Fraud know what they are doing. The Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy rush their little hearts out to make the puzzle pieces fit with scissors and glue. Puppet Master Dave tugs the strings, and they gleefully hop and bop at will.

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is the denial the Headquarters enablers exert upon themselves as they sit at their desks doing busy work keeping the duplicity machine afloat. They tell themselves they are “patiently waiting for Christ” while “doing The Work,” but their conscience tells them otherwise.

 

What remains strong and grew stronger is the brethren’s confusion and turmoil. They know things are not “well” inside RCG. They know things are not “well” in their congregations. But they do not know what to do despite the obvious answer being to flee.

 

“Mr. Pack may lay this out…next Tuesday”

 

Yeah. That didn’t happen.

 

No-Show Dave must have been too busy wandering the halls playing 52 Pickup with anyone passing by.

 

What another humiliation for Church Administration. All the wincing, eye-rolling, head-shaking, and forehead-slapping on the second floor make the office look like a live-action anime festival.

 

Someone was calculated enough to insert the one-word escape hatch.

 

“may”

 

This is the most-used safe word in all of The Restored Church of God.

 

We MAY have more time. We MAY have more proofs. We MAY have more math.

 

But the reality is Jesus Christ WILL NOT return on Tevet 21, and David C. Pack WILL NOT be right…ever.

 

 

The scheming of Part 414 is already underway as the clock tick-tocks towards Tevet 21 tonight. This will be David C. Pack’s 38th prophetic date blunder since June last year, making it an official RCG church tradition. I plan on having a cake made for the 50th.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 1:25:09 …a nuclear blast wouldn’t change me…from the simple fact that it's ten days, seven years, a thousand years, and winter. You can't change that.

 

Anticipate him changing that. The ten days will move as they have before because he needs them to shift to keep the crazy train rolling "on track."

 

Time is the mortal enemy of David C. Pack. Time is the mocker and scoffer. Time proves him to be a biblical sorcerer. Time is the murderer of his words.

 

Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

 

For those inside The Restored Church of God who are confused and do not know what to do, reread “There Came a Falling Away” and “Is ‘That Prophet’ Alive Today?” Listen to the three-part “30 Reasons to Follow the Truth” available in the Member Services Sermon Library.

 

David C. Pack then explains who and what David C. Pack is now.

 


Marc Cebrian

See: Tick-Tock Tevet

True Worldwide Church of God Members Need To Leave All Other COG's Right NOW!!!!!!!!!

 


It is about time all the Laodiceans warming seats got off their butts and joined the one true church led by the Kitchen brothers. Forget Bob Thiel and Dave Pack! No one needs to follow these liars. You must join up with the Kitchen brothers to secure your rightful place in the TRUE Worldwide Church of God they now claim to run. After all, they have stolen all of the old Worldwide Church of God's literature and claim it and the WCG name as their own. Trust them!


When people share and promote the truth, I really do rejoice!
These HWA libraries and collections are really property of the original title owners - The Worldwide Church of God.
That is why most refer to materials used in these libraries are stated as being the publications of the Worldwide Church of God or Herbert W Armstrong or Ambassador College.
That is the owner of title. And I'd like to keep ownership with the original title owners.
Now Mr. Armstrong stated clearly how the Worldwide Church of God was organized.
The Worldwide Church of God was in governing capacity over the various organizations. Organizations like the Pasadena based "WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD, INC" and "AMBASSADOR COLLEGE", or "AMBASSADOR INTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION".
These organizations, were UNDER the umbrella and governance of the Church.
Now operating and administrating (on earth under Christ)both Church and Organizations, we're men of leadership who answered to and followed the apostle of Jesus Christ.
Since Mr. Armstrong's death, some came into the leadership of those organizations and kicked Jesus Christ out, and God out, and created a new church where they did the leading. It became a church and organizations of men. Their Church? Grace Communion International. Their organizations gave benefit to their beneficiaries.
The WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD, INC organization gave benefit to the beneficiary, which was the Worldwide Church of God. The same with Ambassador College and the Foundation.
Satan did not want those organizations to aid and benefit the church at all. So he seized it.
The Church is a spiritual, unincorporated body of believers. Revelation 12:13 explains our time when God's people have been persecuted.
Today, our membership are attending with other organizations.
All I will say now on that is, COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE! This is the Philadelphia era, and we have become laodicean in attitude and have allowed others to overrun us and we let them rule. I know we love our brethren. God's Word says we do. However...we have to be seperated and not be led away into a different identity.
Different works are dividing us by way of different identities. One says we are of the UCG, another says LCG, another COGWA and another RCG and another PCG etc etc etc.
It is dividing us. We collectively are the membership of the Worldwide Church of God!
We just now have to stand up and be counted among the ranks and make distinct where we stand and what we are identified as.

CGI: Adrian Davis Creates A New Gospel As Jesus Continues To Embarrass Them




What is the Gospel? Don't ask Adrian Davis!


If any of you had any doubts about the real dangers that the doctrine of Anglo-Israelism poses to the Gospel message, you should check out CGI's Pastor Adrian Davis's latest offering on the subject! The most recent installment of their Armor of God, What is the Gospel?, suggests that the Gospel is for and about Israel! In the almost half-hour program, Davis asserts that the Gospel (or Good News) is NOT about the teachings of Christ and his apostles! He also states that the Gospel is NOT the STORY of Christ's life and teachings as outlined in the first four books of the New Testament! According to Davis, the message is all about Israel and salvation through them! Does that sound like blasphemy to you? I hope so.

However, for those of you who may see some merit in Pastor Davis's message, buckle your seat belts and put on your big boy pants; because what follows will completely discredit his answer to the question (What is the Gospel?) and prove from the Scriptures that the Good News is ALL about Jesus Christ and salvation through him!

To give the devil his due, I do agree with Pastor Davis that the Greek word "eunangelion" which has traditionally been translated into English as "Gospel" means GOOD NEWS (see Blue Letter Bible's entry for Euangelion). We also agree that this "good news" is focused on the positive outcome of a seminal event in God's plan(s). Unfortunately, that's just about where our agreement ends!

According to Davis, the Gospel MUST: 1) be "this" gospel - the one Christ mentioned in Matthew 24:14 (wait until you hear what he thinks constitutes "this" gospel before you jump on his bandwagon), 2) be the same gospel that the forefathers heard (by this he means the ancient Israelites operating under the terms of the Old Covenant), and 3) be controversial (offensive - not well-received). After listing the elements of the message which he considers to be essential, Davis proceeded to assert that "If you're not keeping the Sabbath, how can you call yourself a Christian?" For Davis, the gospel that Jesus preached is synonymous with the message which Isaiah delivered to ancient Israel. "What's wrong with that?" you may be wondering. The problem is that Pastor Davis believes that this should be understood in the context in which Isaiah delivered it to the Israelites of old, not through the lens/filter of Jesus Christ and his teachings!

He begins with Christ's quotation of a passage from Isaiah during a synagogue service narrated in the fourth chapter of Luke's Gospel. We read there: "When he came to the village of Nazareth, his boyhood home, he went as usual to the synagogue on the Sabbath and stood up to read the Scriptures. The scroll of Isaiah the prophet was handed to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where this was written: 'The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, for he has anointed me to bring Good News to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim that captives will be released, that the blind will see, that the oppressed will be set free, and that the time of the Lord’s favor has come.' He rolled up the scroll, handed it back to the attendant, and sat down. All eyes in the synagogue looked at him intently. Then he began to speak to them. 'The Scripture you’ve just heard has been fulfilled this very day!'" (Verses 16-21, NLT)

The passage, of course, is found in the sixty-first chapter of the book of Isaiah. Unlike Christ, however, Davis didn't stop there, he included the rest of the passage. "Well, wasn't he just providing context?" you may be wondering. Let's look at the text and see how Pastor Davis employed it in his larger argument. We read: "To all who mourn in Israel, he will give a crown of beauty for ashes, a joyous blessing instead of mourning, festive praise instead of despair. In their righteousness, they will be like great oaks that the Lord has planted for his own glory. They will rebuild the ancient ruins, repairing cities destroyed long ago. They will revive them, though they have been deserted for many generations. Foreigners will be your servants. They will feed your flocks and plow your fields and tend your vineyards. You will be called priests of the Lord, ministers of our God. You will feed on the treasures of the nations and boast in their riches. Instead of shame and dishonor, you will enjoy a double share of honor. You will possess a double portion of prosperity in your land, and everlasting joy will be yours. For I, the Lord, love justice. I hate robbery and wrongdoing. I will faithfully reward my people for their suffering and make an everlasting covenant with them. Their descendants will be recognized and honored among the nations. Everyone will realize that they are a people the Lord has blessed." (Verses 3-9) To be clear, Adrian Davis believes that this passage establishes his contention that the Gospel is all about Israel and the restoration of their fortunes! In other words, Pastor Davis believes the same thing that the ancient Israelites believed about themselves - that their physical descent from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob entitled them to be ABOVE ALL of the other peoples of the earth!

You see, Mr. Davis and his allies in CGI believe that the English-speaking nations of the world are descended from two of the "lost" ten tribes of Israel. And, although he doesn't explicitly outline the doctrine of Anglo-Israelism in his remarks in this particular message, it is implied in everything he says and is strongly suggested in a number of more specific statements. For example, he acknowledges that there is currently a nation called Israel, but he goes on to make clear that God is NOT talking about that nation. Indeed, he specifically points to "wealthy" nations like the United States and Canada as being the modern representatives of the House of Israel. For Davis, Jerusalem will someday be the seat of salvation, and salvation will be open to the world through Israel!

Unfortunately, a number of passages which completely contradict Adrian's assertions about the nature of the Gospel are missing from his narrative/message. A number of these will come immediately to the mind of most of us. Let's look at just a few of them: "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6, ESV), "For God so loved the world <not just Israel>, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16), "And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12), "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek." (Romans 1:16), "But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8), "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23), "Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9) <let's not forget too that this epistle (Romans) was written to GENTILE Christians>, "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world." (I John 2:1-2), "And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life." (I John 5:11-12), etc., etc. In other words, salvation is through Jesus Christ - PERIOD!

The Apostle Paul wrote to the saints at Corinth that "Christ didn’t send me to baptize, but to preach the Good News—and not with clever speech, for fear that the cross of Christ would lose its power. The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God...Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never know him through human wisdom, he has used our foolish preaching to save those who believe. It is foolish to the Jews, who ask for signs from heaven. And it is foolish to the Greeks, who seek human wisdom. So, when we preach that Christ was crucified, the Jews are offended, and the Gentiles say it’s all nonsense. But to those called by God to salvation, both Jews and Gentiles, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. This foolish plan of God is wiser than the wisest of human plans, and God’s weakness is stronger than the greatest of human strength." (I Corinthians 1:17-25, NLT) In other words, Paul's Gospel message was ALL about Jesus Christ and salvation through HIM!

Although we have very different perspectives on the nature of the Gospel message found in the Old Testament, I do agree with Pastor Davis that it can be found there. The oft repeated promise that ALL of the nations of the earth would be blessed through Abraham's offspring (see Genesis 18:18, 22:18, 26:4) referred to Jesus Christ and the salvation that would be made available to EVERYONE through him. It does NOT refer to the tidbits and scraps that wealthy nations like Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the United States contribute to the other nations of the world through various foreign aid programs! Likewise, when God promised Jacob that he would make of his descendants "a great nation, even many nations" or in the words of the King James Version "a nation and a company of nations" (Genesis 35:11), it is absolutely ABSURD to suggest that he had the United States and Britain in mind! Indeed, if we are thinking in terms of salvation through Jesus Christ, it makes much more sense to believe that he was referring to Israel and all of the other Gentile nations of the world! Once again, it is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that spiritual promises be downgraded to physical ones!

The TRUTH is that Isaiah did preach the same Gospel that Jesus and Paul preached, but Adrian Davis didn't reference that passage in his message! In the fifty-third chapter of that book, we read: "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore, will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors." (Verses 1-12, KJV) THAT is the Gospel/Good News that Christ and his apostles brought to the world!

God chose the people of Israel to introduce himself to the rest of humanity - NOT to single them out for special treatment or status, or because they were somehow superior to the peoples of other nations (see Deuteronomy 7:7-9). God used Israel to demonstrate to other peoples the blessings which could result from serving him, and the terrible suffering that could result from his absence or wrath. In this connection, it is interesting to note that the entire Western world now has the Hebrew Bible, and that the WHOLE world has been exposed to it or its principles to one degree or another. Israel was a tool and a means to a much grander end! Moreover, God's Son, Jesus Christ, was born of the lineage of Abraham and David! And THAT is precisely how God fulfilled his promises to BOTH men!

After castigating the saints of Galatia for abandoning the Gospel of Christ (see Galatians 1:1-7), Paul wrote that "Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham." (Galatians 3:6-9) A little later, in the same chapter, he added: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ." (Verses 13-16) Later still, Paul concluded his thought with this famous statement: "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Verses 26-29)

In his remarks, Pastor Davis quoted from Christ's answer to his disciples' questions about the destruction of the temple, the sign of his return, and the timing of the end of the age. In the fourteenth verse of the twenty-fourth chapter of the Gospel of Matthew, we read that Christ told them that "this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Now, Mr. Davis made much of that English word "witness" (Greek "martyrion") which simply means testimony, and please notice that it would have to "be preached in ALL THE WORLD - UNTO ALL NATIONS! Unfortunately, Pastor Davis left out another important Scripture regarding the preaching of the Gospel. After completing his ministry on this earth, we are informed by the same Gospel (Matthew), which Mr. Davis referenced in his message, that Christ gave these final instructions to his disciples: "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach ALL nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." (Matthew 28:18-20)

In other words, the Gospel is ALL about Christ and his message (which focused on the salvation available through him)! The Gospel/Good News has NOTHING to do with a warning message to the English-speaking nations of the earth - NOTHING! It's just a suggestion, but may I humbly commend to Pastor Davis's attention Paul's warning to the saints of Galatia: "Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed." (Galatians 1:8-9, NLT) 

Lonnie Hendrix



Wednesday, January 11, 2023

"THIS IS A SICK HERESY"

 


While I am no fan of Vic Kubik considering how I watched his manipulative and underhand actions as he and others plotted to form the United Church of God while still working in the WCG, Kubik's LifeNets has certainly changed the lives of many for the better. To that, I give him kudos.

The above post on Facebook has deeply offended Samuel Kitchen. Check out his deeply rooted misogyny thanks to decades of it being practiced in the church. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with deemphasizing men, as Kitchen claims below.

This is appalling:


 


"Impowering the girl child".

What about the male child? What about the future FATHERS and MEN?
THIS IS A SICK HERESY. To emphasize "empowering women" is something Satan used on mother Eve.
Empower the men! The husband's the fathers! Strengthen them!
Woe unto those who call evil good and good evil. We cannot be teaching the things this world teach. Why must the post be used to empower "the girl child" why not empower "THE CHILDREN"? But the emphasis is to DE-EMPHASIZE THE MAN. That destroys families and is against the God ordained family unit!
That then is a bona-fide definite HERESY! REJECT IT AND THOSE WHO PROMOTE IT!

Tuesday, January 10, 2023

Kitchen Family Suffers Humiliating Setback In Jerusalem

 


Right before the Feast last year the Kitchen brothers headed off to Jerusalem with some other devotees they had gathered over the years. Using the Feast as a gathering point and expecting the imminent return of Christ they assumed they would be ready to present the words of Herbert Armstrong they had so religiously saved on their website. 

THE WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD is now gathering in Jerusalem to keep the FEASTS of God! Come join us. Stand counted with the Church who backed and supported Christ and His apostle, and has endured much persecution for THEIR LOVE OF THE TRUTH. You are not alone.
WELCOME BRETHREN! ASSEMBLE IN JERUSALEM. LET THE WORLD KNOW THAT THERE IS A PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEIR GOD AND HIS TRUTH!
In the service of Jesus Christ,
Samuel W Kitchen

We have requested all people who support Christ's apostle Mr. Herbert W Armstrong, and who are holding fast to that truth which was faithfully taught and handed to the Church through him by Christ, to come to Jerusalem and to keep the Feasts of the Lord. With world events as they are, this might be the only opportunity to come. Come let us serve God together! Come away from different sects and groups and come together as the Worldwide Church of God we all are called into!

Well, as any of us could have told them, that creature they call Christ was not returning. Those they went over with took off on their own to form their own new split. The Kitchens website had huge issues and a lot of HWA's teachings went down the circling drain.

They are now back at home and are trying to recover from their HUGE mistake as they struggle to reestablish themselves.

Here is what Timothy Kitchen Jr wrote:

December 21, 2022 at 7:18 PM 
We have seen it time and again.
One rising to the top and proclaiming himself the leader, proclaiming to do a work, all in the name of "God".
My Father taught my brothers and I, that one does not do that and BE God's chosen instrument in doing HIS, God's, Work.
We examined the various groups that followed the very pattern set by Satan the Devil, in his rebellion against God, and was taught how God operates according to what is written in God's Word, the Bible. This being the only true source of how God works.
The other day I listened to a sermon from the archives that addressed this issue of those leaving the church and starting their own brand with their funny little names etc. And how it mimicked Satan the Devil and His rebellion against God. He used "The Philadelphia Trumpet" as an example along with the many others though the years that rebelled against God and started their own brand name. There are thousands of various different groups each proclaiming to do "God's Work" yet never grasping what God's Work truly is!
We were warned time and again not to follow Satan's way of doing things. But sadly enough, some just don't "get it". Though some of us were taught from childhood in the way we should go, by faithful parents obeying God's commands in raising children.
I admit I, personally, had got off the right track. I prayed that God take me and do what He will after seeing the path I was on. Because I had enough of walking that way.
I made a choice to go overseas with my brother, because I didn't see too much over here. I felt that God moved me to leave, but it was not for the same reasons as some others had.
What happened over there was needed. I needed to see myself and others in how God sees us. Attitudes was made evident. The dross came to the top. Were we Philadelphia in attitude or not. And we as a group were not. It was apparent. It was a wakeup call for me and others.
A sifting was happening. Christ said to Peter that the Devil wanted to sift him like wheat. God's Church is to be sifted. In the book of Job, Job was sifted as well. God allowed it, for a reason. To test what we would choose. God, or our own way of doing things, the latter is exactly what Satan did!
Sadly those close to me chose to branch off and do their own thing. And because I chose to go with them overseas, the website was attacked. The hosting company we were using limited their storage capacity from unlimited to 50GB of storage while we were overseas and the website was deactivated because we exceeded the new limit. Right now I am working on getting it back online, God willing. And have only had doors opened where it was in line with God. God has been spending the last few months getting my life on track, and I have been off track when I put myself under someone else. (This reminds me of the time when Mr. Armstrong unintentionally put his son over the ministry, thus cutting them off from himself.)And when I get back on track with God in my own life, then the website or anything I put my heart to would be in line with God. God had to pull me from the fire so to speak and start over as a master to the steel.
The website is being worked on, and God willing, be back online soon. And this time it will be back in line with God. Satan has attacked God's Work over the years. And by human misguidance has fallen from time to time. I admit where I have stepped off track. And because of my error has opened the website to be shut down for the time being. But with God's help, as the Church in times past has done, get back up and move forward with God's help and power. I pray to do the same here in what time we have left. The time we have left is not for judging others, but to be a family. Yes, to use righteous discrimination concerning doctrine and what is being taught, and what comes into our homes and minds. To Hold fast to what we were given, that which is good in God's sight. To be True Philadelphians. In actions, not just words. To follow God not men.
If we read the words of Jesus Christ in Revelation 3:14 that Jesus Christ is THE AMEN, which means "The Truth"! Not just anyone's truth, GOD'S TRUTH! The Truth of God is what is being addressed here! The very truth revealed in this End Time, the true God, the Way of God, the Government of God, the faithful and true witness since the beginning of creation, which hasn't changed!(Mal 3:6; Heb 7:24, Heb 13:8)
We individually must apply God's law and Truth in our lives. To learn our history and not deny it, admit where we have got off the track, our error and change and move forward in what we have been given. To be living Truth as Jesus Christ is. Which is what will go on forever. Because Truth is the same yesterday, today and forever. Jesus Christ is that Truth, and it is from the Father through the Word of God through His Apostle. We are here to learn God's law and way of living, to develop the righteous character to be able to choose the right way forevermore! It starts at home, and this is where I'm starting. And with God's help move forward more boldly than before.
- Timothy Kitchen Jr