What a glorious day to be alive in sunny California. Cloudless skies, warm temperatures, beautiful green hills towering over Pasadena, wild parrots joyfully screeching as they fly about, children playing in the park, and an elderly couple cuddling on a bench. This beautiful scene was disrupted by the screeching and whining from Grover Beach /Arroyo Grande CA where God's most IMPORTANT prophet to ever exist in the history of humanity got a major wedgie over the post here yesterday about his epic failure as a prophet.
The Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians had this as his headline:
Has Bob Thiel been prophetically wrong for the past 12 years as reported by Gary Leonard of ‘Banned by HWA’?
Someone needs a diaper change and it's not me! This is too funny!
God's Greatest prophet writes:
Although Gray Leonard, the webmaster at the Banned by HWA , has never me nor even spoken with me, he regularly posts insults, sarcasm, and improper information about me as he hates leaders related to the Church of God. On rare occasion, I will bother to refute some of his posts. This will be one of those times, basically to set the record straight for people interested in the truth.
Oh, Bobby, I can see why so many in Africa make fun of you. I don't hate any Church of God leader and never have. I don't even hate you, though I do feel sorry for you that you have never received therapy for your delusions of grandeur. What I do hate is the lying self-appointed Church of God false prophets and self-appointed leaders who distort the gospel and lie to their followers with damnable heresies and half-truths. God no more appointed you than Gerald Flurry has the new coronation stone. Mental illness is rampant in many of today's Church of God leaders and most COG folk recognize that in you and the other nutjobs like Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Ron Weinland.
The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu then goes on to copy and paste the entire blog post from yesterday, paying particular notice to the list of years I posted where he was wrong.
Gary Leonard saying that I was wrong about each of those years is not the truth.
Jesus said:
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:11-12)
So yes, Gary Leonard, Jesus said I am blessed when you post all kinds of insults, evil, and false things about me.
Oh, honey, I hate to say this, but Jesus is NOT talking about you in that scripture. This is what Scripture says about you:
Matthew 24:3-8
3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately,saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” 4 And Jesus answered them, “See that noone leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors ofwars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is notyet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, andthere will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are but thebeginning of the birth pains.
Matthew 7:15
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
This is what Jesus says about you:
Matthew 23: 1-29
1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.
3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacterieswide and the tassels on their garments long;
6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers.
9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.
11 The greatest among you will be your servant.
12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’
17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’
19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.
23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.
28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
The Great Bwana took major exception to Tonto's comment:
On January 28, 2020,someone who calls himself “Tonto” posted posted the following related to me and the coronavirus at the anti-COG site Banned by HWA :Tonto said…If Thiel was such a great prophet, then why didn’t he specifically and directly warn the world about this coronavirus several weeks ago?
Then the Great Bwana goes on to post lots of "proofs" of how accurate he is till he gets to this:
Many of those at the Banned by HWA website despise prophecies and do not believe the prophets–do not be like them!
I don't think anyone here despises prophecies and real prophets, but in Armstrongism our track record of having real prophets so far has been a big fat
That said, another commenter at the Banned by HWA website, posted the following related to Gary Leonard’s post related to the 24 items to prophetically watch in 2024:
10. Knowledge IncreasingNot in CCOG!Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 6:03:00 PM PST
That is also a lie.
Now getting back to Banned by HWA, one of the other Satanic tactics it has repeatedly done at its website is to use the “guilt by association” game. This is an old Satanic tactic that was done on more than one occasion against Jesus by some of those who rejected Him (e.g. Luke 5:30, 15:2). The Bible teaches that Satan is the accuser of the brethren (Revelation 12:9-10), and we have seen his allies do the same.
The Bible teaches:
16 The lazy man is wiser in his own eyesThan seven men who can answer sensibly. (Proverbs 26:15)
Do not simply accept nonsense and other anti-CCOG statements posted at places like the Banned by HWA webmaster.
How is it "guilt by association" when you are compared to all of the other liars in Armstrongism? God never appointed you. That is a simple fact. Just because you claim to be the "fastest growing Church of God" does not make it true. Paul speaks a lot about false prophets and false teachers entering the church boasting and performing signs and wonders:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 — American Standard Version (ASV)
9 even he, whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Any COG leader who spends 90% of the time boasting about how great he is and how great his little group is is NOT an agent of the Gospel. In fact, you blaspheme the real Gospel and the one it describes when you whore yourself out to the law and the Old Covenant. It doesn't matter how many Biblical mantles you take on claiming you are just like the prophets of old. You are not. Never have been, and never will be.
Jer. 5:30, 31 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land: The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means.
Jer. 14:14) Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in My name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake I unto them; they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought and the deceit of their heart.
Jer. 23:14,16 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies; they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness; they are all of them unto Me as Sodom. . . . Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you, they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
Ezek. 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls, they have taken the treasure and precious things, they have made her many widows.
Why does Bob consistently come out looking like a blithering idiot when he does this?
ReplyDeleteHe's doing what comes naturally!
DeleteGray Leonard
ReplyDeleteHe can't even prophesy Gary's name correctly!
I cannot blame Bob for being upset considering all the twisted comments made about him. Despite his faults, he might be more principled than his critics. Although equally misguided.
ReplyDeletehe might be more principled than his critics
ReplyDeleteDon't you remember how Bob handled the revelation of the truth behind his Indian diploma mill Th.D.? Not principled.
More recently, look at Bob's pig-headed persistence in purchasing AI-driven translations of his book from a company that falsely advertises real human translators as its employees. Real human translators are being deprived of business despite their names being used, but Bob doesn't care. Not principled.
Bob doesn't act like a man who cares about the truth. He has become everything he denounced Rod Meredith for being.
Problem with Thiel is he's truly buried in a Witch Doctors back yard in Africa; why do I say this; Thiel believes the most stupid excuses and is blind beyond reason Example Bradox Ocheing, Evans Ocheings son is a Deacon in the CCOG under his Father/ Bradox ran in the 2017 election as an MCA for a ward or district/ the Ochiengs never came forward with this information; huge amounts of money were spent on this election, only income the Ochiengs had was Church funds Bob Thiel sent them/ a Minister in United Church of God tipped off Alexsander Veljic of this scenario/ all Bob Thiel did was five a slap on the wrist no questions asked/ if this was any normal Church of God, The Ochiengs would have been fired pronto/ Fast Forward to 2022, same scenario, Bradox Ran again, but this time Bradox Denied he ran in the Election, he only said he was working for another candidate/ this was and is a blatant lie/ if you look online it's all in the Kenya election Documents,, it even tells how many votes Bradox received and also shows that he tried to overturn the election/ But instead of accepting Reality Bob Thiel accepts the lie some Elderly Gentleman from some village told him; the Man said It is not true Bradox Ocheing did not run the 2022 election; Seriously folks Bob Thiel is on record for passing this BS as truth. Another Mind Cursed example/ there's a picture of a woman laying in Radson Mulozowa lap and Radson Mulozowa is cupping her Breasts/ this woman is the New wife of Radsons, which Bob says Radson
ReplyDeletedoesn't have new wife /but when I presented evidence of this picture to Bob , he accepts the lie that this is Radsons cousin and is a normal cousin embrace/ Bob Thiel either is Witch Doctor cursed or is covering up his Ministers Sex capades/ Bob Thiel, if your reading this, have the family jewels to at least admit these are your official statements, I personally don't think you will, cause deep down you know I'm right on everything I've said in the last year plus, you can't handle the truth, Soon the Jig will be up Folks, problem is Bob Thiel continues to pump Gods Tithe money to his corrupt Ministers in Hiring Lawyers to cover up his Satanic African Shim/Sham Sand Dance. One Day soon this Crap will hit the Fan , and It will stick to Dr Bob marking him as the leader of the most corrupt Church of God that ever Existed
Hey I wonder why Bobster never mentions Bradox ever anymore? The once semi-prominent son of "an evangelist" over there...now shelved into obscurity after dabbling in "this world's" elections as a candidate. (or later "framed" as a candidate)
DeleteBut Bob sure does shove "pastor Radson" at us in weekly news reports.
Why can't Bob tell the difference between pics of a Radson's female "cousin" & a Radson new wife? Do they all "look the same" to Bob...
And don't forget his African fiasco!
ReplyDelete"During the Feast of Tabernacles in October 2009, an odd feeling came over me that pointed to looking to see if the beginning of sorrows may have began." - Bob Thiel on his website, referring to a "possible divine intervention".
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Uh, odd indeed. Weird. The beginning of sorrows was in the first century AD - Mat 24.
I don't remember Biblical prophets salting their commentary with so much "it may be" and "possibly" and "perhaps" as Bob does. You can get that on the news channels already.
ReplyDeleteI for one don't hate Bob. I just believe he ought to find himself another hobby.
ReplyDeleteBoy, what a difference between him and our old buddy Ian Boyne! Ian really set some high standards for himself and his ministry! He had a more confident intellect, was not always on the attack, and did listen to and consider views which differed from his own. The fact that he genuinely liked other people, and wanted the best for them always came through.
It's difficult to understand what would produce a personality like Bob's. I don't think it is all due to Armstrongism or Rod Meredith. There had to have been trauma, or multiple traumas which go beyond that.
"More principled than his critics" does not mean "principled."
ReplyDeleteGet it?
"It's difficult to understand what would produce a personality like Bob's. I don't think it is all due to Armstrongism or Rod Meredith. There had to have been trauma, or multiple traumas which go beyond that."
ReplyDeleteBob did not have the best relationship with his father. Trying to constantly impress his father did not work. Joining the military did not work. It is telling that Bob never mentions his parents in any of his stories. When he was in LCG he never had much good to say about either of them. That was a red flag we noticed early on.
"More principled than his critics" does not mean "principled."
ReplyDeleteGet it?
Yes, I get that you are comfortable slandering Bob's critics, despite their principled critiques of Bob's deceitfulness, and despite their not claiming to be spiritual leaders like Bob. It is far more principled to be an honest sinner than a fake holy man.
Bob did not have the best relationship with his father. Trying to constantly impress his father did not work. Joining the military did not work. It is telling that Bob never mentions his parents in any of his stories. When he was in LCG he never had much good to say about either of them. That was a red flag we noticed early on.
ReplyDeleteBob believes that Christians are obligated to keep the Ten Commandments. Yet Bob not only has dramatically obvious problems with bearing false witness, he also comes up short in honoring his father and mother. Some prophet.
I mean, just for example, can you imagine Isaiah's famous "prophecy" being rendered as "It may be possible that perhaps a virgin might possibly conceive"?
ReplyDeleteNO2 has an obsession. Still on your fetish? Hahaha.
ReplyDeleteBANNED CULTURAL APPRECIATION TIME! A POEM READING BY TONTO!
ReplyDeleteIn Arroyo Grande, a prophet appears,
Bobby Thiel, with dubious cheers.
A phony sage, in religious guise,
With potions and herbs, he peddles his lies.
A hundred followers, all Caucasian and meek,
In his mystical garden, where delusions peak.
He claims divine visions, a charlatan's play,
In the land of sunshine, where shadows betray.
Oh, Bobby Thiel, the preacher so sly,
Selling Christian voodoo, oh my, oh my!
His potions and herbs, a dubious blend,
To cure your ills, or so they pretend.
In the heart of California, he weaves his spell,
A prophet with a story, too absurd to tell.
His white-clad flock, like sheep in the pen,
Following blindly, again and again.
"Buy my elixirs," he declares with zeal,
Promising miracles, a snake oil ordeal.
With a wink and a grin, he counts his gold,
As the gullible masses, in ignorance, hold.
Bobby Thiel, the master of disguise,
In Arroyo Grande, where skepticism dies.
A satire of faith, a parody profound,
In the circus of belief, he wears the crown.
So here's to Bobby, the prophet bizarre,
With his potions and voodoo, a spectacle so far.
A hundred followers, lost in the haze,
In the land of sunshine, where reason decays.
You lied in the very first sentence. No wild parrots are flying around Pasadena! More proof what a deceitful man you are!
ReplyDeleteWell Buttercup, I hate to bust your little bubble, but here ya go....
ReplyDeletehttps://www.johnhartrealestate.com/blog/2023/04/pasadena-parrots/
https://www.lafieldguide.com/p/the-pasadena-parrots
https://www.laaudubon.org/blog/2021/3/16/wild-parrots-aplenty-in-pasadena
https://laist.com/news/pasadenas-parrots-are-annoying-af-but-may-save-their-species-from-extinction
https://lamag.com/news/why-parrots-pasadena
Here is even a video
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymEWmqyu_U8
That's giving him the bird, NO2HWA!
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