UPDATED: Bob Thiel: Jesus HATES the Super Bowl and it's Nearly Naked Cheerleaders!

Update:  

It is Super Bowl time and Bob Thiel had his annual meltdown. This year he is really perturbed that over 100,000,000 people will INTENTIONALLY tune to watch the game. Imagine that! INTENTIONALLY! What a bunch of backsliding Laodiceans!

This coming Sunday is known as “Super Bowl Sunday” in the USA. Most years, the American football (which is not the same as the sport called soccer in the USA) contest known as the Superbowl is the most watched television program in the USA. Over 100,000,000 are expected to intentionally (as opposed to perhaps seeing a news item about it) watch at least some of it this year according to various reports.

This year he has to drag in Apostle John who was against American Football, big time!

Tackle football fans WANT one team to repeatedly knock down players of the opposing team. They get a thrill and satisfaction from their team winning. 

 

But for many tackles to happen, one or more players often get, at least slightly, injured and sometimes permanently so. 

 

To encourage this as a fan and to be pleased when it happen simply is not good for Christians and is harmful for character development–including developing more of the love of God. 

 

The Apostle John was inspired to write, “he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also (1 John 4:20-21).

Encouraging and celebrating violent physical contact (tackling) is not showing love towards players.

He is also perturbed this year that regular Church of God members will watch the game. The horrors!

Tackle football is a lust of the flesh and eyes. Those who claim to be Christian and endorse it are letting the pride of life deceive them. 

 

How many who are in the COGs love the worldly sport of American tackle football and really do not care that it causes irreparable harm to its participants? Is it not another reason that some watch because of their lust for violence and/or for social acceptance? 

 

This is not what loving Christians should do.

The great prophet has determined that football will NOT be allowed in his kingdom to come.

Since American football games, like the Super Bowl, intentionally inflict various hurts, the following scripture supports the idea that American football will not be allowed in the Millennium:

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,

For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord

As the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:9, NKJV)

While “love does no harm to a neighbor” (Romans 13:9), what do sports like American football do? 

 

A while back, on the night before the Super Bowl, I saw portions of TBN’s Christian World News. Towards the end, they interviewed players on the teams in that scheduled Super Bowl game who professed Christ. The players, individually, basically stated that their faith was more important than winning the Super Bowl. But none said that they would renounce violence, not harm others, or not participate in the game because of its negative fruits.

 

 

Additionally, of the multitude of groups that profess Christ, it appears that only an actual or relative handful or so will tell their members that they should not be fans of American tackle football. Sometimes they will not denounce it because their leaders are fans, sometimes because they are afraid that they might lose members and/or money, and sometimes because of all of those reasons.

Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl? What about the Apostle Paul who warned against approving violence? The same Apostle Paul who said to imitate him as he imitated Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1). Would Jesus or the Apostle Paul watch the Superbowl as football fans rooting for one team to crush the other team?

“Perhaps,” some might answer. And still others may ridicule and/or dismiss what I have written. 

 

However, if Jesus Himself did watch the Super Bowl, would He watch it and hope that one team would tackle and crash into members of the other team? Or might He watch it, if He did, so He could make social commentary against the violence and/or distorted priorities of the land? 

 

Would Jesus take pleasure in humans damaging other humans for entertainment?

Bob Thiel presumes to speak for the guy that he claims to follow but can never talk about except when it comes to using him as a prop to promote a pet topic.

Thiel has been on the warpath against football for quite some time now.  He is particularly galled that today is Super Bowl Sunday and over 100,000,000 people may INTENTIONALLY watch it!

Thiel writes:

Today is known as “Super Bowl Sunday” in the USA. Most years, the American football (which is not the same as the sport called soccer in the USA) contest known as the Superbowl is the most watched television program in the USA. Between 100,000,000-200,000,000 are expected to intentionally (as opposed to perhaps seeing a news item about it) watch at least some of it today according to various reports.

Then in his next sentence, he has this to say:

Since most people in the USA have, at one time or another, made some hint of professing following Jesus, a relevant question may be:

Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl?

Lest we forget, in Thiel speak whenever he talks about "professing" followers of Jesus he is talking about the "SO-CALLED" harlot daughters of the Catholic church.  These unwashed UNCONVERTED masses are worthless fake Christians that follow Jesus instead of the law.   Whenever Thiel throws around the "so-called" and the "hint of professing" style Christians he is ultimately trying to tell you that there are REAL "professing" Christians and "called" ones.  Of course, the "called" ones can only be found in the Continuing Ed Church of God.

 Jesus only plays soccer!  Real CONVERTED Christians know that!

Thiel finds American football to be offensive because of the "violence" in it.  He writes:

After seeing the injuries that some of my high school football-playing colleagues suffered, I could not reconcile the scriptures with American football. There are better ways for Christians to learn principles like teamwork from other sports or activities than watching actual violence such occurs in American tackle football.

I think the root of the matter may lie deeper than the "violence" he wants to see.  Did Thiel really want to be on the football team but was ultimately too unfit for it?  That is the impression I have heard people had that were in LCG listening to his malarkey.  Was he rejected and therefore humiliated in front of his peers?  Many seem to think so.

Thiel then brings John the Baptist into the mix. Thiel cherishes his flesh too much to dare to play football:

Also, notice what John the Baptist taught soldiers:

14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. (Luke 3:14, KJV)

I could not reconcile loving my neighbor as myself and cherishing my flesh and not doing violence to any man by watching others do it in a football game. Nor the following:

9…You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. (Romans 13:9-10, NKJV)

 

Thiel then quotes Theophilus as the authority on refusing to watch football.  Because football is violent in Thiel's eyes he thinks it is comparable to Christians being martyred in the Forum or gladiators fighting to death.   What a moronic comparison.  Of course, Christians did not attend events where people fought to their death.  To compare football to that same kind of violence is stretching the point to absurdity.

The New Testament also warns Christians against being violent or approving of those that are (Romans 1:28-32), while history records that early Christians would not watch violent sports. Notice one such report from Theophilus of Antioch perhaps written about 180 A.D.:

Consider, therefore, whether those who teach such things can possibly live indifferently, and be commingled in unlawful intercourse, or, most impious of all, eat human flesh, especially when we are forbidden so much as to witness shows of gladiators, lest we become partakers and abettors of murders. But neither may we see the other spectacles, lest our eyes and ears be defiled,

Then, Thiel just sinks further into his madness.  Football is EVIL and so are the cheerleaders!

Since I do not actually watch American football, I do not know how many violent acts are likely at today’s Super Bowl, but the number is likely to be very high, and maybe even a lot more if thoughts of violence are included (cf. Matthew 5:21-22).

In my view, the tackle version of the sport of American football is evil (touch football I would not consider to be inherently evil–though attitude is still a possible factor there). Also, no Christian can really defend how professional football cheerleading females are publicly dressed and displayed–and presumably some of how they will be displayed at today’s Super Bowl game.

In the world Thiel is going to be King and Ruler over as God, he is not going to allow American football to be played.

Since American football games, like the Super Bowl, intentionally inflict various hurts, the following scripture supports the idea that American football will not be allowed in the Millennium:

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:9, NKJV)

Thiel concludes with this.  When you look at it, it really makes sense to a follower of Armstrongism.  The Jesus they think the world knows is this weak, effeminate, pussy-boy who is too delicate to play tackle football. 

Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl?  What about the Apostle Paul who warned against approving violence?  The same Apostle Paul who said to imitate him as he imitated Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1).  Would Jesus or the Apostle Paul watch the Superbowl as football fans routing for one team to crush the other team?

Perhaps, some might say. And some may ridicule and/or dismiss what I have written.
If Jesus Himself did watch the Super Bowl, would He watch it and hope that one team would tackle and crash into members of the other team? Or might He watch it, if He did, so He could make social commentary against the violence and/or distorted priorities.

Say what??????????  Jesus is now a sports commentator?????

Thiel needs to stop making such a fool out of himself with these worthless and idiotic promotions of personal opinion.  Armstrongism is based purely upon personal opinion instead of having anything to do with Jesus or reality. 

Even Jesus appreciates a well-played touchdown!

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Dave Pack the Addict: When Prophecy Becomes A Drug

 

My Heroin

                 

With so many balls juggling in the air, it is difficult to keep track of all the wild claims and screaming failures that drop at the feet of David C. Pack.

 

The people of The Restored Church of God experienced two prophetic disappointments this week: Tuesday, February 7, and Friday, February 10. This is by no means close to a record, but it is still notable.

 

Three and a half days of punishment did not begin on Tuesday, culminating with the return of Jesus Christ and the start of the Kingdom of God at sunset Friday night.

 

Interestingly, David C. Pack never addressed the 40-day count to Abib 1 dissolving, the absence of Elijah rising on the world stage, or the Kingdom of God Sabbath no-show. It was as if he had never said it.

 

“The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 418)” Thursday proved the Bible translators know how to take a beating. They were resurrected so Dave could sucker punch them again and toss them back into their graves until the next time. There will be a next time.

 

They are not the only ones Ragin’ Dave tends to get violent with.

 

Logic has bruises on her arms and neck while the Truth is buried in the backyard under the wood pile. Accountability is locked in the closet with an empty water bowl and a leg chain. Reason is sealed in a box in the attic with only a tiny breathing hole. Mushrooms grow on the corpse of Integrity in the basement corner. Meanwhile, the brethren pay Dave to vomit nonsense on them while they sit motionless and quiet.

 

The filthiness going on inside The Restored Church of God is graphic.

 

Logic, truth, accountability, reason, and integrity are the innocent victims of David C. Pack.

 

The real tragedy is that the brethren can take action but choose not to. Instead, they endure while waiting to see what God will do. Just like the Sabbath-keepers still attending Grace Communion International. They take it and wait.

 

 

The skimmers will enjoy the highlights of Part 418:

 

·      Everything is still on track.

·      Words are Dave’s heroin.

·      After years of “rushing,” he is now supposed to “stretch out” the Series.

·      He never understood what “nourish” meant.

·      Daniel's three and a half days are not the same as in Revelation.

·      There is a new date, but he refuses to say it.

·      Part 419 is next week.

 

The first seven minutes of Part 418 encapsulate everything wrong with David C. Pack and The Restored Church of God.

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 00:03 Well, I told you last time there was nothing else to cover, no other message. And now, you know, God can surprise all of us with a whole message.

 

Wow. His first sentence tells you that trusting him is a fool’s errand. David C. Pack is not a man of his word. He admitted that immediately when he opened his mouth.

 

His second sentence drapes the cloak of biblical fraud over God’s shoulders. And he does it without fear.

 

Listen to the man and hear his words, brethren of God.

 

In his first sentence of Part 418, David C. Pack tells you not to believe him.

 

In his second sentence of Part 418, David C. Pack tells you not to believe his god.

 

Soak that in. The first two sentences. Do not trust him. Do not trust his god. Hear him.

 

 

Over the years, David C. Pack has invoked God's name to spin a later proven false yarn. The True God does not inspire lies and deception. The Spirit of Error is all about that.

 

This is Dave’s god, not mine.

 

Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 37:31 I was haunted, we'll say, by God's Spirit guiding me. Now, haunted is a bad word, but troubled. Just uncomfortable. Unsettled…

 

Did you mean vexed like King Saul?

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 00:25 We’ve seen God slowly draw us forward. He’s constantly laying out more track.

 

His god loves to string the brethren along, teasing them with the carrot on the stick tied to their belt so they will never get closer.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 1:39:30 These dates are set, and I will say before God they can only change if the Bible can change. You cannot argue with “midst of the years.” You cannot argue with the Day of the Lord. And you cannot argue with the sheer massive proof I’m gonna lay on you next time that Elijah rises before February 10^th.

 

The Bible must have changed. Elijah did not rise before last night, and Dave never finished his list of proofs because he realized mid-jump he was full of malarkey. He never recanted this, either. He just kind of stopped talking about it. Like a politician would do.

 

Part 415 – January 17, 2023

@ 32:04 God, in His mercy, gave us Abib 1 and 40 days in front of it.

 

This is about the 40 days that failed to start last night. The only logical conclusion is that God did not give this. But Dave cannot see that. He refuses to see that. Why do the brethren also refuse?

 

Part 417 – February 2, 2023

@ 43:01 I’ve had an opportunity just to let God show me these final things that I need to see.

 

Tuesday failed. Friday night failed. Not at all final. More dropped balls at David C. Pack's feet, but God is credited with being the One who tossed them into his hands.

 

That addresses the first two sentences of Part 418.

 

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 00:18 But we're still fine, brethren. Everything is still on track. I love to open saying that, knowing that it's true, but with more time than we thought.

 

That is not true. The insults begin early. Each time Dave faces an obvious failure, he looks in the mirror and repeats that it is still fine. Because repeating something makes it true.

 

He "loves" saying that? The fact he repeats "still on track" should be a red flag for those paying attention. 

 

Nothing burned me more while sitting in the Main Hall than hearing Dave smile about how “on track” everything was when it was clearly not true. That is gaslighting. That is denial. That is a lie.

 

He preaches the Kingdom of God will come. Then it does not. He reassures everyone how on track they still are. Rinse and repeat.

 

Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 08:13 We're still on time. Believe me, more than you could ever know. Everything's still fine. Absolutely. Absolutely. More than I could have ever believed, God could tell us in this most-exciting sermon conclusion.

 

How is any part of that even remotely true? That is a trick question. None of it was true. NONE of it.

 

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 00:28 Some new things can be explained, and some old ones can be clarified.

 

“Clarified” is code for glossing over mistakes. Folks in RCG are well-versed in what “clarify” really means.

 

@ 00:52 But recall from my last message that my hope and prayer, and I think yours, was answered. You now know the days [of punishment] are less.

 

This is a lie. No prayer was answered.

 

Whether every human being on the earth prayed or every human being on the earth did not pray, the result was always going to be the same: NOTHING.

 

This is a veiled "God gave us more time" lie by David C. Pack. The collective RCG "prayer" was that the time of punishment would be shorter. Not for the dates to fail.

 

And fail, they did. But hey, that is not Dave’s fault. No, God answered a prayer and changed the timing on everyone. The man is such a coward.

 

This is putting a deceitful, positive spin on prophetic error. Dave again throws his blunder into God's hands as if he correctly taught the dates, but God changed His mind and altered His plan at the last second.

 

Who is Dave fooling? Maybe himself more than those listening to this nonsense.

 

Thus far, we are only inside the first minute of Part 418 with 91 more to go. There are serious problems inside The Restored Church of God.

 

@ 01:05 So, thirteen and a half days plus a month was wrong, as I had thought.

 

Hold on. Was it an answered prayer, or was he just wrong? How can it be both?

 

This was the very next sentence. Were the brethren of The Restored Church of God and David C. Pack actually praying that David C. Pack was wrong? And he was wrong, so therefore, their prayers were answered?

 

That sounds insane. And yet, that seems to be what he is saying. The war in his mind from one sentence to the next is astonishing to witness.

 

No one needs to pray for David C. Pack to be wrong. He just is by default.

 

 

I would never be able to get away with making this kind of thing up.

@ 01:34 As you've learned, this has been a word study. Words matter. And I'm the son of a wordsmith, so I love words. I can't get enough of them. Some people like heroin. I don't. I've never tried it and don't intend, but I love words. They are, I guess, my heroin.

 

What an odd, goofy, and bizarre thing for a minister to say at the lectern to a church. Maybe he was advised not to say, “Words are my porn.” Heroin was a less-awkward parallel.

 

The “David C. Pack: Heroin User” analogies write themselves.

 

He may love words, but he sure does not understand them. He is so doped up he cannot comprehend what he reads. He opens his mouth, and gibberish comes out. He is so high that he sees things in the Bible that are not there, like that he is Elijah.

 

Rather than words, David C. Pack is addicted to prophecy. He is a junkie in that respect. He ignores reality to satisfy his habit. He needs his fix so bad he makes others give up their retirement accounts and inheritances just so he can keep riding that wave.

 

I look forward to reading the comments you creative folks will make about David C. Pack being a drug addict.

 

I never dreamed I would be able to make this statement: There is more than Reefer Madness going on at The Restored Church of God. We have barely scratched the surface of Part 418.

Marc Cebrian

See: My Heroin